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Summa Militum
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:20:00 -
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A couple of days ago I acquired the 'Quafe' Plasma Cannon in a strongbox so I just decided to create a "jumpy" fit with it and hop into a Domination match to see if I can get a feel of why people like jumping around so much.
The one thing I realized after creating my "jumpy" fit and using it was that armor plates do not seem to decrease your jump height. Armor plates will slow down your sprint and movement speed because of the weight of those armor plates but the weight of those armor plates does nothing to decrease your jump height.
Is this an oversight? What logical explanation allows for me to armor tank my assault suit and jump 30 feet into the air?
Wouldn't it make sense to implement a jump height penalty to armor plates?
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:47:00 -
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Ooh keeping this thread on top I will with bumps !
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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DRAKEST HOUR
BAD ASTRONAUTS
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:58:00 -
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Ya cuz thats "tactical" Rawtitty |
Marie Cuthbert
Caldarian Fighters
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Posted - 2015.07.29 07:36:00 -
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Yeah. Excellent point. Out of all the crap that is in this game, that enhancement is so OP. Not only can the out jump you now they can jump to your and smack the **** out of you in one hit.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.29 07:53:00 -
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I support this idea.
Now with more evil.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:01:00 -
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Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now.
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rizan baig
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
80
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:27:00 -
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I support this idea!
Darth-Carbonite for CPM2!!! 1 vote is 1 cookie :)
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:47:00 -
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Dirty armour tankers. Nerf them to hell!
This is like the one jumpy nerf thread I can get down with  - Bias -
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:50:00 -
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I thought jump height was based on movement speed?
I did a full analysis of it once when trying to figure out how to jump over barriers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPnjqxwED8M
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vogon mugwump
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
100
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Posted - 2015.07.29 10:03:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Wouldn't it make sense to implement a jump height penalty to armor plates?
If it slows down running and movement in general then... YES it would make sense for it to reduce jump height or an increase to the stamina lost with a jump maybe? |
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v snake
Wolf Pack Special Forces
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:12:00 -
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Armor plates should affect mouvement speed, strafe speed, and jump height like why is it that if I put all complex plates on a sentinel I cnt jump a tiny stair heoght obsticale but if I slap myo stimulants on a min assault or cal assault it dosent matter if I put reps or plates I will always be able to hop that high up in the air. Also plates should penalize jump height n jump speed. And maybe scan profile, I mean if u put a complex plate on ur scout, thatshoulf add up to ur DBs cz tge plate should assisst in having the scanner pick up tge persob bearing it. |
Vyuru
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:46:00 -
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I thought jump height was based off of armor?
This is why my jumpy Min Ass can't jump as high as my jumpy Cal Logi which can jump almost as high as my Min Scout.
Gonna have to double check this now. |
Echo 1991
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
919
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:04:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now.
Get out. Movement speed is a drawback.
Wanna play eve?
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IVIaster LUKE
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:43:00 -
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Stacks armor plates *jumps* does a 360 ballerina spin in air. Spams area of effect Mass Driver. SPAM easy mode. Yuk, Yuk.
I be running that 'THALE' Militia BPO Dropsuit.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:44:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now.
No shields get the scan profile penalties armor gets the movement ones. That is how it works eve side and how it should work here too.
Now with more evil.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:46:00 -
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I think you are correct about this. It is pretty hard to measure jump height accurately in game but at least without myofibrils I have noticed a huge difference with plates vs without.
Now with more evil.
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:55:00 -
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Potential explanation: CCP never instated a jump penalty for armor plates because they never thought that myofibs would be tweaked in the way that they have been.
I agree, armor plates should offer some unilateral movement penalty. It should be made with heavy frames as the baseline, because they don't need to jump any less (without mods)
"For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most"
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.30 01:14:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now. Get out. Movement speed is a drawback.
Gargle some testes. I'm primarily armor based, and it isnt enough of a drawback to matter. Plus having the option to fit reactives or ferros for equal as much hp as shield, plus reps. Armor is in a superior place right now. It only makes sense that waddling around in a padded sumo suit or adding plates to what is supposed to be a silent suit would make it easier to spot, even from an Ewar standpoint, crutchmaster flex.
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.30 01:23:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now.
There are tons of draw backs. Armor reps are a mere fraction of the shield reps while armor totals are generally twice the size of shields. Without a logi your looking at a long wait for most armor. Speed is nerfed as is normal jump height I know. Not sure about how jump mods work vs armor though.
As for scan profile, it's a stupid idea. Why would armor make scan profile larger? If anything that should be a shield thing as they take energy to create and maintain, active electronics like that should increase your profile. Though that would kind of make scouts angry.
Then they'd have to choose between speed, stealth, or being completely naked. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.07.30 01:43:00 -
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Actually, I think armor plates do decrease jump height. I have an Amarr logi fit with 3 complex myos, and some armor modules, and I couldn't jump on top of certain very large crates. I then changed the fit to use only ferroscales and basic reactives because they have no penalties, and I noticed I could then jump on top of the large crate, and some Gallente medium socket building that I also couldn't jump above before.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
492
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Posted - 2015.07.30 01:50:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Armor should have penalties to anything movement based, as well as scan profile. There just arent any real drawbacks to it right now.
If anything I thought nk shield should increase sig profile and armor have a speed penalty
Have garbage gun game? Throw a Core.
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xavier zor
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:18:00 -
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all i want to say is if you depend on jumpy fits with explosives to kill people, you are a sad, sad merc
dedicated slayer
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
287
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Posted - 2015.07.30 03:27:00 -
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Your jump height is determined by your merc's BMI. If you want to jump higher, slap on some cardiac regulators and get that morning jog in your everyday routine. Why do you think one of the daily mission requirements is running a couple thousand meters? CCP is obviously trying to promote a healthy lifestyle.
You can't handle all this synergy.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.07.30 04:04:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:
Wouldn't it make sense to implement a jump height penalty to armor plates?
Makes sense to me.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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