DUST Search - Some tankers...

General Mosquito wrote:

Louis Domi wrote:

General Mosquito wrote:

Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:

It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in.

I'll admit that I haven't played much dom lately, but can you please post the map that you think this happens on, would make it better for discussion purposes.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread

Go there for the map images.

Boulder rim is one

I haven't played dom on that map in a long time, but in both cases you have safe spawn locations in the back of the redline.

Heck, the most likely place to shoot from, the H 10, H 11 area, you can't even call in a tank in the redline there, you have to come out onto the road. And even then, you still have to come out of the redline to get sights on the enemy redline turrets.

Does the redline on the lower portion come up as far as the H line on the map? I thought it only came up to the I line there, which would put the E line out of reach. Could be wrong though.

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Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 14:12:00 - [1] - Quote Are some of the pussiest little *** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 225	Posted - 2015.08.04 14:33:00 - [2] - Quote No different than redline snipers or rooftop campers really. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.04 14:39:00 - [3] - Quote Why would you give a damn about redline tanks? Not that they make enemy teamw win. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 14:59:00 - [4] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: No different than redline snipers or rooftop campers really. They're all *** cats imo Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:08:00 - [5] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Why would you give a damn about redline tanks? Not that they make enemy teamw win. They sat there rail sniping my teams blue berries... *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:13:00 - [6] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Why would you give a damn about redline tanks? Not that they make enemy teamw win. They sat there rail sniping my teams blue berries... You can cause more damage using a laser rifle than sniping with a rail. If your blues are, well you know the word, and they run in open they are to blame. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 162	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:17:00 - [7] - Quote Except for the very few aggressive snipers that can manage 30+ kills some how from a point of relative safety their all pretty useless. Most get 5-10 kills by the end of the match and maybe 500+ Wp if you factor in kill assist. You can do better than that with a frontline starter fit. Sure your KD won't be as good but very few matches come down to clones any ways so going 10/10 with a starter fit does more for your team than some sniper. After all your at least drawing enemy fire and making them waste bullets and time to kill you. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:24:00 - [8] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: Except for the very few aggressive snipers that can manage 30+ kills some how from a point of relative safety their all pretty useless. Most get 5-10 kills by the end of the match and maybe 500+ Wp if you factor in kill assist. You can do better than that with a frontline starter fit. Sure your KD won't be as good but very few matches come down to clones any ways so going 10/10 with a starter fit does more for your team than some sniper. After all your at least drawing enemy fire and making them waste bullets and time to kill you. Problem I feel is that there is no real way to kill these guys. (Other than a Pin point accurate group of 5-6 Proto Breach FG all damage modded to the max Aiming and Shooting all in unison) Get one shot off and they will just sneak back behind the mountain they are on. Which is a great disadvantage for my team seeing as how our team cannot bring any more vehicles onto the field without being slapped in the face by these *** cats. Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 163	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:29:00 - [9] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Problem I feel is that there is no real way to kill these guys. (Other than a Pin point accurate group of 5-6 Proto Breach FG all damage modded to the max Aiming and Shooting all in unison) Get one shot off and they will just sneak back behind the mountain they are on. Which is a great disadvantage for my team seeing as how our team cannot bring any more vehicles onto the field without being slapped in the face by these ***** cats. Oh yes their quite hard to kill, unless your able to save up a major laser strike just to kill them. Which while satisfying is generally a waste and won't help your team win. Suicide drop ship crashes might take some out, especially if you slap on some remotes like a LAV. If you can get there without being blown up of course and can ram a ground object accurately. Look at the bright side range of a rail gun isn't that great and most maps the red line is to far from the action to be much of a threat. Good proto tanks in general are a pain. Not that you can't kill them but it takes 2-3 guys to do so and a dedicated effort to kill that one guy. It would be better if tanks required crews to operate so it would be an even use of resources. But at least you can easily see a tank on the map. Thale snipers can be 450m+ away and good luck at finding them before they blow your head off. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:32:00 - [10] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: Except for the very few aggressive snipers that can manage 30+ kills some how from a point of relative safety their all pretty useless. Most get 5-10 kills by the end of the match and maybe 500+ Wp if you factor in kill assist. You can do better than that with a frontline starter fit. Sure your KD won't be as good but very few matches come down to clones any ways so going 10/10 with a starter fit does more for your team than some sniper. After all your at least drawing enemy fire and making them waste bullets and time to kill you. Problem I feel is that there is no real way to kill these guys. (Other than a Pin point accurate group of 5-6 Proto Breach FG all damage modded to the max Aiming and Shooting all in unison) Get one shot off and they will just sneak back behind the mountain they are on. Which is a great disadvantage for my team seeing as how our team cannot bring any more vehicles onto the field without being slapped in the face by these *** cats. If your team would had a tanker, he will manage to destroy them (unless they are in mountains where they can hide after first shot) Once again, they can be annoying but they won't prevent your team from winning. Just stick close to structures out of their veiw. There is plenty near objectives. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User**

