DUST Search - Enough already, CCP

Void Echo wrote:

davis fritz wrote:

howard sanchez wrote:

Enough with the silent treatment.

Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service.

The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency.

What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout?

What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?!

This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that?

Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities:

1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid

2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass

Just talk to us

The future of Dust is tied to Valkyrie. Just so everyone knows. Valkyrie is one of a small handful of games being released with the PS4 Morpheus( Sony's version of the Occultist Rift) Based on it's success, that will determine the fate of Dust 514. Release should be around mid to late November. That's why Dust has a nothing much more than a skeleton crew keeping it going. A no brainer for those still logging in on a regular basis. CCP's resources are lying with EVE and Valkyrie at the moment. The wait and see game continues....

If ccp treats the valkyrie players like they treated us, it won't make a difference

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howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:32:00 - [1] - Quote Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:33:00 - [2] - Quote I don't know what the question is, but the answer is to buy more aurum. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote For Legion now DUST itself. At least we get more skins! AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 6	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:40:00 - [4] - Quote Demanding someone tell you something that runs counter to their interests seldom produces effective results. Option 2 is the more likely option, because if they had anything to show for the last year they would have leaked something by now. Player counts are down a lot in EvE, I doubt there is a lot of space in budgets to throw good money after bad with the track record Shanghai has currently. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:46:00 - [5] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid This I could have actually believed 1 - 6 months after the Legion announcement. Let the playerbase simmer in this new idea of a PC port. Let the hype start to ramp up then begin earnest discussion with the playerbase about the future of the game off the PS3. But it hasn't been 1 - 6 months. It has been over. a. *****. year. This is laughably bush league. CCP Shanghai is taking what little respect they have earned from us with hotfix alpha - Warlords 1.2 then dropping a twosy on it. howard sanchez wrote: 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass You want to know what is really funny? If CCP had the stones to announce they were not considering a port until X date at the earliest they would probably improve their relations with us x5 over. At least they are discussing the future of this game, even if it is stuck on this last gen console. howard sanchez wrote: Just talk to us "No." - CCP Shanghai, September 2015. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley** on Skype!
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:48:00 - [6] - Quote Press, thank you for the reply I am concerned that you could be right regarding the more likely scenario that news is not good and ccp don't want to spook the herd before they harvest all the can. But I must respectfully disagree that silence is in CCP's best interest. Unless our worst fears are true and Ratatti & Co are remaining mute in order to dupe all of us into spending more $ on a dead game, then silence is NOT the best policy So, which is it ccp?
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.08 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley - I completely agree with your view that, if ccp were to be open and honest, dust's playerbase would accept, adapt and embrace what ever direction they were pointing. The only thing we hate more than bad game development is no game development which is what they are 'announcing' through silence.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 352	Posted - 2015.09.08 14:01:00 - [8] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us After the Events of the Rogue Wedding CCP will never again make the mistake of trusting the future to us. A port was in the works but it got scrapped cuz of your bitching. You and I are S.O.L. \0/
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.08 14:06:00 - [9] - Quote Seriously Killz? You would blame that debacle of product 'promotion' and information marketing on the Players?! Who else believes that nonsense? Because that's a bunch of crap right there fella Our bitching has brought us where we are and you think we deserve this? Way to be a compliant *****! Enough already, ccp Just talk to us
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 952	Posted - 2015.09.08 16:19:00 - [10] - Quote 1. calm down 2. check the 1st page of general discussion 3. scroll down and find rattatis' thread 4. keep calm 5. calmly respond to that thread 6. lose your mind

