It seems pointless because more often than not you'll end up on opposing teams.

It's always seemed pathetic to me.... Especially when it's a big corp doing it. I know it's part of the game but should it be?

It seems pointless because more often than not you'll end up on opposing teams.

It seems pointless because more often than not you'll end up on opposing teams.

Played a match earlier and was redlined in the first 3 mins , I stopped and looked to see the board and there it was , 2 q's on the same team and on my team a bunch of random players , I just left after seeing that ... wasn't like we were coming back anyway so why waste the time , I just cut Dust off and played something else .

Yes , we get the fact that you have " friends " that play Dust but please don't use that as a excuse to kill the numbers and stagnate the growth of the game by dropping Q's against random players .

" Friends " have zero to do with that type of behavior and that's just another excuse to keep stomping random players .

You people do this on purpose , so save the explanation for someone without sense that would actually believe what your trying to push and their in the same boat if they agree with that type of behavior , how is that competitive .?. how is that good for the game .?. what do you get from playing against random players while your coordinated .?. does that improve YOUR game and if so how .?. because I would think that you would want to go against others who do the same but I catch people leaving en mass and that's because their matched against the like , when it's random players they stay and when they get placed against other Q's they leave .

People that keep using that " friends " issue are a joke , you should want better , you should want better for the game and those who are lesser then you so that the game and it's numbers as well as revenue can grow , you should want to go against equally skilled competition instead of a team of random players and then what gets me is that , o.k. I get it , you have people that you like to play with but when you see that the opposing team is full of random players , why run full OFC / PRO gear .?. even after you see a team fielded with mostly MLT suits ?

Excuses , just simply excuses and like the saying goes ... everybody has them , like the people that use " friends " as a reason to why they encourage and condone this type of behavior .

I guess the fact of the matter is , the players are not asking for better and the ones that are , are being ignored , players are leaving on a daily because their not having fun and this along with the performance are the main issues and most of all CCP is doing and saying zero about it , which means they don't care and encourage this type of behavior so ...

If this game fails , it's because of management and the community at hand and that's a shame , but it's true .

You don't have to like what I say or how I say it but I will continue to callout the wrongs going on here , nothing will get done and I'm sure about that but for me , I can't sit back and just watch this because I don't condone it .

Edit : You people that are using long wait times are full of it too , I wait an average of 3 min for a match and 4 to 5 for a skirmish , to me that's not bad and I'm in the squad finder everyday , mostly running solo , the way I like it , when people join me , were playing FW with a 4 man team .

No problems , no excuses and you don't have to have a mic .

I'm going to take a stab at it and say you don't have any friends?


But seriously squads and que syncs are not new, yet this over whelming problem with red line stomps is. The real problem is the horribly small playerbase. I swear some times of the day I play and I wait 15 min or more to get into a pub match, with all game modes selected. If I get into a match it's against the same people over and over again. Basically I get the feeling only 32 people tops are playing dust at that time. If you don't get into a match with that group your waiting till the match is over.

It's always seemed pathetic to me.... Especially when it's a big corp doing it. I know it's part of the game but should it be?

It's always seemed pathetic to me.... Especially when it's a big corp doing it. I know it's part of the game but should it be?

What more can you expect when the "end game" mode allowing actual teamwork only takes place once every 24 - 48 hours at best.

Seriously? Last time I was in a corp there was 2-3 corp battles a day. And any corp worth **** can run fw all day long nonstop.

FW provides an outlet for that but generally if you are syncing you just end up steam rolling the other team and getting bored.

Obviously the number of PC battles varies by the amount of land a corp has but it still comes down to only a few battles a day. In our new found environment of having to have X amount of players to support X amount of battles someone is always going to get left out.


I am not defending Q syncs in pubs by any means I am just trying to point out that it is a problem created by the stagnant environment which is Dust 514.

So instead steamroll pubs and kill the game? Make a new account and play it for one week solo and tell me again how this isn't the reason everyone just gives up and quits battle further unbalancing the game and destroying it from within.

I just left after seeing that ... wasn't like we were coming back anyway so why waste the time , I just cut Dust off and played something else .

It's always seemed pathetic to me.... Especially when it's a big corp doing it. I know it's part of the game but should it be?

Payout? I've made over a billion in savings now with an average suit cost of 100k I don't need more isk I want a fair playing field without having to listen to a squad screaming bloody murder in my ear.

With the current payout system it is far more consistently profitable to just AFK or snipe than to actually fight unless you have APEX suits. As long as randoms are quitting or sitting in the redline because fighting for a win is going to guarantee they go ISK negative you are never going to get a fair match.

Squads function as a parachute to this by allowing either cheap suits to become highly effective through focused fire or by allowing proto suits to be better preserved.