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![[Veteran_Miles Alari]](https://forums.dust514.com/themes/ccpDust514/dust-avatar-128.png "[Veteran_Miles Alari]")
[Veteran_Miles Alari]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:16:00 -
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While I am sure that DUST 514 mercs will be able to gallivant around the cluster in their MCCs and possibly even via Interbus, I'd also like to see an option where mercs can learn the appropriate racial piloting skills and (using the regular EVE client) fly around in shuttles and rookieships, and perhaps the venerable Primae. Basically, like a trial account but with the additional ship restriction to sub-frigate class ships. 
Of course (under this suggestion) their chipped reflexes might let them almost keep up with capsuleers, but they wouldn't have a pod and destroying their tiny ship would land the merc back in their home medical bay! |
[Veteran_Traynor Youngs]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:22:00 -
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No,
DUST mercs move around in their war barges.
Last few minutes talk about DUST in this video
Dust mercs are NOT pod pilots and therefor CANNOT pilot eve ships. |
[Veteran_Dargondarkfire darkfire]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:41:00 -
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well they do show fighters but, i don't think that would be a good way to try traveling. its possible that the fighters wouldn't even have jump drives to get across a system. |
[Veteran_Miles Alari]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:08:00 -
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Traynor Youngs wrote:
Dust mercs are NOT pod pilots and therefor CANNOT pilot eve ships.
~chuckle~
Guess you missed my comment about them not having pods.
But that's OK, it happens (also, I won a bet).
For those who are unfamiliar with what we're talking about, EVE capsuleers fly in a pod or capsule that's loaded into each ship:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Pod
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Capsuleer
Capsules (for non-Jovians) date back 120 years to the Gallente-Caldari war (see "The Jovian Wetgrave" by CCP), but the ability to transfer a pilot's consciousness to a new clone is only about a decade old. Also, for years players argued whether or not the capsuleer ships had additional crew (and there was much butt-hurtedness as only forums can generate); CCP finally said that they did (in the pod entry, it mentions crews of thousands for capital ships).
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[Veteran_Miles Alari]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:10:00 -
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Dargondarkfire darkfire wrote:
well they do show fighters but, i don't think that would be a good way to try traveling. its possible that the fighters wouldn't even have jump drives to get across a system.
Yah, fighters can warp about a system, but you lose them if you gate or otherwise jump out of a system while they're deployed.
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[Veteran_Traynor Youngs]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:10:00 -
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Dargondarkfire darkfire wrote:well they do show fighters but, i don't think that would be a good way to try traveling. its possible that the fighters wouldn't even have jump drives to get across a system.
UM, war barges are huge space ships that get into a low orbit and deploy MCC's (over 300m long each) to a planet for battle. Your Corp owns one, and uses it to move your corp around the universe of Eve.
Fighters are for flying around the battlefield and shooting stuff. |
[Veteran_Traynor Youngs]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:10:00 -
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Miles Alari wrote:Dargondarkfire darkfire wrote:
well they do show fighters but, i don't think that would be a good way to try traveling. its possible that the fighters wouldn't even have jump drives to get across a system.
Yah, fighters can warp about a system, but you lose them if you gate or otherwise jump out of a system while they're deployed.
Different kind of fighters.
Eve has space fighters, DUST will have aerial Fighters.... |
[Veteran_Miles Alari]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:14:00 -
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Traynor Youngs wrote:
UM, war barges are huge space ships that get into a low orbit and deploy MCC's (over 300m long each) to a planet for battle. Your Corp owns one, and uses it to move your corp around the universe of Eve.
Fighters are for flying around the battlefield and shooting stuff.
Nice! And yah, you see barge deployment in the intro sequence.
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[Veteran_Iceyburnz]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:20:00 -
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realistically, thats never going to happen, yes CCP could invest huge amounts of time and money into that kind of cross platform action.
What more likely is that Dust players will spawn in using some kind of clone bay module/Equipment.
Or the Warbarge itself will have a tech 2 jump drive that doesn't need a cyno and is tanked with 90% resists and is immune to everything except direct damage.
That being said I really hope use dusts can stand in our war barge bridge and command it jump to x system. And maybe some limited kind of overview/targeting/defence.
But then that means your gonna get dusts trying to fly about ganking frigates in their war barge...
LOL awesome. |
[Veteran_Traynor Youngs]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 21:33:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:realistically, thats never going to happen, yes CCP could invest huge amounts of time and money into that kind of cross platform action.
What more likely is that Dust players will spawn in using some kind of clone bay module/Equipment.
Or the Warbarge itself will have a tech 2 jump drive that doesn't need a cyno and is tanked with 90% resists and is immune to everything except direct damage.
That being said I really hope use dusts can stand in our war barge bridge and command it jump to x system. And maybe some limited kind of overview/targeting/defence.
But then that means your gonna get dusts trying to fly about ganking frigates in their war barge...
LOL awesome.
I think I head somewhere that you select a system on the map and then there is some kind of counter that tells you when you get there.
So if your corp wants to move all the way across the cluster, it takes like 8 hours or something like that.
I also don't know how your location fits into the casual gaming stuff.
For instance, if I am in my Corp war barge in the back side of Null and nothing is going on, how do I get into a pick up game on the battle moons? Does it matter?
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[Veteran_Sintel Jenner]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:11:00 -
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Well, just to throw another log on the fire, the book Templar One (I seriously need to finish it) already mentions a capsuleer being on the bridge of a ship that's run the old fashioned way and feeling completely defenseless because it takes them so much longer to do things. In the EVE universe, not everyone has access to the ability or the desire to become a capsuleer.
Whether this is actually a good idea or not is a different point entirely. |
[Veteran_Xocoyol Zaraoul]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:01:00 -
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Miles Alari wrote:fly around in shuttles and rookieships, and perhaps the venerable Primae
Well, while there are podless versions of every ship in EVE, I am not sure what on earth a Merc would need with a Colony ship such as the Primae. |
[Veteran_Kristof Atruin]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:25:00 -
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It would essentially be like setting them up to fly around Eve in the unarmed shuttles. On the face of it, this seems pretty simple, but if Dust merc and Eve capsuleers are literally on the same server then what happens if you log in to eve and shuttle yourself halfway across the galaxy and then fire up Dust on your PS3? As far as your PS3 knows and is capable of representing you're still in your merc quarters. Would Dust prompt you to commit suicide and clone jump back to the war barge?
Could be cool for the sake of immersion if you could work that out, but might not be worth the effort. A Dust player could easily make a trial account anyway if they're interested in seeing what space looks like. |
[Veteran_Dargondarkfire darkfire]
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:42:00 -
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Traynor Youngs wrote:Miles Alari wrote:Dargondarkfire darkfire wrote:
well they do show fighters but, i don't think that would be a good way to try traveling. its possible that the fighters wouldn't even have jump drives to get across a system.
Yah, fighters can warp about a system, but you lose them if you gate or otherwise jump out of a system while they're deployed. Different kind of fighters. Eve has space fighters, DUST will have aerial Fighters....
the video shows a space fighter, if this is piloted or pod controlled i don't know.
the map we have been playing on is no were near big enough for a fighter battle, so unless they are VTOL type fighters the maps will need to be much bigger! |
[Veteran_Xocoyol Zaraoul]
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Posted - 2012.06.15 19:18:00 -
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Dargondarkfire darkfire wrote:the video shows a space fighter
Wait, really?! The firepower on the Space Fighters is disgusting... Those will be strafing runs from hell considering they move and punch like Assault Frigs, can anyone else confirm this? |
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