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.09.08 16:20:00 - [11] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: 1. calm down 2. check the 1st page of general discussion 3. scroll down and find rattatis' thread 4. keep calm 5. calmly respond to that thread 6. lose your mind I like that CCP is wanting feedback for the next hotfix. Really. It's good. What it doesn't address is the mid-to-long term future of this game. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Press Attache The Office of The Attorney General 7	Posted - 2015.09.08 17:22:00 - [12] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I like that CCP is wanting feedback for the next hotfix. Really. It's good. What it doesn't address is the mid-to-long term future of this game. It's a numbers in a db hotfix, no improvements to the litany of the games problems. When a balance pass is some sort of big deal, you know a port isn't even on the table anymore. Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.09.08 18:23:00 - [13] - Quote I can't help but feel that there might be something, eventually..... but I can't be certain that this isn't just wishful thinking. That being said I play this game with the thoughts that - A. The game is basically AS IS. B. I accept most problems this game has now as it has been so damn long. (Minus the framerate / lag issues as these NEED fixing really badly) C. If I spend money on this game it is because I like this game right now, not tomorrow or next year. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.09.08 20:06:00 - [14] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us After the Events of the Rogue Wedding CCP will never again make the mistake of trusting the future to us. A port was in the works but it got scrapped cuz of your bitching. You and I are S.O.L. Welp, you get a cookie and a ribbon for not being r-tarded Its not that your ideas are bad, its just they dont fit within the realm of possible at CCP Shanghai.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.08 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote From all outside appearances it would seem that CCP is currently 100% invested in VR. I feel like 3 studios on 3 continents all doing VR stuff sends a pretty clear message what their future plans are. For all we know their 4th studio may be working on VR as well, CCP does not like to divulge what the Eve guys are doing to avoid fits of rage like burn jita. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
StoneSmasher Drugga Corrosive Synergy No Context 130	Posted - 2015.09.08 22:06:00 - [16] - Quote Spending money on the game is no different than buying a movie ticket. Do you refuse to see movies if sequels are not announced? I would like to know future plans also, but all games die in the long run. There is no evil greater than hyperbole.
4lbert Wesker Standby Retaliation 464	Posted - 2015.09.08 22:24:00 - [17] - Quote Please,no more questions about Legion,each time someone asks about Legion we get new skin WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 01:43:00 - [18] - Quote They are wanting feedback about a hotfix, this means they are attempting to keep dust afloat for now. Maybe trying to get it as optimal as they can before they do port it. Also kills, that's complete bs, blaming it on the players. How about blaming it on the company that kept making promises to its console players for months to years about the future of dust on ps3 and how we were being introduced to new eden as a new mercenary equal to pilots then all of a sudden we are shown that in reality ccp lied to us and got us to spend $100s on a dead game to fund a port to pc which over 50% of the player base would never have access to. That's the reason that fanfest was a big **** in our face, because ccp basically lied and tricked us unto funding a game on another platform that most of us wouldn't be on. You cannot blame that on the players. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
davis fritz Subsonic Synthesis 80	Posted - 2015.09.09 01:54:00 - [19] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us The future of Dust is tied to Valkyrie. Just so everyone knows. Valkyrie is one of a small handful of games being released with the PS4 Morpheus( Sony's version of the Occultist Rift) Based on it's success, that will determine the fate of Dust 514. Release should be around mid to late November. That's why Dust has a nothing much more than a skeleton crew keeping it going. A no brainer for those still logging in on a regular basis. CCP's resources are lying with EVE and Valkyrie at the moment. The wait and see game continues.... I fucking Love/Hate this game
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:16:00 - [20] - Quote davis fritz wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us The future of Dust is tied to Valkyrie. Just so everyone knows. Valkyrie is one of a small handful of games being released with the PS4 Morpheus( Sony's version of the Occultist Rift) Based on it's success, that will determine the fate of Dust 514. Release should be around mid to late November. That's why Dust has a nothing much more than a skeleton crew keeping it going. A no brainer for those still logging in on a regular basis. CCP's resources are lying with EVE and Valkyrie at the moment. The wait and see game continues.... If ccp treats the valkyrie players like they treated us, it won't make a difference Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.

