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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv.

To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there.

Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away.

In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away.

I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance.

Useful information to be sure, all of which I'm intrinsically aware of. However, this isn't "dodging" swarms as some forum dreamers seem to think is a thing. Running away isn't an evasive maneuver.

Running away is the very definition of an evasive maneuver and I don't think literally dodging is what people are talking about. More like "dodging" the damage. You know, like "surfing" the Web. If by dodging one means having the swarms hit something else then flying low and getting right behind a building works; Something I rarely do. It's easier to fly away and then circle back around. However, I like to think of "not getting close to the swarmer's area of operation" to be dodging.

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DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote So it's no secret I hardly play this lagfest anymore, but when I do I fly and when I fly I die and then I cry cuz I'm bad. With that out of the way, I see a lot of talk from people on the forums who I've never seen fly, and they go on and on about how "good pilots" can dodge swarms. Ok. I'd like to see some video. I don't want your elaborate fictional explanation, I just want some simple footage of ADS reliably dodging swarms like these forum nobodies keep implying. Since it's so simple it should be easy for someone to whip me up a video of it, because I am very clearly doing something very wrong. So. Enlighten me. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 632	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:11:00 - [2] - Quote Sir Diaper Dor-ket likes to hop out of his ADS and fire swarms...but I'll bet he can't dodge them since he doesn't seem to have the grit to dogfight. I don't think I've ever successfully lead swarms into an obstacle other than my hull. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 901	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:11:00 - [3] - Quote You'll never get one ! Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:13:00 - [4] - Quote Nah, nobody's ever said that, and it isn't true. You've been trolled. Get good at forums and the game Real CPM Platform
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.12 19:15:00 - [5] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Nah, nobody's ever said that, and it isn't true. You've been trolled. Get good at forums and the game breaks down crying OH GOD WHY CAN'T I BE SO GOOD LYKE YOUUUU!?!!?!?!?!!??!!?!? And it has been said, and I know they're stupid. Which is why I'm calling them out. For being bad. Like you. And me. And CCP. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.12 21:12:00 - [6] - Quote Not that you can dodge but I've been killed by ADS pilots while firing Beacons at them in jumpy minmando. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.08.12 21:22:00 - [7] - Quote I think this could be a skill if a few things were consistent in game (like if anything was consistent in this game lol). If you could SEE the damned things all the time If the hit marker was accurate all the time If the missiles followed some sort of predictable flight pattern, and didn't operate under some insane inapplicable physics like this was the matrix. Then maybe "dodging swarms" could be considered a legit skill, and I would try to learn it. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.08.12 22:14:00 - [8] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Not that you can dodge but I've been killed by ADS pilots while firing Beacons at them in jumpy minmando. That pilot needs a ****ing medal. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.08.12 22:17:00 - [9] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Not that you can dodge but I've been killed by ADS pilots while firing Beacons at them in jumpy minmando. That pilot needs a ****ing medal. Agreed "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.08.12 22:17:00 - [10] - Quote Personally I don't know how to dodge them, but I haven't really tried any aerobatics, the best way i've found is to afterburn out of the area as fast as i can and not look back... well sometimes i look back, but far too many times i've thought i was safe then had 4 volleys catch up and hit me, left me feeling very sheepish. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet

Quasar Storm 0uter.Heaven 644	Posted - 2015.08.12 22:34:00 - [11] - Quote Dodging swarms? You don't "dodge" them. You flip on the AB and fly away. You'll still get hit so you gotta run away with enough hp to escape the range. Don't know who told you you can dodge stuff lol They were tripping acid. Also, I don't know if this is a troll post. I'm Canadian and I'm gullible. Recent studies show that staring at a green apple changes the likelihood of all ravens being black.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.08.12 22:55:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: So it's no secret I hardly play this lagfest anymore, but when I do I fly and when I fly I die and then I cry cuz I'm bad. With that out of the way, I see a lot of talk from people on the forums who I've never seen fly, and they go on and on about how "good pilots" can dodge swarms. Ok. I'd like to see some video. I don't want your elaborate fictional explanation, I just want some simple footage of ADS reliably dodging swarms like these forum nobodies keep implying. Since it's so simple it should be easy for someone to whip me up a video of it, because I am very clearly doing something very wrong. So. Enlighten me. I would but since the swarm speed increase, its near impossible SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
VAHZZ Vader's-Fist 6	Posted - 2015.08.12 23:55:00 - [13] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Not that you can dodge but I've been killed by ADS pilots while firing Beacons at them in jumpy minmando. That pilot needs a ***ing medal. Agreed Quite. Director of Vader's Fist I survived Survivor*
axis alpha Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 815	Posted - 2015.08.13 00:00:00 - [14] - Quote I've seen a couple peeps dodge my last volley but never the first two. And I guess it's not really dodging, its more the go around a building so the missiles hit the building. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
abdullah muzaffar Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 697	Posted - 2015.08.13 03:06:00 - [15] - Quote Considering that swarms pass through most objects... It isn't likely. They apparently went right through a train carriage and killed my lav once. Seems to have no collision hitbox on the projectiles or its bugged. My Trades
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 755	Posted - 2015.08.13 10:01:00 - [16] - Quote challenge Accepted ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.08.13 10:07:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Nah, nobody's ever said that, and it isn't true. You've been trolled. Get good at forums and the game breaks down crying OH GOD WHY CAN'T I BE SO GOOD LYKE YOUUUU!?!!?!?!?!!??!!?!? And it has been said, and I know they're stupid. Which is why I'm calling them out. For being bad. Like you. And me. And CCP. haveing conversations with stupid people will rub off on you. you have been warned. CBM
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.13 11:09:00 - [18] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: challenge Accepted Lmfao I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.08.13 11:39:00 - [19] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: challenge Accepted thats not how you fit that ship! but that is generally how you'll die in it hehehe. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 756	Posted - 2015.08.13 11:44:00 - [20] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: challenge Accepted thats not how you fit that ship! but that is generally how you'll die in it hehehe. I refuse to fit an afterburner! ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage

Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:18:00 - [21] - Quote I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv. To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there. Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away. In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away. I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:23:00 - [22] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv. To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there. Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away. In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away. I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance. Useful information to be sure, all of which I'm intrinsically aware of. However, this isn't "dodging" swarms as some forum dreamers seem to think is a thing. Running away isn't an evasive maneuver. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:25:00 - [23] - Quote axis alpha wrote: I've seen a couple peeps dodge my last volley but never the first two. And I guess it's not really dodging, its more the go around a building so the missiles hit the building. The first and sometimes second volley doesn't even load until the next onw is already on its way. Lag makes it harder to get away from. This is especially true if you fly xloser to the location than away for some reason. I guess just like with infantry fighting, the more that has to render, the more lag. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:29:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv. To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there. Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away. In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away. I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance. Useful information to be sure, all of which I'm intrinsically aware of. However, this isn't "dodging" swarms as some forum dreamers seem to think is a thing. Running away isn't an evasive maneuver. Running away is the very definition of an evasive maneuver and I don't think literally dodging is what people are talking about. More like "dodging" the damage. You know, like "surfing" the Web. If by dodging one means having the swarms hit something else then flying low and getting right behind a building works; Something I rarely do. It's easier to fly away and then circle back around. However, I like to think of "not getting close to the swarmer's area of operation" to be dodging. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 756	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:30:00 - [25] - Quote But Seriously, there is no escape Listen, and understand! That Swarm Launcher is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your ADS is dead. ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.13 12:36:00 - [26] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv. To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there. Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away. In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away. I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance. Useful information to be sure, all of which I'm intrinsically aware of. However, this isn't "dodging" swarms as some forum dreamers seem to think is a thing. Running away isn't an evasive maneuver. Running away is the very definition of an evasive maneuver and I don't think literally dodging is what people are talking about. More like "dodging" the damage. You know, like "surfing" the Web. If by dodging one means having the swarms hit something else then flying low and getting right behind a building works; Something I rarely do. It's easier to fly away and then circle back around. However, I like to think of "not getting close to the swarmer's area of operation" to be dodging. An easive maneuver isnt running away because you stay in the fight. It's how you fight FG and PLC and missile and blaster turrets, you calculate their likely trajectory and alter your flight path to dodge while still remaining in the engagements. Running away is retreating, and in most cases is the only viable option vs swarms I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.08.13 22:01:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I don't have the equipment to record video and I'm not going to set up a camera in front of my tv. To evade swarms you need to learn to keep moving and don't hover. Use your momentum to swing into position and then swing away. If you know where swarms are then don't go near there. Also, the Python is better against swarms. Shields take less damage from swarms. A shield booster eve. Works great on an Incubus because it gives you a freebie warning shot then buffers the next shot as you fly away. In an Incubus, I don't even have an AB usually. I have a scanner and scans can help infantry tske out the swarmer. If you learn to fly mainly using your roll then add a little yaw to that you can fly quickly in a direction rather than float into a direction with just yaw. Quickly roll to the side and then yaw so that you do a quick 180-¦ and fly away. I don't always evade, but when I do it's because I know where the swarmer is generally operating and work around that area, keeping distance. oh god. please return to flight school and resit the module "afterburners are not optional on an incubus" Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet


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