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Sly Marb0
Scrub Squad F5ed
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:12:00 -
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Let's face it, matchmaking has made public matches the weakest link in Dust. What if we just made squads only for Factional and PC?
Hear me out, it would force people to use the Team chat and you would be able to coordinate with Blueberries as everyone would be in the same coms channel. The biggest issue is the lack of communication in public matches. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:19:00 -
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Sly Marb0 wrote:Let's face it, matchmaking has made public matches the weakest link in Dust. What if we just made squads only for Factional and PC?
Hear me out, it would force people to use the Team chat and you would be able to coordinate with Blueberries as everyone would be in the same coms channel. The biggest issue is the lack of communication in public matches.
get the F*ck out
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Sly Marb0
Scrub Squad F5ed
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:34:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Sly Marb0 wrote:Let's face it, matchmaking has made public matches the weakest link in Dust. What if we just made squads only for Factional and PC?
Hear me out, it would force people to use the Team chat and you would be able to coordinate with Blueberries as everyone would be in the same coms channel. The biggest issue is the lack of communication in public matches. get the F*ck out
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Remor de Mef
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
26
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:27:00 -
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It's bad idea. Many players can't freely speak english, many players don't have mics. |
Sly Marb0
Scrub Squad F5ed
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:33:00 -
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If they aren't on Mic they can still hear those who are. As for English, it's not like they don't speak at all nor are they alone.
It's not like coordination would be gone, it would just make public matches more public oriented instead of being sandbox for people bored with factional.
A lot of the match making imbalances seem to be multiple squads on one side fighting randoms and a couple high MU players. |
Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
737
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:45:00 -
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Remor de Mef wrote:It's bad idea. Many players can't freely speak english, many players don't have mics.
you know CCP is an islandic based company and the biggest population of dust is that of Hispanic and Latin Americans?
I agree on it being a bad idea but using English as the barrier doesn't justify that
the simplest solution would be to incorporate the rest of the team into the squad without directly having to be a part of it
what I mean is this, squad leads have commands that can be given to their squad mates to coordinate without even having to give verbal commands
therefore give basic commands to everyone else such as the attack command that may be used to spot targets, it would be really good for snipers to give support from a safe distance while moving around the map to get vantage points to take out priority targets and same goes for scouts
another command could be in the form of a support or call support
a logi could identify their role by calling out that they have ammo or a rep tool and mark a spot on the map that others can fall back to for support or a small icon could appear above their name with the equipment being carried, as such a command could be put in place to call for support (I need ammo, I need rep ect)
communication is essential for the team to work as one, a solo player could identify themselves and let their team what they are doing the support commands could help logis do a better job instead of being a leash for heavies
these simple commands can be placed in the same scroll wheel that squad leads have but instead be made available to everyone
other commands could be implemented as the need arises (marking AV for vehicles, marking a target player as a threat not attack command more of a warning to other players that may be less skilled, calling for suppression support cover fire or other tactics)
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Taeyeon Seyun
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:54:00 -
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Bad Idea. Like some already said, we all don't speak the same language, have mics, or even may not even use the team chat. You would also be putting up with a lot of trolls, and listening to someone's tv/music because they have the volume to high.(pet peeve of mine.) This game is centered around squad play and should be encourged more. I agree we need to improve pubs, like getting rid of Dom...>.> <.<, Meta lock matches etc. I don't think getting rid of squading is an answer to the problem.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 20:59:00 -
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I am opposed.
Perhaps eventually a FFA version of ambush could work, but removing squads entirely wouldn't be ideal.
Dust is a team based game. I'd rather have matchmaking improved than just removing teamwork
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mystic 777
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:06:00 -
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I kind of like the idea of optional commands for the team - that is, if you mark a target then I can assist you without being in your squad. It leaves the option in the leader control and gives me a potential little boost in WP.
Otherwise, no thanks. As already mentioned, someone else's TV / radio / language / potty mouth are already enough of an issue that I usually turn team chat off anyways.
Pubs are already the 'beginner class', lowering the size of squads was a good move in terms of training for the big leagues. Many of us run solo for a myriad of reasons, forcing squad style play is a bad idea... |
Sly Marb0
Scrub Squad F5ed
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:07:00 -
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Just to be clear, it wouldn't remove teamwork but change the avenue in which teamwork is achieved. |
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Coincidental Jones
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.08.01 18:06:00 -
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I don't care whether they can hear me talking, I still can't trust blueberries to do a damned thing. I squad up so as to guarantee at least one person has my back, and this would be lost if everyone entered matches individually.
And that doesn't even consider the social impact of having no way to guarantee being in the same MATCH, let alone on the same side, as your friends. |
Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
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Posted - 2015.08.01 18:08:00 -
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My corp is small, just me and some friends. Usually, 4 of us play. Of course, we dont do PC, and FW is frustrating for them. Besides, we love Domination.
If squads get removed from pubs, then players like my friends and I may be left with nothing else to play that we enjoy. Sure, we could try FW, but they would eventually come to hate the game and quit. Squads in pubs have already been looked up and the four mercenaries squad is working just fine. Dont mess it up. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:47:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:I am opposed.
Perhaps eventually a FFA version of ambush could work, but removing squads entirely wouldn't be ideal.
Dust is a team based game. I'd rather have matchmaking improved than just removing teamwork
I'm with Talos on this one.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
969
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Posted - 2015.08.02 01:43:00 -
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If i can't play with my friends then im just not gonna play.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2015.08.02 04:27:00 -
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Sly Marb0 wrote:Let's face it, matchmaking has made public matches the weakest link in Dust. What if we just made squads only for Factional and PC?
Hear me out, it would force people to use the Team chat and you would be able to coordinate with Blueberries as everyone would be in the same coms channel. The biggest issue is the lack of communication in public matches.
First it was "squads are too big".
Now it's "just remove squads from pubs".
Then it'll be "remove squads from FW".
I hope CCP sees the first post,rolls their eyes and closes this thread.
I know dumb ideas (see my title).
You're after my title aren't you?
Trying to unseat me?
I'll admit,with this idea you're very close to taking it.
Official Blueberry of the Forums.
Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
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