DUST Search - Fix LAV physics for fucks sake!

Joel II X wrote:

Shadowed Cola wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason!

In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode!

Enter a socket with a Methana, explode.

Seriously... Sh*t...

eh, this is arguable.

The original physics had the LAV level out everything automatically - enabling you to go max speeds pretty much over any terrain. The new physics added *At uprising* made it so LAV's couldn't just ride wherever they pleased. CCP Logic Loop - may he be fired forever - designed the maps so that LAV can pretty much get into every nook and cranny. Before they added in these physics LAV's were monsters in the right hands.

Imagine my murder taxi that could let me just drive as fast as i wanted in any direction and be mostly assured of my escape? These physics make it so knee jerk stuff like that can send you toppling.

If you use roads, nothing to bump you around, which is what roads are for. If you off-road it - then you're supposed to bump around.

I died in a road...

When you die to nothing, there is no argument. They're supposed to be attack vehicles, but they don't even serve as proper transport.

The saga has 600 shields, 450 armor. What the hell is that? That's infantry level health!

I'm not talking about their speed physics. I'm talking about their collision detection physics. They should be like actual jeeps and have some off-road potential enough to not die whilst driving over even terrain.

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Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.30 16:54:00 - [1] - Quote I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 379	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:04:00 - [2] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... hot a pebble? Hasta yo hablo mejor ingles! Amarr Victor* Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 600	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:07:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... eh, this is arguable. The original physics had the LAV level out everything automatically - enabling you to go max speeds pretty much over any terrain. The new physics added At uprising* made it so LAV's couldn't just ride wherever they pleased. CCP Logic Loop - may he be fired forever - designed the maps so that LAV can pretty much get into every nook and cranny. Before they added in these physics LAV's were monsters in the right hands. Imagine my murder taxi that could let me just drive as fast as i wanted in any direction and be mostly assured of my escape? These physics make it so knee jerk stuff like that can send you toppling. If you use roads, nothing to bump you around, which is what roads are for. If you off-road it - then you're supposed to bump around.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:18:00 - [4] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... eh, this is arguable. The original physics had the LAV level out everything automatically - enabling you to go max speeds pretty much over any terrain. The new physics added At uprising* made it so LAV's couldn't just ride wherever they pleased. CCP Logic Loop - may he be fired forever - designed the maps so that LAV can pretty much get into every nook and cranny. Before they added in these physics LAV's were monsters in the right hands. Imagine my murder taxi that could let me just drive as fast as i wanted in any direction and be mostly assured of my escape? These physics make it so knee jerk stuff like that can send you toppling. If you use roads, nothing to bump you around, which is what roads are for. If you off-road it - then you're supposed to bump around. I died in a road... When you die to nothing, there is no argument. They're supposed to be attack vehicles, but they don't even serve as proper transport. The saga has 600 shields, 450 armor. What the hell is that? That's infantry level health! I'm not talking about their speed physics. I'm talking about their collision detection physics. They should be like actual jeeps and have some off-road potential enough to not die whilst driving over even terrain. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:20:00 - [5] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... hot a pebble? Hasta yo hablo mejor ingles! Hit. Auto correct on mobile. It's one of my most common typos, along with 'ate' for 'are'. Also, English isn't my first language. Still, though! Pebbles are too hot! They must be nerfed! It's the reason my LAVs keep in blowing up! Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 603	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:23:00 - [6] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... eh, this is arguable. The original physics had the LAV level out everything automatically - enabling you to go max speeds pretty much over any terrain. The new physics added At uprising* made it so LAV's couldn't just ride wherever they pleased. CCP Logic Loop - may he be fired forever - designed the maps so that LAV can pretty much get into every nook and cranny. Before they added in these physics LAV's were monsters in the right hands. Imagine my murder taxi that could let me just drive as fast as i wanted in any direction and be mostly assured of my escape? These physics make it so knee jerk stuff like that can send you toppling. If you use roads, nothing to bump you around, which is what roads are for. If you off-road it - then you're supposed to bump around. I died in a road... When you die to nothing, there is no argument. They're supposed to be attack vehicles, but they don't even serve as proper transport. The saga has 600 shields, 450 armor. What the hell is that? That's infantry level health! I'm not talking about their speed physics. I'm talking about their collision detection physics. They should be like actual jeeps and have some off-road potential enough to not die whilst driving over even terrain. lmao, this has happened to me so often, I took boosters off all my LAV's because I got sick of falling through the floor. And often times my LAV hits an invisible wall because the terrain didn't render evenly so i hit the tip of a just rendering terrain sending my LAV flying all over the ******* place, lol. Sometimes it just randomly blows up from it. xD
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 142	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:26:00 - [7] - Quote My biggest two issues is how easily they roll. If you even look at an uneven patch of ground you will flip. At least they seemed to have made the LAV's end right side up most of the time, and switching seats seems to flip it over without getting out if you do land on your side. The bigger issue however is the speed, it's pathetic. Very few maps have a long stretch of straight flat ground where you can really hit your top speed. The acceleration is so slow without a fuel injector you might as run if your in anything but a heavy suit. By the time the LAV"s drops in (which can take a while if there is a long que of vehicles) you'd already be at the objective. Add to that your engine has all the horse power of a lawn mower engine. Any kind of slight incline or hill and your back down to nothing in terms of speed. For all the people's arguments of this being the far future with amazing technology their cars drive like a 2 stroke diesel.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 381	Posted - 2015.07.31 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Isa Lucifer wrote: Joel II X wrote: I just did 3x die to nothing! Ride around in a saga, and I start losing health like crazy for absolutely no reason! In a Methana, hot a pebble, explode! Enter a socket with a Methana, explode. Seriously... Sht... hot a pebble? Hasta yo hablo mejor ingles! Hit. Auto correct on mobile. It's one of my most common typos, along with 'ate' for 'are'. Also, English isn't my first language. Still, though! Pebbles are too hot! They must be nerfed! It's the reason my LAVs keep in blowing up! You are a cool dude. Amarr Victor* Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 04:16:00 - [9] - Quote Hey, you can say fucks without it being censored Shields, the silent killer.
Leovarian L Lavitz Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:17:00 - [10] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: My biggest two issues is how easily they roll. If you even look at an uneven patch of ground you will flip. At least they seemed to have made the LAV's end right side up most of the time, and switching seats seems to flip it over without getting out if you do land on your side. The bigger issue however is the speed, it's pathetic. Very few maps have a long stretch of straight flat ground where you can really hit your top speed. The acceleration is so slow without a fuel injector you might as run if your in anything but a heavy suit. By the time the LAV"s drops in (which can take a while if there is a long que of vehicles) you'd already be at the objective. Add to that your engine has all the horse power of a lawn mower engine. Any kind of slight incline or hill and your back down to nothing in terms of speed. For all the people's arguments of this being the far future with amazing technology their cars drive like a 2 stroke diesel. I spend much of my lav time on two wheels. I also come to a complete stop and look both ways before entering a socket-don't want to go flying through the floor into null space and explode. You don't have to get out of your lav to flip it if it is upside down. Change seats and it will flip itself right side up. Your welcome. Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto Dueling is my specialty

