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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.08.20 11:08:00 -
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I think they should be swapped. Ammo swap. The breach has to much ammo and damage for one clip and is outshing the assault. The assault on the other hand is good imo but the ammo just isn't enough.
And thoughts on swapping thier ammo? Or at least tweaking them?
They would be best if they resembled the assault rifle (high rof, high ammo, low damage) and the breach assault rifle (low ammo low rof high damage).
Right now it's basically swapped. Imagine the assault rifle with 30 rounds. It's kinda useless. Now imagine the breach assault rifle with 70 rounds. OP. While the breach smg isn't op, it certainly makes the assault varient crap.
The vanilla smg is ok imo.
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Diablo Gamekeeper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 11:12:00 -
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Nope, the assault is good
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.08.20 15:12:00 -
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-sees standard assault rifle clip,70 rounds.
Kool!
-sees breach assault rifle at 30 rounds
Hmm,even kooler!
-grabs standard smg,sees 80 round clips
Hot dayum! Dats alot of slugs!
-gets a breach smg,only 8 shots missing but way more damage.
Oi somethings seems wrong here.
-picks up assault smg,sees description reads as extra ammo and fire rate.
Kooooool!
-is in fire fight,pulls out the mighty smg sees stunted clip size. Dies.
Damnit!
-checks stats,wtf. The breach has more clip size than the sassault.
It really should be:
Vanilla smg- 72 in the clip.
Breach smg- 68 or whatever the assault smg clip size is.
Assault smg- 80 in the clip.
The values are actually correct with the description.
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Echo 1991
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:20:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:Nope, the assault is good
The ammo is wrong. How can an assault variant of a weapon have less ammo than the breach variant?
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:22:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:52:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:-sees standard assault rifle clip,70 rounds.
Kool!
-sees breach assault rifle at 30 rounds
Hmm,even kooler!
-grabs standard smg,sees 80 round clips
Hot dayum! Dats alot of slugs!
-gets a breach smg,only 8 shots missing but way more damage.
Oi somethings seems wrong here.
-picks up assault smg,sees description reads as extra ammo and fire rate.
Kooooool!
-is in fire fight,pulls out the mighty smg sees stunted clip size. Dies.
Damnit!
-checks stats,wtf. The breach has more clip size than the sassault.
It really should be:
Vanilla smg- 72 in the clip.
Breach smg- 68 or whatever the assault smg clip size is.
Assault smg- 80 in the clip.
The values are actually correct with the description.
They'll need to have their damage values adjusted accordingly.
I remember the Assault SMG outperforming the other sidearms. Then the sidearm hotfix adjusted the values of every sidearm. The Bolt Pistol became ridiculously OP, then readjusted, and since then the Breach SMG has been dominant.
I like to see the Assault SMG fixed (along with the other SMGs to make them all viable) but I don't want to see the Ishukone Assault SMG as the go-to sidearm again.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:19:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:-sees standard assault rifle clip,70 rounds.
Kool!
-sees breach assault rifle at 30 rounds
Hmm,even kooler!
-grabs standard smg,sees 80 round clips
Hot dayum! Dats alot of slugs!
-gets a breach smg,only 8 shots missing but way more damage.
Oi somethings seems wrong here.
-picks up assault smg,sees description reads as extra ammo and fire rate.
Kooooool!
-is in fire fight,pulls out the mighty smg sees stunted clip size. Dies.
Damnit!
-checks stats,wtf. The breach has more clip size than the sassault.
It really should be:
Vanilla smg- 72 in the clip.
Breach smg- 68 or whatever the assault smg clip size is.
Assault smg- 80 in the clip.
The values are actually correct with the description. They'll need to have their damage values adjusted accordingly. I remember the Assault SMG outperforming the other sidearms. Then the sidearm hotfix adjusted the values of every sidearm. The Bolt Pistol became ridiculously OP, then readjusted, and since then the Breach SMG has been dominant. I like to see the Assault SMG fixed (along with the other SMGs to make them all viable) but I don't want to see the Ishukone Assault SMG as the go-to sidearm again.
Yes. And the bolt pistol needs to be reverted to when it was firsts introduced and the scrambler pistols need major working.
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Songs of Seraphim
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:34:00 -
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The Bolt Pistol is fine, but the magnetism thing needs a bit of inspection.
Especially since in ADS, headshots don't register.
The Scrambler Pistol needs some tuning, but is still a solid weapon choice. Especially the Breach Scrambler Pistol, it hits like a truck.
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Echo 1991
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:47:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:The Bolt Pistol is fine, but the magnetism thing needs a bit of inspection.
Especially since in ADS, headshots don't register.
The Scrambler Pistol needs some tuning, but is still a solid weapon choice. Especially the Breach Scrambler Pistol, it hits like a truck.
It isn't fine. To me it does far too much damage for a sidearm. Sniper rifle damage from close range is madness and it needs to be toned down.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:55:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:The Bolt Pistol is fine, but the magnetism thing needs a bit of inspection.
Especially since in ADS, headshots don't register.
The Scrambler Pistol needs some tuning, but is still a solid weapon choice. Especially the Breach Scrambler Pistol, it hits like a truck. It isn't fine. To me it does far too much damage for a sidearm. Sniper rifle damage from close range is madness and it needs to be toned down.
*cough cough*
Revert to the old 6 shot bolt pistol!
*cough cough*
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:08:00 -
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I agree that the Assault smg needs a larger clip. I'm also fine with the breach getting a smaller clip. Solid points.
Also I think the Assault smg should have the same fitting capacity as the other smgs. Being harder to fit comes from the time where it was just plain better in every way. Now that they are supposedly balanced they should have the same fitting costs imo.
With regard to the bolt pistol.. Lol that thing is easy mode. I'd say a reduction in hip fire accuracy would put it more in line. |
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