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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.04 00:34:00 -
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The only thing the assault rifle needs is a bit more damage, maybe one or 1.5 more damage points per level, and a little bit more rate of fire, maybe 30-50rpm more. After spending lots of time with the kalante and seeing the assault rifles true power in action, then using a pro assault rifle, you can clearly see where the yhe assault rifles "become bad". I find it mostly in its rof. It was bugged to 70 rounds long ago. Now it needs a little rof buff and a little bit of damage.
If you do any more than 1-1.5 more damage and 30-50rpm more, I will consider the assault rifle op.
doing so will make them closer to the officer variants, EXCEPT THE KRINS. When buffing the assault rifles, don't forget to buff the krins damage. To 35 is enough.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:03:00 -
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Look at Kalante's stats. It has superb damage and rof but yet it somehow lacks to other guns.
Damage is not exactly the answer.
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:04:00 -
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ROF buff on the assault rifle will do it some much needed justice
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:07:00 -
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My pwning fit is comprised of 10+ passive armor rep, ion pistol and assault rifle. the AR is fine if you can use it.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:10:00 -
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Considering the RoF tends to be changed by the server slightly, I'm not enthusiastic about it. I think it needs more damage between 0-30 meters. A gradual decrease in damage. The AR should be the most devastating Rifle in close quarters, just like the Rail Rifle owns long range.
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:10:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:My pwning fit is comprised of 10+ passive armor rep, ion pistol and assault rifle. the AR is fine if you can use it.
Compared to other assault variants though? It's severely outclassed. One good example is the assault rail, second would be the assault scrambler. These two are demons
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:33:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:The AR is fine if you can use it.
The ARR is great even if you suck lol! The CR can be mastered in a day, and you'll be watching your KD climb excessively! The Scrambler is actually a difficult one to master (not the assault version), but once you do you're a demon!
I've been playing with the AR for 3 f****** years, and it's a struggle still?! I find myself in firefights saying "you're kidding me! He didn't go down?!"
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:36:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Cloak Dog wrote:The AR is fine if you can use it. The ARR is great even if you suck lol! The CR can be mastered in a day, and you'll be watching your KD climb excessively! The Scrambler is actually a difficult one to master (not the assault version), but once you do you're a demon! I've been playing with the AR for 3 f****** years, and it's a struggle still?! I find myself in firefights saying "you're kidding me! He didn't go down?!"
I would say at least use two Enhaced Damage Modifers. If possible use one enhaced and one complex. Add on an Enhaced plate and two Complex Ferroscale.
That's the fit I run and it tends to work well. Though, I agree if I changed the AR to a CR it would be much more versatile.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.08.04 03:02:00 -
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best way to fix ar would be change the damage profile to +5% vs shields and -5% to armour that way it acts as a true hybrid weapon/ slight decrease in dps against shields but more vs armour which evens it out.
AR becomes much better and the stats are the same and everybody wins.
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.08.04 03:10:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:My pwning fit is comprised of 10+ passive armor rep, ion pistol and assault rifle. the AR is fine if you can use it.
I know the reason people want a buff to the AR but it wont fix anything in the armor meta, I agree that it is lacking in many aspects but it sure isn't at what its supposed to do, the extra reps helps with ranged engagements but the AR in CQC has to deal with armor mainly meaning it naturally wont do as well, and when it comes to engaging shields at range you are better off using a laser rifle or Scrambler rifle
the premise to buff AR's is completely off it should be buffed but in respect to shields being reworked to be more viable in the current meta, as it stand the AR is balanced to shields fairly well but it is in fact under powered against armor compared to the ScR and AScR which should be the worst against armor
if we were to buff the AR now it would be completely unfair against shields and would still lack against armor compared to other weapons, buffing the range takes away from its intended role so i would advice against that, but I am all for adding utility to make it perform better such as a scope and making the dispersion even tighter
if shield are buffed then of course the AR should be buffed along with them
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.08.04 04:08:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:best way to fix ar would be change the damage profile to +5% vs shields and -5% to armour that way it acts as a true hybrid weapon/ slight decrease in dps against shields but more vs armour which evens it out.
AR becomes much better and the stats are the same and everybody wins.
This makes a ton of sense! This way shields don't suffer!
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2015.08.04 06:51:00 -
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Never really liked the ar with its "ttttttttttttt" too noisy that's why it shouldn't be buffed
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.08.04 07:44:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:best way to fix ar would be change the damage profile to +5% vs shields and -5% to armour that way it acts as a true hybrid weapon/ slight decrease in dps against shields but more vs armour which evens it out.
AR becomes much better and the stats are the same and everybody wins.
Yeah no.
Profiles that tight need to never be a thing.
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Count- -Crotchula
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:40:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:My pwning fit is comprised of 10+ passive armor rep, ion pistol and assault rifle. the AR is fine if you can use it.
my pwning fit is viziam laser rifle, 3 complex damage mods, 20+ passive rep, 700 armour! I love watching groups of protostomping nubs run in fear. |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:06:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:My pwning fit is comprised of 10+ passive armor rep, ion pistol and assault rifle. the AR is fine if you can use it.
I know what you mean. Before I started using the kalante, I would wreck with the duvolle. But after spending some time with the kalante, using its true power, the duvolle did not feel right and I could see where it dos start to lack power. All o see it needs as a little more damage and rpm. With this, it will be deadly at cqc.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:26:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Look at Kalante's stats. It has superb damage and rof but yet it somehow lacks to other guns.
Damage is not exactly the answer.
WTF HAVE YOU used it??? I went head to head a couple times with someone with a ghalags rr and a Luis cr and I DESTROYED HIM.
Which is exactly what the assault rifle should do. This thing can go through heavies in like 2 seconds. The moment you begin to fire, shields are OBLITERATED AND IT CHEWS THROUGH ARMOR SO FAST YOU DINT EVEN KNOW IT HAS A DAMAGE REDUCTION TO ARMOR.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:42:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:best way to fix ar would be change the damage profile to +5% vs shields and -5% to armour that way it acts as a true hybrid weapon/ slight decrease in dps against shields but more vs armour which evens it out.
AR becomes much better and the stats are the same and everybody wins.
Not needed and that is seen in the kalante. All it needs is some rpm and damage.
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC.
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:30:00 -
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It doesnt need more dmg issue that allot of people have is guess what most of community armor based so yea a shield weapon not knocking down armor hp fast means its working as intended shoot a shield based character watch how fast it drops
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.08.04 14:31:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Never really liked the ar with its "ttttttttttttt" too noisy that's why it shouldn't be buffed
"I don't like it therefore it shouldn't be buff"
Whatever you say princess
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Racro 01 Arifistan
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Posted - 2015.08.05 09:14:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:best way to fix ar would be change the damage profile to +5% vs shields and -5% to armour that way it acts as a true hybrid weapon/ slight decrease in dps against shields but more vs armour which evens it out.
AR becomes much better and the stats are the same and everybody wins. Yeah no. Profiles that tight need to never be a thing.
so its like how even though it has -15 and +15 the CR and its vasrients are still able to mutilate a shield suit due to its sheer rate of fire. where as the shortest ranged light weapon still shows up underhanded against the other races assault weapons since they either have 1. higher rof (assault cr), 2.higher base damage (assault scram) or 3.(higher accuracy( assault rail) and 4. better range (every other weapon).
since the ar's stats are not being touched only the damage profile its dps stays relatively the same. needless to say back in beta WHEN it did have +5 and -5 it still wasn't all that OP it was the nice weapon good for any situation. then other racial wepaons came along and simply outclassed it everywhere.,
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