I-Shayz-I I----------I 6	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:32:00 - [11] - Quote I love it when you brake hard to avoid a collision, but the momentum value doesn't actually change until you stop completely. So you barely hit the back of a HAV going like 2mph and bam, instant death. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! -- Vote for Cross!
Leovarian L Lavitz Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:34:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I love it when you brake hard to avoid a collision, but the momentum value doesn't actually change until you sto completely. So you barely hit the back of a HAV going like 2mph and bam, instant death. Jump out at the last moment, unpiloted lavs won't explode against an allied tank. Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto Dueling is my specialty
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RUST415 2	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:36:00 - [13] - Quote Squagga wrote: Hey, you can say fucks without it being censored That is what I'm taking away from this thread too. +1 for pointing out the important things :) I'm partially joking, vehicle physics needs looking at *and* being able to say fucks is wonderful. Now with more evil.
SLENDER M4N Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 863	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:47:00 - [14] - Quote With my special mind powers I can make LAVs explode just by looking at them. Yeah, they fear me Also joeltoise, esto ense+¦a que eres d+¬bil! Get ready Jadek. Mrs. Menahiem is waiting!
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 145	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:51:00 - [15] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I love it when you brake hard to avoid a collision, but the momentum value doesn't actually change until you sto completely. So you barely hit the back of a HAV going like 2mph and bam, instant death. Jump out at the last moment, unpiloted lavs won't explode against an allied tank. Unless of course for some reason you get road killed by your LAV when you jump out. Some how you appear in front of it, and die instantly despite it not going full speed. Yet when you hit an enemy at less than full speed they just take a little bit of damage. Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
Aderek Made in Poland... E-R-A 201	Posted - 2015.07.31 08:52:00 - [16] - Quote The best: you go forward, on realy good way and... rotate ;) and BUM dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net MM proto logi 80 kk SP and growing
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 605	Posted - 2015.07.31 10:51:00 - [17] - Quote Aderek wrote: The best: you go forward, on realy good way and... rotate ;) and BUM In before THIS. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Omaarion27 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 6	Posted - 2015.07.31 11:20:00 - [18] - Quote i dont even use lavs no more i use a mulitia tank rail as my form of transport this way i can ram lavs and not get blown up and its pretty fast. jump out when i see an enemy, kill ,back in tank. if a pro tanks out mulitia hardener on and fuel inject me straight to the redline. "They hate us because they Anus" CAL n GAL FTFW disagree meet me in battle n taste the RAILnPLASMA flavor
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.31 15:42:00 - [19] - Quote Squagga wrote: Hey, you can say fucks without it being censored You're welcome. Isa Lucifer wrote: You are a cool dude. Agreed. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 843	Posted - 2015.07.31 16:38:00 - [20] - Quote Do the smart kid thing and put more health on it then, stop complaining about being cheap >.> The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.31 18:19:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Do the smart kid thing and put more health on it then, stop complaining about being cheap >.> And actually spend isk on LAVs? Have you gone mad?! *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 614	Posted - 2015.07.31 19:24:00 - [22] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Do the smart kid thing and put more health on it then, stop complaining about being cheap >.> Hahaaha, now ain't that the truth? I usually stack HP and armor hardener to boot on my Methana... now other LAVs, obstacles, and even Tanks run right over me and I survive FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!


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