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Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:41:00 - [1] - Quote My proto tank costs me over 1.3 mil ISK and all shills maxed. If I play scared it will last more than one game, but I wont get kills and do too much for my team. If I fight and support and put myself in the action to give my team cover to take a point, I either die from nades/AV or have to leave my guys right when they need me the most. How to fix this: Give Proto 1 more slot . Give Proto a little more cpu/pg. Lower delay for sheild activation. Increase sheild duration. What do you think?
Diablo Gamekeeper Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 557	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote -.- I'm back Rainbow Dash I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 283	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:47:00 - [3] - Quote Forget your teamates, save the whip. Stop using shield tanks for up close work. They are bad, and no fix will help them in that regard. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 440	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:47:00 - [4] - Quote Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Purifier. First Class.
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:49:00 - [5] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 283	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:51:00 - [6] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:53:00 - [7] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Forget your teamates, save the whip. Stop using shield tanks for up close work. They are bad, and no fix will help them in that regard. both need help and I like sheild. If I catch a maddy he is dead, does not matter. Playing around with maddy, but to slow for me. But working on.
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 21:54:00 - [8] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. I will try a proto maddy today for CQC What is your fit?
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 283	Posted - 2015.08.14 22:38:00 - [9] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Forget your teamates, save the whip. Stop using shield tanks for up close work. They are bad, and no fix will help them in that regard. both need help and I like sheild. If I catch a maddy he is dead, does not matter. Playing around with maddy, but to slow for me. But working on. No shield tank is winning a fight against my maddy. You can even get the first shot. Armor tanks need no help right now. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 283	Posted - 2015.08.14 22:39:00 - [10] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. I will try a proto maddy today for CQC What is your fit? 80gj Ion Cannon 2x 20gj blasters Enhanced 120mm plate 2x complex hardeners 1x complex heavy repper. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu

Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 22:46:00 - [11] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. I will try a proto maddy today for CQC What is your fit? 80gj Ion Cannon 2x 20gj blasters Enhanced 120mm plate 2x complex hardeners 1x complex heavy repper. Thanks will try
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 440	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:05:00 - [12] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options By "more options" I meant more modules to choose from when making a fit, not the ability to put more modules on a fit. Purifier. First Class.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:24:00 - [13] - Quote Gunlogi is not in the best shape. Certainly not for blaster in cqc. Madrugar may feel "slow" for you because you probably use a controller to drive, It's either keyboard / mouse or keyboard / controller to drive effectively. With a keyboard you can simultaneously accelerate and steer. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:40:00 - [14] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Forget your teamates, save the whip. Stop using shield tanks for up close work. They are bad, and no fix will help them in that regard. both need help and I like sheild. If I catch a maddy he is dead, does not matter. Playing around with maddy, but to slow for me. But working on. No shield tank is winning a fight against my maddy. You can even get the first shot. Armor tanks need no help right now. sounds good, would love to try it. lets do it and have fun.
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:43:00 - [15] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Gunlogi is not in the best shape. Certainly not for blaster in cqc. Madrugar may feel "slow" for you because you probably use a controller to drive, It's either keyboard / mouse or keyboard / controller to drive effectively. With a keyboard you can simultaneously accelerate and steer. Yea that might be the way to go. I do get frustrated when trying to turn around and start moving places I don't want to go because of the way the controller is. What do you do, sit at a desk in front of the TV to play? I play to relax, sitting on the sofa reclined. No room for mouse and kybd.
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:45:00 - [16] - Quote off to try out maddy for CQC
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 204	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:52:00 - [17] - Quote Frankly I don't think the solution to the problem is to make tanks even more untouchable. It's bad enough for those people with basically unlimited funds can buy such a power up as it stands now. What we need are more balanced tanks that you can expect die 2-3 times a match if your pushing hard, just like proto suits. But the cost could be dropped to maybe 500k max. About twice the price of a proto suit seems far more reasonable imo. To make such a thing work imo proto tanks (at least duel/triple hardened tanks) need some kind of a nerf while the rest need a bit of a buff. Advanced, basic and militia tanks are just fodder waiting to blow up right now. So the lower levels of tanks could use a bit of a buff some how but that's about it. I rather see tanks that you can risk losing that might die than some kind of unstoppable juggernaut that people expect to last 5-10 battles before they die. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.08.15 01:29:00 - [18] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. I take my Gunni into brawling range to lay down infantry AoD, but not to tank fight. I am having a blast worrying about infantry denial rather than just trying to fight tanks. Be aware of the tank traffic on the map as much as you can and back off and pull up as possible. Engage a tank at range when backed to the redline. Look at the map then pull forward as needed to engage at range when the enemy doesn't see you and doesn't have their hardeners on. I have done better with big D and basic turrets at range than less D, proto turrets and CQ. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.15 02:47:00 - [19] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: Frankly I don't think the solution to the problem is to make tanks even more untouchable. It's bad enough for those people with basically unlimited funds can buy such a power up as it stands now. What we need are more balanced tanks that you can expect die 2-3 times a match if your pushing hard, just like proto suits. But the cost could be dropped to maybe 500k max. About twice the price of a proto suit seems far more reasonable imo. To make such a thing work imo proto tanks (at least duel/triple hardened tanks) need some kind of a nerf while the rest need a bit of a buff. Advanced, basic and militia tanks are just fodder waiting to blow up right now. So the lower levels of tanks could use a bit of a buff some how but that's about it. I rather see tanks that you can risk losing that might die than some kind of unstoppable juggernaut that people expect to last 5-10 battles before they die. How many kills does a proto suit get a game? How much does it cost? Using that as a bases, if you weaken the tanks you need to bring their cost down to around 200-250. weak tanks, cheap price strong tanks, expensive price NOT Weak tanks, expensive price
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 23	Posted - 2015.08.15 02:50:00 - [20] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Tanks more variety and options for fits, and more raw HP so they're not super fragile without Hardeners, rather than more slots and CPU/PG Which tank are you using? Gunny, I use maddy to much like a slug More hp is fine, more slots give us options Don't take shield tanks into brawling engagements and you won't need the extra slots. I take my Gunni into brawling range to lay down infantry AoD, but not to tank fight. I am having a blast worrying about infantry denial rather than just trying to fight tanks. Be aware of the tank traffic on the map as much as you can and back off and pull up as possible. Engage a tank at range when backed to the redline. Look at the map then pull forward as needed to engage at range when the enemy doesn't see you and doesn't have their hardeners on. I have done better with big D and basic turrets at range than less D, proto turrets and CQ. I see your play and yes it is smart, but to me that is playing scared always keeping in mind the red zone to run to. No offense, but I will use cover and retreat, but I do not like turteling. Also I use a blaster, unless we are being pushed to red, then I use rail and fight from red.



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