DUST Search - EVE: Gunjack reveal trailer

Vrain Matari wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

LOL

Valkyrie ripped on to mobile. Good to see what CCP Shanghai has been so hard at work on. I am guessing Shanghai since they were the one advertising for an unreal 4 programmer with experience in VR.

If you have no interest in VR you may as well give up on CCP now. From an outside perspective one could easily believe they are putting all of their eggs in the VR basket. I wonder if they realize how many times VR has failed before and that only a niche market of today's consumer really cares about that level of immersion.

CCP's future is in VR, and it should be - a virtual universe is central to what drives CCP's vision.

That future, however, depends on something far more fundamental than the interface: New Eden. If they're moronic enough to forget that basic fact then their future is in selling off IP, technologies, patents etc. when they're forced to close up shop.

New Eden is not lore. Pretty models and yelling 'Abbadon' completely misses the point - New Eden is about dynamic game systems that allow players to create content, about persistence and real geopolitics, about a virtual market worthy of real-world academic study and strategic resources that are more than a trivial & transparent game mechanic.

With all of these game concepts that CCP are exploring, they're forgetting what made them and what puts food on their tables. This is particularly true for Dust: Naming dropsuits with an eye to the lore is well and fine, but also totally irrelevant. New Eden style game dynamics(that does not automatically mean directly influencing EVE, for all the apologist fanboys who will helpfully jump in to explain that to us) are the only thing that give Dust any relevance at all it the gaming world - daily missions and achievements and various currencies/stores do nothing to move the game from 'a curious oddity with a fringe playerbase' to 'a game-changing addition to the shooter genre'.

I'm hugely interested in VR(tho imo AR is already the winner), but CCP's 'charge!' into VR is premature. All the time spent on VR would have been better spend on deepening the reality, dynamics, procedural depth and social tools inherent in the New Eden universe.

