I think that first map is way too big.

more room for activities

first off that link shows the old map not the current one

second allowing players to get up the pipes without having to fly a drop ship was a smart move as many player would camp up there anyway making it hard for anyone to fight back especially because on the old map there was no ladder to get up to even the top of the platform and the objective was either in favor of one side or the other, making those matches completely unbalanced

third the fact that both sides can do the same thing with the point being on equal grounds is a fair thing to do, if you have trouble with "campers" all you have to do is pull out a sniper rifle go into the enemy side of the map, get a good vantage point and snipe them off, fairly easy most people just stand still up there until you start killing off a few

fourth, they can be removed by orbital strikes and minor flux strikes work well to remove any of their equipment if you cant hit them then you need to work on placement

I can go on but if you cant find any other way then just take a drop ship up there and remove them from the spot, claim it for your team and if you see any more red coming take them out, effectively zoning them out of the vantage point and removing the threat of these so called "campers", they aren't doing much up there to help their team win unless your team is competently incompetent including yourself, sometimes all it takes to win on that map is flipping the point as everyone seems to be too scared to even approach it most of the time

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG02_dom.jpg

this one, for starters. You need to remove the pipes COMPLETELY!
Every game, half the team sits on the pipes. Rooftop camp after rooftop camp i just leave every time i get it because the gameplay is pure horse shit on that map. Go over the enemy side of the objective and you get showered by rail rifle and mass driver fire from camping scrubs. You can't OB the camping spot on the pipes makes it even worse. Every other map you can call an orbital strike and decimate them for their scrub tactics. The old map was by FAR better; more intense, less camping because when you camped on that map up behind A you were in range to get shot at unlike now.

The gallente lag facility needs to be removed from the rotation and replaced with the MCC map that caused 50% of the playerbase problems unlike 100% for the gal lag map. Yes without the lag it is an epic map, but this is CCP.

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG02_dom.jpg

this one, for starters. You need to remove the pipes COMPLETELY!
Every game, half the team sits on the pipes. Rooftop camp after rooftop camp i just leave every time i get it because the gameplay is pure horse shit on that map. Go over the enemy side of the objective and you get showered by rail rifle and mass driver fire from camping scrubs. You can't OB the camping spot on the pipes makes it even worse. Every other map you can call an orbital strike and decimate them for their scrub tactics. The old map was by FAR better; more intense, less camping because when you camped on that map up behind A you were in range to get shot at unlike now.

I think that first map is way too sh itty.

F**k that dom map. Not just because of the pipe camping which happens every match, but I keep getting stuck in that f**king tiny staircase on the side of the objective. F**k that staircase.

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG02_dom.jpg

this one, for starters. You need to remove the pipes COMPLETELY!
Every game, half the team sits on the pipes. Rooftop camp after rooftop camp i just leave every time i get it because the gameplay is pure horse shit on that map. Go over the enemy side of the objective and you get showered by rail rifle and mass driver fire from camping scrubs. You can't OB the camping spot on the pipes makes it even worse. Every other map you can call an orbital strike and decimate them for their scrub tactics. The old map was by FAR better; more intense, less camping because when you camped on that map up behind A you were in range to get shot at unlike now.

The gallente lag facility needs to be removed from the rotation and replaced with the MCC map that caused 50% of the playerbase problems unlike 100% for the gal lag map. Yes without the lag it is an epic map, but this is CCP.

If you camp you lose the match, it doesn't matter wich map is it

Actually, no. There are plenty of maps that allow you to camp successful near the letter.

Everything has it's counter, people are just too lazy

Remembers me of a thread where one guy was complaining about team work and that solo players can't compete against full squads

+1, Fk this staircase. Almost every time I will slip and get stuck..then before I can respawn my blues get rekt.

As to the OP. Eqiup a Laser and fly to enemy side pipes. Once you hold their pipes with a laser, they are fk'ed.
Just fly back there over and over again if anything pushes you off (like ADS).

i once got stuck on a staircase at A using my frame's ck.0. ADS showered me with XT-1 fire even after i was terminated lmao

+1, Fk this staircase. Almost every time I will slip and get stuck..then before I can respawn my blues get rekt.

As to the OP. Eqiup a Laser and fly to enemy side pipes. Once you hold their pipes with a laser, they are fk'ed.
Just fly back there over and over again if anything pushes you off (like ADS).