davis fritz Subsonic Synthesis 80	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:21:00 - [21] - Quote Void Echo wrote: davis fritz wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us The future of Dust is tied to Valkyrie. Just so everyone knows. Valkyrie is one of a small handful of games being released with the PS4 Morpheus( Sony's version of the Occultist Rift) Based on it's success, that will determine the fate of Dust 514. Release should be around mid to late November. That's why Dust has a nothing much more than a skeleton crew keeping it going. A no brainer for those still logging in on a regular basis. CCP's resources are lying with EVE and Valkyrie at the moment. The wait and see game continues.... If ccp treats the valkyrie players like they treated us, it won't make a difference Just be patient I fucking Love/Hate this game
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:27:00 - [22] - Quote I been patient for 4 ******* years Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:32:00 - [23] - Quote A few quick points - Thank you for your interest and feedback in this thread. It's good to understand where the players stand on this issue. Yes, I see what Ratatti is doing over there moving his hands about making words about hotfixes. You sheep that eat that stuff are all increasing his Jedi Mind Trick skill by multiples of 5. Fools. He's doing exactly what he's told to do - not say a damn word about a port. DUST, as it is right now, is great. More balanced and fun than ever. I know how much Ratatti and Shanghai love this game because it is his team that have brought us to this place. But you can't hotfix away the lag/framerate/performance issues can you? Because DUST runs great when its not running on a PS3. The platform IS THE PROBLEM with DUST. So, thank you, Ratatti for that momentary distraction. I will play this game as long as it runs - wherever it runs....but it won't run as long as I want to play it on this platform. Yes, CCP is committed to VR. That's great - they should be. But VR, right now, isn't profitable. It's not tested and true yet. It has promise, potential. But hasn't made a dollar yet. DUST, on the other hand, by CCP's admission - is profitable. Businesses do not throw away profit. So, I believe, (with all of my wisdom and insight) that DUST will be ported (if it can remain profitable through such a transition). I want to know how long I will be able to play. I want to hear confirmation of my musings or the hard reality that this is where we live and die. Stop, Master Ratatti, I can see what you do there.
davis fritz Subsonic Synthesis 80	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:34:00 - [24] - Quote Void Echo wrote: I been patient for 4 ***** years Than you can handle a few more months. Geeze, get the sand out of your *** I fucking Love/Hate this game
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:37:00 - [25] - Quote davis fritz wrote: Void Echo wrote: I been patient for 4 ***** years Than you can handle a few more months. Geeze, get the sand out of your *** I can't help it, I'm on my yearly mood swing Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
davis fritz Subsonic Synthesis 80	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:38:00 - [26] - Quote Void Echo wrote: davis fritz wrote: Void Echo wrote: I been patient for 4 ***** years Than you can handle a few more months. Geeze, get the sand out of your *** I can't help it, I'm on my yearly mood swing I feel ya. I'm impatient too. I fucking Love/Hate this game
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.09 02:39:00 - [27] - Quote I usually sit quietly as well. But sometimes the frustration and impatience builds up so much pressure that posts spurt outta me and mess up the forums!
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. 7	Posted - 2015.09.09 03:02:00 - [28] - Quote Sadly, the silence means the announcement of Dust's fate would be more damaging. If the announcement would be good news it would mean a boost in player counts, purchases, etc. Sooooo... Seriously, port it. Hurry
howard sanchez Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.09 03:18:00 - [29] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Sadly, the silence means the announcement of Dust's fate would be more damaging. If the announcement would be good news it would mean a boost in player counts, purchases, etc. Sooooo... Thor, WTF?! You build me up over there and extinguish my hopes and dreams over here! See Ratatti? See Hilmar!? This is what it comes to. If I have hope in DUST I will engender content, play, PAY If I have no hope in DUST....I will persist but not flourish. I will play but not pay. And I will not build content and encourage participation. Your choice.
Starlight Burner Black Screen Adaptation. 494	Posted - 2015.09.09 16:00:00 - [30] - Quote Press Attache wrote: When a balance pass is some sort of big deal, you know a port isn't even on the table anymore. Sad but quite true at the moment, with current situations. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST

Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. 7	Posted - 2015.09.09 16:34:00 - [31] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Sadly, the silence means the announcement of Dust's fate would be more damaging. If the announcement would be good news it would mean a boost in player counts, purchases, etc. Sooooo... Thor, WTF?! You build me up over there and extinguish my hopes and dreams over here! See Ratatti? See Hilmar!? This is what it comes to. If I have hope in DUST I will engender content, play, PAY If I have no hope in DUST....I will persist but not flourish. I will play but not pay. And I will not build content and encourage participation. Your choice. It is what it is, I continue to play because I still love the game. There's no way a logical person could conclude that silence is anything but a bad sign. Seriously, port it. Hurry
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 977	Posted - 2015.09.09 16:52:00 - [32] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Enough with the silent treatment. Weeks have gone by with essentially no communication about the current state and future direction of this game/service. The playerbase pleads with you daily and we suffer unexplained down times and poor system performance with increasing frequency. What is the purpose of this obviously intentional information blackout? What could you possibly be avoiding speaking about with the small but intensely loyal customer base that waits for some word of our fate?! This all smacks of management putting a gag order on regarding what we can expect in the near future. And why would you need to do that? Let's consider the two most impactful possibilities: 1) you are porting DUST to another system and you don't want the info leaked before management is 'ready' - meaning your marketeers think this is a good idea for future growth through marketing- stupid 2) you are not porting DUST and want to use the remaining months of confusion and anticipation in your customers to extract more dollars before shuttering this game - skin bundles my ass Just talk to us Firstly, they aren't really being all that quiet. You, and the rest of the community, should know by now if CCP is developing a new idea or project we won't hear of it until it's pretty much ready to be shown. i admit it's a bad practice, but it gives CCP wiggle room and freedom to do what they want without our magnifying glass on them. So wether or not they're going to PS4 with Dust, porting Legion instead and finally ending Dust, or plenty of other options available to them, we won't know till it's 3 months away from open beta. They speak often and what they do here, and joke with us on the forums almost once a day. I'm almost dead certain Legion is coming to PS4, because CCP was pretty opened mouthed about the PC port of Legion until community back-lash went hostile. Las Vegas, which was supposed to flesh out Legion more, instead came with, "Well, that sucked." and we got no information. That's pretty much a basic CCP cut-and-run ploy. i can almost guarantee you Legion was near an open beta at Fanfest 2014, there video had every mechanic in place already to play the game, it just needed a few tweaks, added UI, and a few client adjustments and that what we saw on FF2014 could of been playable. A year and a half later - no news. It's almost a dead certainty CCP is making a PS4 FPS game at this point. Way too much production time has gone into it to be just a PC port.
argel999 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 4	Posted - 2015.09.09 17:05:00 - [33] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Sadly, the silence means the announcement of Dust's fate would be more damaging. If the announcement would be good news it would mean a boost in player counts, purchases, etc. Sooooo... Thor, WTF?! You build me up over there and extinguish my hopes and dreams over here! See Ratatti? See Hilmar!? This is what it comes to. If I have hope in DUST I will engender content, play, PAY If I have no hope in DUST....I will persist but not flourish. I will play but not pay. And I will not build content and encourage participation. Your choice. Good point. I think more than 2 ppl like me are still here cuz we till love the game, it's sad to see this cold silence.
axis alpha Neural Union 938	Posted - 2015.09.09 17:12:00 - [34] - Quote What I'm in shock and awe is they are just now ASKING US what the hell to do with the next hotfix..... barely... so I'm sure since they just got our feedback we are gonna be waiting another 2 or 3 months until it that hot fix is released... oh but for the sake of all that is holy let's go ahead and take some more of their money with these skins. Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu. Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!


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