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DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 13:43:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2aruO5jAY why? honestly?
Alaika Arbosa No Context 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 13:49:00 - [2] - Quote looks like it could be fun to play on my phone while waiting places. IDK if it is the type of thing I'd spend money on, but if it is a simple phone app game, I'd probably download it I <3 introducing reddots to ragdoll physics!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 13:53:00 - [3] - Quote >mining barge >turret that destroys battlecruisers in 2 shots >turret that destroys 7 frigates with a single shot wat AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:00:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: >mining barge >turret that destroys battlecruisers in 2 shots >turret that destroys 7 frigates with a single shot wat where did they find the time and resources for that in the first place? has dust really been put so far on the back burner that CCP would rather invest in mobile apps?
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:01:00 - [5] - Quote CCP likes to abandon years old projects in favor of chasing the new shiny trends that might make them money. They literally took all our support away and almost immediately threw it at the Valk team, because VR is probably going to be more popular. They're like a big kid with ADD and too much money. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:05:00 - [6] - Quote Waiting for the EVE connectionGÇª MY CPM2 PLATFORM
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 14:12:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Waiting for the EVE connectionGÇª Grab a chair, an IV, and a catheter, it's gonna be a while. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:22:00 - [8] - Quote It's like eve Valkyrie- so what's the point??? CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
Pierced Daddy myrtle beach leap frogz 352	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:27:00 - [9] - Quote RIP DUST514
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:28:00 - [10] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: It's like eve Valkyrie- so what's the point??? What's the point? More cash is the point. At least more cash than dust according to ccp Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:33:00 - [11] - Quote LOL Valkyrie ripped on to mobile. Good to see what CCP Shanghai has been so hard at work on. I am guessing Shanghai since they were the one advertising for an unreal 4 programmer with experience in VR. If you have no interest in VR you may as well give up on CCP now. From an outside perspective one could easily believe they are putting all of their eggs in the VR basket. I wonder if they realize how many times VR has failed before and that only a niche market of today's consumer really cares about that level of immersion. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:46:00 - [12] - Quote If only CCP didn't ** up dust so badly then we would have at the very least twice the amount of players than now. I would also go to Hilmar and beat him to ** with the wads of cash I have been saving up for this game Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 499	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:47:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Waiting for the EVE connectionGÇª The most laggest app for smartphone ever !!! so NOP !!! -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:56:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: >mining barge >turret that destroys battlecruisers in 2 shots >turret that destroys 7 frigates with a single shot wat As soon as i saw powerups in the 'Eve Universe' it was over - went straight to the comments and now i'll never have to look at lolGunjack again. PSN: RationalSpark
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:06:00 - [15] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Cat Merc wrote: >mining barge >turret that destroys battlecruisers in 2 shots >turret that destroys 7 frigates with a single shot wat As soon as i saw powerups in the 'Eve Universe' it was over - went straight to the comments and now i'll never have to look at lolGunjack again. I agree. This game doesn't fit the New Eden universe. So what's the idea, you duct-tape your cellphone to your face? What a waste. Best PvE idea ever!
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:23:00 - [16] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: LOL Valkyrie ripped on to mobile. Good to see what CCP Shanghai has been so hard at work on. I am guessing Shanghai since they were the one advertising for an unreal 4 programmer with experience in VR. If you have no interest in VR you may as well give up on CCP now. From an outside perspective one could easily believe they are putting all of their eggs in the VR basket. I wonder if they realize how many times VR has failed before and that only a niche market of today's consumer really cares about that level of immersion. CCP's future is in VR, and it should be - a virtual universe is central to what drives CCP's vision. That future, however, depends on something far more fundamental than the interface: New Eden. If they're moronic enough to forget that basic fact then their future is in selling off IP, technologies, patents etc. when they're forced to close up shop. New Eden is not lore. Pretty models and yelling 'Abbadon' completely misses the point - New Eden is about dynamic game systems that allow players to create content, about persistence and real geopolitics, about a virtual market worthy of real-world academic study and strategic resources that are more than a trivial & transparent game mechanic. With all of these game concepts that CCP are exploring, they're forgetting what made them and what puts food on their tables. This is particularly true for Dust: Naming dropsuits with an eye to the lore is well and fine, but also totally irrelevant. New Eden style game dynamics(that does not automatically mean directly influencing EVE, for all the apologist fanboys who will helpfully jump in to explain that to us) are the only thing that give Dust any relevance at all it the gaming world - daily missions and achievements and various currencies/stores do nothing to move the game from 'a curious oddity with a fringe playerbase' to 'a game-changing addition to the shooter genre'. I'm hugely interested in VR(tho imo AR is already the winner), but CCP's 'charge!' into VR is premature. All the time spent on VR would have been better spend on deepening the reality, dynamics, procedural depth and social tools inherent in the New Eden universe. PSN: RationalSpark
Void Echo Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC 3	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:28:00 - [17] - Quote It looks like a dumbed down version of valkyrie that belongs on the phone, on any case, can confirm that gun jack is not replacing dust 514 Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC. Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Void Echo Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC 3	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:31:00 - [18] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: deezy dabest wrote: LOL Valkyrie ripped on to mobile. Good to see what CCP Shanghai has been so hard at work on. I am guessing Shanghai since they were the one advertising for an unreal 4 programmer with experience in VR. If you have no interest in VR you may as well give up on CCP now. From an outside perspective one could easily believe they are putting all of their eggs in the VR basket. I wonder if they realize how many times VR has failed before and that only a niche market of today's consumer really cares about that level of immersion. CCP's future is in VR, and it should be - a virtual universe is central to what drives CCP's vision. That future, however, depends on something far more fundamental than the interface: New Eden. If they're moronic enough to forget that basic fact then their future is in selling off IP, technologies, patents etc. when they're forced to close up shop. New Eden is not lore. Pretty models and yelling 'Abbadon' completely misses the point - New Eden is about dynamic game systems that allow players to create content, about persistence and real geopolitics, about a virtual market worthy of real-world academic study and strategic resources that are more than a trivial & transparent game mechanic. With all of these game concepts that CCP are exploring, they're forgetting what made them and what puts food on their tables. This is particularly true for Dust: Naming dropsuits with an eye to the lore is well and fine, but also totally irrelevant. New Eden style game dynamics(that does not automatically mean directly influencing EVE, for all the apologist fanboys who will helpfully jump in to explain that to us) are the only thing that give Dust any relevance at all it the gaming world - daily missions and achievements and various currencies/stores do nothing to move the game from 'a curious oddity with a fringe playerbase' to 'a game-changing addition to the shooter genre'. I'm hugely interested in VR(tho imo AR is already the winner), but CCP's 'charge!' into VR is premature. All the time spent on VR would have been better spend on deepening the reality, dynamics, procedural depth and social tools inherent in the New Eden universe. You are literally the only person who thinks like that Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC. Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:23:00 - [19] - Quote Why did this remind of the game Galaga?? Like really anyone else get that vibe from how the enemies moved in formation? Galaga in First person mode? *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:29:00 - [20] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: LOL Valkyrie ripped on to mobile. Good to see what CCP Shanghai has been so hard at work on. I am guessing Shanghai since they were the one advertising for an unreal 4 programmer with experience in VR. If you have no interest in VR you may as well give up on CCP now. From an outside perspective one could easily believe they are putting all of their eggs in the VR basket. I wonder if they realize how many times VR has failed before and that only a niche market of today's consumer really cares about that level of immersion. After I've seen various anime where the main character gets trapped in a virtual reality. I'm sticking with controllers.. *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*

Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:37:00 - [21] - Quote Opening more doors in is smart. It allows them to reuse assets. But,i could've sworn Gun Jack looked alot different the last time i saw him. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.08.03 18:44:00 - [22] - Quote Meee One wrote: Opening more doors in is smart. It allows them to reuse assets. But,i could've sworn Gun Jack looked alot different the last time i saw him. That entire game is pretty much one big reused asset, plus power ups. I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease Swarms *everywhere*. So-bittervet


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