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Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 02:22:00 - [1] - Quote Going out on a limb with this... Most agree shields and armor are unbalanced. What if armor-based suits didn't have shields at all, instead had extra armor to compensate. A shield suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. This would add more difference between suit types. Would also make armor suits regen slower. Thoughts? Real CPM Platform
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 3	Posted - 2015.08.23 02:28:00 - [2] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: A shield suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. Wut ? CEO of Corrosive Synergy Teacher of FUN, Preacher of LOLz PLC Vet
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.23 02:29:00 - [3] - Quote All your ideas are ~~bad~~ radical. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.08.23 02:42:00 - [4] - Quote Mind- Blown. This would take Shield to Armor Tactics very interesting, but you would have to put in Flux Grenades and as well as the OP ARR & OP AScR Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 02:47:00 - [5] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: A shield suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. Wut ? I meant armor suit... lol So that an armor suit could be customized to have shields as well. Real CPM Platform
Death Shadow117 Wolf Pack Special Forces 608	Posted - 2015.08.23 04:12:00 - [6] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: A shield suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. Wut ? I meant armor suit... lol So that an armor suit could be customized to have shields as well. what about only for the medium and heavy armor based suits and leave the scouts out of it. TBH the minscout has too little ehp to begin with and taking away its 126 shields wouldn't help it much just as adding more armor wouldn't help it. Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 04:25:00 - [7] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Going out on a limb with this... Most agree shields and armor are unbalanced. What if armor-based suits didn't have shields at all, instead had extra armor to compensate. An armor suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. This would add more difference between suit types. Would also make armor suits regen slower. Thoughts? I don't think that it's fair to gimp a suit because of the inefficiencies of another , that's just wrong and the powers that be will do nothing about Caldari suits because they just don't see anything wrong with them / just don't care enough . You people can make thread after thread and nothing will get done . Sad but true and a waste of time but as a Caldari , I appreciate the effort though . I wouldn't want the Minmatar suits to become any better then they already are , to me there the best hands down but I would love to see my Caldari compete better then they currently do . Better shield stats and more armor would work for me because they have the least amount of lows , so there's really not much that they can do once their niche is down and that what makes them so weak . Thanks for the effort though . I really would like to hope that something would get done but I have no faith in CCP at all . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Union118 NON-Fatal Condemnation 681	Posted - 2015.08.23 06:57:00 - [8] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Going out on a limb with this... Most agree shields and armor are unbalanced. What if armor-based suits didn't have shields at all, instead had extra armor to compensate. An armor suit could however, fit shield extenders if they wished. This would add more difference between suit types. Would also make armor suits regen slower. Thoughts? If you break down the base shields and armor comparison from amarr to caldari you find that the amarr gets a bigger bonus to armor compared to the shields of the caldari. So if the shields of the caldari match the armor of the amarr it should even out. But given that the scrambler is doing 40% more dmg than intended to shields then idk what to do. It makes sense for people to start using gal assault with rail rifle. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.08.23 08:00:00 - [9] - Quote Well considering armour is considered to be superior to shields right now, would not giving the armour suits extra HP in exchange for their shield HP just be an added bonus? "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 995	Posted - 2015.08.23 09:15:00 - [10] - Quote A nice caldari assault boost would be to reduce the delays a bit (1sec would do), increase base shield HP (to Frame's lvl, and buff Frame's to Balac's lvl) and reduce extenders PG cost to 8 for proto. A ferroscale gives more HP, has no drawback, and cost 8 PG and less CPU than a shield extender. So at least bringing the shield extender to 8 PG would make things more even. The cal assault only has 80 PG with core maxed, and its extenders are using them more than armor tanker plates(ak.0 has 97PG...). Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise

DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 3	Posted - 2015.08.23 12:25:00 - [11] - Quote I love how this only concerns full armor and shield tankers. Would love to see what you'll do with Minmatar Assaults dual tankers. I only don't like this idea because it kills the diversity in this game. Sometimes , I run shield tanked gallente assault with 5 regulators. CEO of Corrosive Synergy Teacher of FUN, Preacher of LOLz PLC Vet
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.23 16:29:00 - [12] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: I love how this only concerns full armor and shield tankers. Would love to see what you'll do with Minmatar Assaults dual tankers. I only don't like this idea because it kills the diversity in this game. Sometimes , I run shield tanked gallente assault with 5 regulators. Ugh throws up CEO of 48SOF Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.23 16:34:00 - [13] - Quote I think a simple nerf to armor would be a lot safer. Increase fitting costs a bit and perhaps add a 1% speed penalty to ferroscales
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 16:46:00 - [14] - Quote Buff shield suits regen rate and delays. Nerf armor suits shield regen/delays. Armor suit regenerate its shield within approx 20 sec Shield suit regenerate its armor within 2-3min. Modern society is lacking in empathy
Tiny Pineapple Corrosive Synergy No Context 325	Posted - 2015.08.23 19:16:00 - [15] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: I love how this only concerns full armor and shield tankers. Would love to see what you'll do with Minmatar Assaults dual tankers. I only don't like this idea because it kills the diversity in this game. Sometimes , I run shield tanked gallente assault with 5 regulators. 3 regulators are enough, the extra 2 are useless as stacking penalties make their bonus practically nonexistant. "I feel so liberated." -Eros Adonai, 22/08/2015
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.08.23 19:26:00 - [16] - Quote This is not the way to go. At all. This is a really bad band-aid for a problem that needs actual surgery. The problem isn't that armor has shields or that shields have armor. The problem is how much better it is to have armor over shields. That's what we need to fix. Getting rid of Caldari's armor isn't going to stop armor from having rep tools and triage hives, or more base health, or unstoppable reps. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.08.23 19:36:00 - [17] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Buff shield suits regen rate and delays. Nerf armor suits shield regen/delays. Armor suit regenerate its shield within approx 20 sec Shield suit regenerate its armor within 2-3min. Gotta remember that shield recharge modules are percentage based, while armor repairers just give a set amount. Shield suits can close the armor repair deficiency much better than armor suits can close the shield one. If you want both to recharge/repair their opposite tank at an equal speed, then both would need to have equal difficulty in fixing that deficiency. In other words, armor repair modules would need to give a higher bonus to armor based suits than shield suits, just like rechargers and energizers do now. AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 23:13:00 - [18] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Buff shield suits regen rate and delays. Nerf armor suits shield regen/delays. Armor suit regenerate its shield within approx 20 sec Shield suit regenerate its armor within 2-3min. Gotta remember that shield recharge modules are percentage based, while armor repairers just give a set amount. Shield suits can close the armor repair deficiency much better than armor suits can close the shield one. If you want both to recharge/repair their opposite tank at an equal speed, then both would need to have equal difficulty in fixing that deficiency. In other words, armor repair modules would need to give a higher bonus to armor based suits than shield suits, just like rechargers and energizers do now. You missed the point. If you don't eqiup armor repair module on shield suits, your armor is just for show. You don't need any shield related mods on armor suits to make shield useful. Modern society is lacking in empathy
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:53:00 - [19] - Quote And shield suits get no armor, just extra shields to compensate? My Duvolle and Creodron buddies agree with your ideas. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:09:00 - [20] - Quote Joel II X wrote: And shield suits get no armor, just extra shields to compensate? My Duvolle and Creodron buddies agree with your ideas. Dude. 1 gallagi with any rifle, flux grenades scanner and gives will obliterate caldari. CEO of 48SOF Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0



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