General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 227	Posted - 2015.08.04 15:43:00 - [11] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Problem I feel is that there is no real way to kill these guys. (Other than a Pin point accurate group of 5-6 Proto Breach FG all damage modded to the max Aiming and Shooting all in unison) Get one shot off and they will just sneak back behind the mountain they are on. Which is a great disadvantage for my team seeing as how our team cannot bring any more vehicles onto the field without being slapped in the face by these ***** cats. First, there is no map in the game where you can shoot from your own redline into the enemies, so there is nothing stopping your team from calling in tanks. Second, on most maps(Ashland is an exception) a redline tanker can only cover a single flag, so they will have no outcome on the result of the battle. Third, chasing a tanker that doesn't impact your odds of winning in the hopes of some WP is not terribly bright. Why not just let him hang out up there, stay 300 m away, and let him bore himself to death shooting installations? A redline tanker is not a disadvantage for you team, it is a benefit, the guy won't be helpful to his team, won't come out to play, be happy that it is 16 v 15. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 221	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:03:00 - [12] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Are some of the pussiest little ***** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening better than the game I had earlier, 3 tanks literally sitting on top of each on the bridge map, backed up by TWO turret campers and TWO snipers. game is full of cowards
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 227	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:08:00 - [13] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Are some of the pussiest little ***** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening better than the game I had earlier, 3 tanks literally sitting on top of each on the bridge map, backed up by TWO turret campers and TWO snipers. game is full of cowards If it was a domination it sounds like they were playing to win while you were busy crying about e-bushido. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 893	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:10:00 - [14] - Quote In ever FPS online ever, there are always little kids who want to exploit or do the cheapest thing to get kills. It's because they can't play the game like a normal person, if they suck, how do you expect them to get kills and not die a whole bunch? lol @ fake KDR :P The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 227	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:16:00 - [15] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: In ever FPS online ever, there are always little kids who want to exploit or do the cheapest thing to get kills. People who set their own rules about what is cheap are scrubs and losing is their forte. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:35:00 - [16] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Problem I feel is that there is no real way to kill these guys. (Other than a Pin point accurate group of 5-6 Proto Breach FG all damage modded to the max Aiming and Shooting all in unison) Get one shot off and they will just sneak back behind the mountain they are on. Which is a great disadvantage for my team seeing as how our team cannot bring any more vehicles onto the field without being slapped in the face by these *** cats. First, there is no map in the game where you can shoot from your own redline into the enemies, so there is nothing stopping your team from calling in tanks. Second, on most maps(Ashland is an exception) a redline tanker can only cover a single flag, so they will have no outcome on the result of the battle. Third, chasing a tanker that doesn't impact your odds of winning in the hopes of some WP is not terribly bright. Why not just let him hang out up there, stay 300 m away, and let him bore himself to death shooting installations? A redline tanker is not a disadvantage for you team, it is a benefit, the guy won't be helpful to his team, won't come out to play, be happy that it is 16 v 15. Domination condenses the map to a point where some maps I could Shoot from my redline and end up hitting someone from the enemies redline... Not even kidding Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 164	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:42:00 - [17] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: In ever FPS online ever, there are always little kids who want to exploit or do the cheapest thing to get kills. It's because they can't play the game like a normal person, if they suck, how do you expect them to get kills and not die a whole bunch? lol @ fake KDR :P I'd hardly call tanks the cheapest way to get kills. Militia scout suit with a militia shotgun is pretty great at getting kills with no money or SP invested into it. For little more bang for your buck add in at least one point into demolitions to get remote explosives and your killing like a boss for next to nothing. While a tanker might spend what 30 mil Sp to get to proto level? Those free Serpent scout suits really showed how people with no SP can kill like a beast with a shotgun and some remotes lol. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 230	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:43:00 - [18] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Domination condenses the map to a point where some maps I could Shoot from my redline and end up hitting someone from the enemies redline... Not even kidding Which map? Boulder Rim? Nope Fracture Road? Nope Boarder Gulch? Nope Skim Junction? Nope Impact Ridge? Nope Spine Crescent? Nope Line Harvest? Nope Iron Delta? Nope Ashland, the tanks don't have the range to reach from redline to redline, but it is pretty close. Manus is the only one where there is a chance of that happening, but because the lower side can spawn behind the hill, it isn't practical. So yeah, you are kidding, or you have never driven a rail tank. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:47:00 - [19] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Domination condenses the map to a point where some maps I could Shoot from my redline and end up hitting someone from the enemies redline... Not even kidding Which map? Boulder Rim? Nope Fracture Road? Nope Boarder Gulch? Nope Skim Junction? Nope Impact Ridge? Nope Spine Crescent? Nope Line Harvest? Nope Iron Delta? Nope Ashland, the tanks don't have the range to reach from redline to redline, but it is pretty close. Manus is the only one where there is a chance of that happening, but because the lower side can spawn behind the hill, it isn't practical. So yeah, you are kidding, or you have never driven a rail tank. Let me get some pictures and I'll tell you. One such map that automatically comes to mind is the Caldari map where the objective is underground. *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 164	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:50:00 - [20] - Quote It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"

