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Exodeon Salviej
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:12:00 -
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We've all experienced it; Those moments when it simply takes three rounds to mow a red berry down, but this doesn't happen all the time. Yes, all of us are well aware that the Scrambler Rifle is a double edged sword through either overheating, or simply not doing any sort of damage whatsoever to the armor of your target.
But, fellow friends, we have come to learn that this is simply one of the rare, and deeply satisfying loves. That kind of love thateven an unappetizing show of character just draws you in more.
The fact of the matter is; The Scrambler Rifle will always have its' place among us, and everybody, including yourself enjoys a good Scrambler Rifle to the face, whether you're giving, or receiving.
Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.
Commandoooo punch! >:D
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:19:00 -
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It shoots laser dild0s Dunno what chu talkin about.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:57:00 -
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Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D
In some respects I think you and I have to agree that it does need a change somewhat be it mechanically to the charged shot and perhaps something small like a 5% damage nerf or change to profile.
Either way I came to the sudden stark realisation yesterday playing a match, due to a very anecdotal moment, that the ScR is a bastard to fight even if you are lucky enough to be wearing an Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit with 1047 armour.... that being said I am a terrible Sentinel.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D In some respects I think you and I have to agree that it does need a change somewhat be it mechanically to the charged shot and perhaps something small like a 5% damage nerf or change to profile. Either way I came to the sudden stark realisation yesterday playing a match, due to a very anecdotal moment, that the ScR is a bastard to fight even if you are lucky enough to be wearing an Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit with 1047 armour.... that being said I am a terrible Sentinel.
Instead of a Damage nerf I'd prefer an decrease in accuracy for both ads and hipfire that way hitting your target is still rewarding.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:22:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D
I kinda get the feeling that you've never used the TAR, not to mention that there is a very obvious difference in range
and lets see which one of the two kicks a hell of a lot more
lets also take into account that a TAR cannot charge a shot to deal massive amounts of damge to both shields and armor for a preemptive strike
I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure the TAR has far more drawbacks then the ScR and even the AScR and when it comes to range and dealing with its intended target, any of the amarr weapons do a far better job even with taking down armor in most cases
but sure the ScR isn't OP in fact it does what it supposed to, but that doesn't mean that other things aren't UP or OP compared to it, shields need a buff along with that AR's need a buff to compensate, and native passive armor reps need a buff as well in my opinion, the RR gets beat out at range by many rifles due to its terrible kick that forces the user to burst fire it this in itself should be reason enough for a buff in the form of a reduction to kick as has been stated by many, the AR does poorly against armor but is perfectly balanced with shields both need a respective buff to be on par with armor and the ScR, the ScR over performs against shields due to the fact that shields have overall less ehp but now after the nerf it took it is perfectly balanced against armor
there are a lot more factors to consider when calling something OP or UP and that same reason is why I am against a direct nerf to the BP as the only real argument is the AA being too strong this is true as it is with any weapon using AA, in a tactical shooter AA shouldn't even be a thing and the argument that AA is necessary for hit detection may have been true in the past but it surely is not anymore so remove it then we can see what weapons really are OP and UP
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:31:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D I kinda get the feeling that you've never used the TAR, not to mention that there is a very obvious difference in range and lets see which one of the two kicks a hell of a lot more lets also take into account that a TAR cannot charge a shot to deal massive amounts of damge to both shields and armor for a preemptive strike I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure the TAR has far more drawbacks then the ScR and even the AScR and when it comes to range and dealing with its intended target, any of the amarr weapons do a far better job even with taking down armor in most cases but sure the ScR isn't OP in fact it does what it supposed to, but that doesn't mean that other things aren't UP or OP compared to it, shields need a buff along with that AR's need a buff to compensate, and native passive armor reps need a buff as well in my opinion, the RR gets beat out at range by many rifles due to its terrible kick that forces the user to burst fire it this in itself should be reason enough for a buff in the form of a reduction to kick as has been stated by many, the AR does poorly against armor but is perfectly balanced with shields both need a respective buff to be on par with armor and the ScR, the ScR over performs against shields due to the fact that shields have overall less ehp but now after the nerf it took it is perfectly balanced against armor there are a lot more factors to consider when calling something OP or UP and that same reason is why I am against a direct nerf to the BP as the only real argument is the AA being too strong this is true as it is with any weapon using AA, in a tactical shooter AA shouldn't even be a thing and the argument that AA is necessary for hit detection may have been true in the past but it surely is not anymore so remove it then we can see what weapons really are OP and UP
Fair points. Some we agree on others no so much.
