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Dewie Cheecham Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 769	Posted - 2015.09.01 12:01:00 - [1] - Quote IMHO the primary barrier for new players, is that they only get two or three rounds in the academy, they they are thrown in the deep end against 50+ million SP players, and repeatedly ripped apart. That is in no way fun or enjoyable. A little resistance, and a few hard rounds can be interesting, but never getting the feet under you, trying to even play is not fun at all, and that is the ultimately reason why we play games. I'd love to see the statistics. How many new toons added over the past 3 months, are still active after one? Use the sec status. In eve, new player are "safe" in highsec, of course the nature of an FPS is not exactly safety, but at least use that sec status to filter for SP and WP, so only new toons enter in 1.0's and you'll need 10+ million SP for < 0.5 sec status locations. At least in Pubs. Also limit gear by sec status. Just as certain ships can't enter high sec in EVE, certain gear should be barred in the highest sec matches. 1.0: no gear above STD, no HAV/LAV/DS above Militia. 0.8 & 0.9: no gear above ADV, and no LAV/HAV/DS above STD 0.6 & 0.7: no gear above PRO, and no LAV/HAV/DS above ADV 0.0-0.5: No limits. Caveats: - What if the player is in a squad? Do high level players get pulled into the lowest common denominators bracket (bad idea) or will the lowest common denominator have to be pulled into the higher tier games? - Are there even enough matches these days to ensure all tiers can get to play without excessive waiting times?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.09.01 12:31:00 - [2] - Quote Not opposed in principle to meta locks, but I don't know that we've a sufficient number of players online at any given time for these to be implemented without serious impact to wait times ... Current Pub Queues: 4 FW Queues: 4 Total Queues: 8 Average Wait Time: 3 to 5 min Proposed Pub Queues: 4x4 = 16 FW Queues: 4 Total Queues: 20 Average Wait Time: 7.5 to 12.5 min * Best Case Scenario. Assumes players are evenly divided among all available queues, are actively seeking match and are not tied up in PC or PC prep.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.09.01 14:02:00 - [3] - Quote Alternative Idea: Convert an existing mode -- Ambush -- to a solo queue. * A stomp-free environment for newbro and vet alike * Less (if any) impact on wait times in other queues * Matches would be as close to perfectly balanced as possible * The "Leave Match" problem (which exacerbates quality issues) would not exist * Mercs out-of-squad would be less inclined to field Officer Gear (there'd be no need for meta lock) * Would make for a good place for newcomers to meet other players * Would make for excellent recruiting grounds Thoughts?
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.09.01 15:00:00 - [4] - Quote Make militia gear identical to STD gear except with greater fitting requirements. The reason they lose most engagements with vets in my opinion is that even if they have greater skill, their weapon carries less ammo, and reload slower so they have more times when they are defenseless against anyone. For example, the AR. 70 rounds, 3 sec reload. Militia has 50-something rounds and 3.5 sec reload. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.01 18:04:00 - [5] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Not opposed in principle to meta locks, but I don't know that we've a sufficient number of players online at any given time for these to be implemented without serious impact to wait times. I'd personally prefer to see wait times reduced and queues consolidated rather than the opposite; I fear that extensive waits would impact player counts, not to mention Active Booster sales. Current Pub Queues: 4 FW Queues: 4 Total Queues: 8 Average Wait Time: 3 to 5 min Proposed Pub Queues: 4x4 = 16 FW Queues: 4 Total Queues: 20 Average Wait Time: 7.5 to 12.5 min * Best Case Scenario. Assumes players are evenly divided among all available queues, are actively seeking match and are not tied up in PC or PC prep. That is the fault of the proto stompers. It's like a body of water, us vets are the sharks and the noobs are the fish, we've eaten so much without care or even remorse of our own demise that we've nearly killed ourselves off by ensuring that no new food can be born or grow. Longer waiting times is the price to pay because of our arrogance and ignorance and downright stupidity. In order for the sharks to survive, we need to make sure that the fish have a safe and stable environment for them to reproduce and grow, and truth be told only the ones that don't care about this game will die off, but in the end it will result in more feeding for sharks but at the same time allowing the fish to reproduce and possibly become sharks themselves. We need to separate new players from vets, there's no way around it, and longer waiting times will only kill of those who really never cared about dust to begin with, it will kill off those who only care about easy victories. If we don't separate, then this game will die from lack fish being reproduced. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.01 19:13:00 - [6] - Quote Just an FYI- I downloaded and tried to play eve a couple months ago and tbh, dust is way easier. Just wanted To get that out. Eve is complex CEO of T-W-L Twitter- @LD3514
Death Shadow117 Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion. 681	Posted - 2015.09.01 21:40:00 - [7] - Quote didn't read the op but what it is is the difference in sp that blues have compared to us what they need is a higher starting sp and for it to be put into core upgrades so you can't just make an alt to go farm academy newbs its our passive skill that help us and newberries don't know that. Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.01 21:51:00 - [8] - Quote Ease the game for new players? Why not just erase the game for new players? That's the more humane thing to do. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë


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