General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 230	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:50:00 - [21] - Quote http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG01_Dom.jpg That one? The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 230	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:52:00 - [22] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in. I'll admit that I haven't played much dom lately, but can you please post the map that you think this happens on, would make it better for discussion purposes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread Go there for the map images. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:53:00 - [23] - Quote [quote=General Mosquito]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG01_Dom.jpg That one? [/quote Nah that's the Gallente facility I'm talking about the newer Caldari facility *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 230	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:57:00 - [24] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: [quote=General Mosquito]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65131/1/MN_Craters01_BG01_Dom.jpg That one? [/quote Nah that's the Gallente facility I'm talking about the newer Caldari facility The socket doesn't change the redline. Don't look at the large socket, it can always change. The underlying map is what determines the redlines. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 16:57:00 - [25] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in. I'll admit that I haven't played much dom lately, but can you please post the map that you think this happens on, would make it better for discussion purposes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread Go there for the map images. Boulder rim is one *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 230	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:04:00 - [26] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in. I'll admit that I haven't played much dom lately, but can you please post the map that you think this happens on, would make it better for discussion purposes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread Go there for the map images. Boulder rim is one I haven't played dom on that map in a long time, but in both cases you have safe spawn locations in the back of the redline. Heck, the most likely place to shoot from, the H 10, H 11 area, you can't even call in a tank in the redline there, you have to come out onto the road. And even then, you still have to come out of the redline to get sights on the enemy redline turrets. Does the redline on the lower portion come up as far as the H line on the map? I thought it only came up to the I line there, which would put the E line out of reach. Could be wrong though. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:07:00 - [27] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Louis Domi wrote: General Mosquito wrote: Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: It's not a great view with a very narrow range of fire but I know for a fact you can often take out installations from one red line to the other. A few Dom/Aqu maps you can hope into a rail turret within your red line and take out a few turrets in the enemies. It's the easiest way I get the kill XXX installation missions when I have to. It is however very close to the edge of your red line, close enough enemy scouts and such can easily run in and kill you and get back out. So not the 100m+ red line that people feel truly safe in. I'll admit that I haven't played much dom lately, but can you please post the map that you think this happens on, would make it better for discussion purposes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread Go there for the map images. Boulder rim is one I haven't played dom on that map in a long time, but in both cases you have safe spawn locations in the back of the redline. Heck, the most likely place to shoot from, the H 10, H 11 area, you can't even call in a tank in the redline there, you have to come out onto the road. And even then, you still have to come out of the redline to get sights on the enemy redline turrets. Does the redline on the lower portion come up as far as the H line on the map? I thought it only came up to the I line there, which would put the E line out of reach. Could be wrong though. I added more maps on the edit btw. *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
CUSE TOWN333 0uter.Heaven 2	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:11:00 - [28] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Are some of the pussiest little ***** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening you must not have played before they nerfed the range of the rail down to 300. CBM
Louis Domi Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:18:00 - [29] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Are some of the pussiest little *** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening you must not have played before they nerfed the range of the rail down to 300. Been here since Open beta, Was here when they nerfed it. Was happy they nerfed it. Happier when they nerfed the missile installations range and lock on stuff.. You so much as looked at one of those wrong and they shot at you around the entire match... with I think Infinite range. They used to get me from their redline to my redline in that map spine crescent. was too much... and Accurate too Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:28:00 - [30] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Are some of the pussiest little ***** cats you're ever going to see... I see two proto tanks fitted with the Rail just sat in their redline for the majority of the game... Sickening Railguns require aim, so just keep moving. Don't complain about something you can't be bothered to keep in mind. PS3 is back in its box.



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