I'd be far more inclined to take nerfs as well if there were more Amarr content but at this point we're still the hated children.... mainly because it would give players like me room to use a wider variety of weapons.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:49:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D I kinda get the feeling that you've never used the TAR, not to mention that there is a very obvious difference in range and lets see which one of the two kicks a hell of a lot more lets also take into account that a TAR cannot charge a shot to deal massive amounts of damge to both shields and armor for a preemptive strike I may be wrong here but I'm pretty sure the TAR has far more drawbacks then the ScR and even the AScR and when it comes to range and dealing with its intended target, any of the amarr weapons do a far better job even with taking down armor in most cases but sure the ScR isn't OP in fact it does what it supposed to, but that doesn't mean that other things aren't UP or OP compared to it, shields need a buff along with that AR's need a buff to compensate, and native passive armor reps need a buff as well in my opinion, the RR gets beat out at range by many rifles due to its terrible kick that forces the user to burst fire it this in itself should be reason enough for a buff in the form of a reduction to kick as has been stated by many, the AR does poorly against armor but is perfectly balanced with shields both need a respective buff to be on par with armor and the ScR, the ScR over performs against shields due to the fact that shields have overall less ehp but now after the nerf it took it is perfectly balanced against armor there are a lot more factors to consider when calling something OP or UP and that same reason is why I am against a direct nerf to the BP as the only real argument is the AA being too strong this is true as it is with any weapon using AA, in a tactical shooter AA shouldn't even be a thing and the argument that AA is necessary for hit detection may have been true in the past but it surely is not anymore so remove it then we can see what weapons really are OP and UP
I actually use the TAR as my main weapon on my alt that I play with at least twice a week.
Complaining about a Gallente weapon not having enough range is pretty trivial even if the difference between the two weapons is a 5m optimal
As I told True I'd be more inclined to an accuracy nerf for ads and hipfire to match the TAR
Can't counter the charge mechanic :D
The Ascr is with out a doubt OP in my opinion because of the last buff it received but the again I must say the hybrid profile of the TAR makes it a better weapon for taking down armor especially when two complex damage mods can get it a positive profile all around
The regular RR does need an ads buff but the assault version needs a hipfire nerf... That thing just doesn't climb when you hipfire
I agree with everything else... Except native repair but that's a different thread.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Exodeon Salviej
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:34:00 -
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I have reason to beleive that everybody who read this post took this post in the wrong direction. What I had posted, which was entirely just a joke, seems to be misconstrued into the classic, "OP/UP debate" which NEVER ends. So...yeah, that happened.
Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.
Commandoooo punch! >:D
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:57:00 -
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I like to walk up cloaked behind people in my dragon scout suit and let off a laser light show.
Because team fortress 2 taught me that when your gun shoots lasers,people will die, brutally and most likely for my amusement.
And scramblers just seem op. You have to take in reality of the fact that running straight at one while the weilder either has a really good trigger finger(or turbo control, shame on you if you do this,I love melting people with my natural trigger finger and getting hatemail/accusations of turbo) you're probably gonna die. Painfully.
Reminds me of that time i got put on the opposing side against the third rock guy named fish sticks24 and he tried to run up behind me with a assault mk.0 and a shotgun . the turn on was fast and he died even faster. All 800ehp got melted in milliseconds.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:31:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Scrambler rifle is OP and you know it!!! Even if the TAR has the same RoF and more damage against armor!!! And don't even get me started of tripple damage modded ScR's even though you can do that on a Gallente Assault with a TAR and have positive damage against all HP types but still the ScR is OP because it does a charge shot that really isn't worth using because you'd be better off spamming regular shots to achieve higher damage*gasp* BUUUUT what about that Amarr Assault bonus?!?!? That's OP to right?!?! No it allows me to shoot the same amount of shots as the TAR!!! But buut Nocturnal a laser profile weapon shouldn't do that much damage to armor!!! Well that's because its a single fire weapon and I sure as hell don't see y'all bitching about the TAR.
Just wanted to answer all the Scr OP people before they arrive :D
Do not tell them that the TAR is OP!
I really don't want the next FotM to be Anti-Shield again.
It is slightly OP though, the TAR I mean.
So is the ScR, but it's the Charge + 7 Follow Up shots in the span of 3 seconds that make it that way.
Anyhow, I do love my AScR, been using it since it was Under Powered.
VF Diplomat.
Basically, I clean up the political shit the other's make.
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