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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:14:00 -
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I've experienced this as well. I thought I was seeing things, but yes the shot just disappears if it doesn't make contact before you die. A shot that has left the barrel should make contact regardless. Shotguns do it all the time. The rail and scrambler rifle still fire and will kill you while the enemy has long since been killed.
The plc just seems to instantly stop operating as soon as the suit is dead.
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:19:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Its an AV weapon not intended for fighting infantry. Remember when swarms dumbfired and you could kill infantry with them? If they "fix" the plc give it higher damage and lock it as an av weapon cause these jumpy scout/assaults/commandos are abusing it. So don't complain that your broken weapon is "broken" I got an infantry kill with swarms recently....fricking hilarious
Pics or it didn't happen.
Did u know: 2 complex damage mods on a quafe SL takes out a saga in 1 shot but not a Methana. I find this slightly unbalanced.
Even shield vehicles get f ' ed over lol
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:22:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Am I literally the only person who understands the problem?
The shot despawns in mid-flight if you die. Just like grenades despawn even if you've cooked and thrown them.
It's one of the more idiotic things in the game. Thank you. Finally someone read the OP...
No one ever actually reads the OP. Most of these guys suck at the game, and spend more time on the forums being trolls on post. They don't realize how counter-productive they are to progress. They just want to get back at you for killing them. Something that actually does need fixing may never get a look because so many crutch riders jump on post defending broken mechanics out of spite.
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:27:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Also 1 it takes alot of skill to actually kill infantry with this weapon I always wondered why everyone says that, even now with the changes of the PLC, aiming isn't that hard (you see a lot of those MD spammers that know how to aim, the PLC isn't any different). The only problem with infantry is that if you aim a slighty bit too high it will just pas through the enemy clone like it wasn't even there. That's why most people advise to shoot from elevated levels. Those ghost shots are also why sometimes you only do splash damage if you shoot from above and the reason why you see a lot of those jumpy suits equipped with the PLC. Now add in latentcy and moving targets,... And getting a hit gets harder, using it? Not that hard, unless you are only used to point and click weapons. PS: I still miss the arc to shoot those fleeing tanks from behind a stupid tiny hill/slope. Honestly depends on how you use it. Either u spam the crap put of it and hope to get a kill. Or track your targets and predicted where they will be in accordance with your shoot. Personally I hate people that jump with it.
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:46:00 -
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Yoda Boss wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Its an AV weapon not intended for fighting infantry. Remember when swarms dumbfired and you could kill infantry with them? If they "fix" the plc give it higher damage and lock it as an av weapon cause these jumpy scout/assaults/commandos are abusing it. So don't complain that your broken weapon is "broken" I got an infantry kill with swarms recently....fricking hilarious Pics or it didn't happen. Did u know: 2 complex damage mods on a quafe SL takes out a saga in 1 shot but not a Methana. I find this slightly unbalanced. Even shield vehicles get f ' ed over lol Did you know a basic swarm laucher with no damage mods or proficiency, will leave a sage with around 20 amor left. 1 damage mod and he doesn't stand a chance
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:13:00 -
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Pretty sure my saga fit will actualy live through a single AV hit.
I should go test it. I've been douching around with the barbie corvette a little too much.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:15:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Genral69 death wrote:I'm sick to death. Of firing my shot and I get killed before it hits the target. So magically my shot disappears. This has denied me too many kills for to long Anyone else agree I am not a Plasma Cannon user, but I completely agree with you in principal. It is like tossing a grenade, and then having it not explode because you died before the timer ran out. I hate that! I'm like 90% sure that this is a troll reply... And why would you think that?
I see no reason why dying should have any effect on a weapon that had already been launched or deployed.
Besides a Burst HMG or a Remote Explosive can kill after you die, why should a Grenade or a Plasma round suddenly become non-lethal?
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:20:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Genral69 death wrote:I'm sick to death. Of firing my shot and I get killed before it hits the target. So magically my shot disappears. This has denied me too many kills for to long Anyone else agree I am not a Plasma Cannon user, but I completely agree with you in principal. It is like tossing a grenade, and then having it not explode because you died before the timer ran out. I hate that! I'm like 90% sure that this is a troll reply... And why would you think that? I see no reason why dying should have any effect on a weapon that had already been launched or deployed. Besides a Burst HMG or a Remote Explosive can kill after you die, why should a Grenade or a Plasma round suddenly become non-lethal?
To be fair most after death kills are just lag. Got to love those kill screens that say zero armor on the enemy left. It's not just delayed action weapons either, happens with scrambler riffles and other near instant weapons. |
ROMULUS H3X
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:23:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What? When you fire the plc (plasma cannon) your shot disappears instantly if you die. But why? Swarms don't, neither the forge guns. So why must my plc's
They don't disapper.. OP has no idea what he is talking about and should get a lot more practice before posting such heinous accusations about the PLC.
Personally I have landed dozens upon dozens of PLC after being terminated.
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:27:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What? When you fire the plc (plasma cannon) your shot disappears instantly if you die. But why? Swarms don't, neither the forge guns. So why must my plc's They don't disapper.. OP has no idea what he is talking about and should get a lot more practice before posting such heinous accusations about the PLC. Personally I have landed dozens upon dozens of PLC after being terminated. Sorry but I'm calling absolute bullshit , I've been using it for a long time and it instantly disappears
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ROMULUS H3X
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:37:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What? When you fire the plc (plasma cannon) your shot disappears instantly if you die. But why? Swarms don't, neither the forge guns. So why must my plc's They don't disapper.. OP has no idea what he is talking about and should get a lot more practice before posting such heinous accusations about the PLC. Personally I have landed dozens upon dozens of PLC after being terminated. Sorry but I'm calling absolute bullshit , I've been using it for a long time and it instantly disappears
..or you die and your shot misses...
I have nailed snipers 200m out after they have already split my dome with a headshot...
The King of Cannons doesn't bullshit, no reason to.
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Kierkegaard Soren
Eridani Light Horse Battalion
870
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:41:00 -
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This is a thing. It happens. It's really annoying.
It also puts a sizeable dent into the PLC's CQC potential; aiming, leading the target and charging the shot only to be killed as you fire and then see your shot evaporate inches from your killers face is extremely frustraing. I've aways considered the weapon to be the true "hard counter" to heavies in CQC enviroments, so if we could fix this I'd be most pleased.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:46:00 -
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Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory.
Please do, I'm thinking it might not disappear if you sre still bleeding out but at clone termination it might cancel out.
So test both instances
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 16:07:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory. Please do, I'm thinking it might not disappear if you sre still bleeding out but at clone termination it might cancel out. So test both instances I'd oy possible that, you killed the sniper at the same moment he killed you?
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ROMULUS H3X
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Posted - 2015.07.24 17:01:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory. Please do, I'm thinking it might not disappear if you sre still bleeding out but at clone termination it might cancel out. So test both instances I'd oy possible that, you killed the sniper at the same moment he killed you?
Felt like a few seconds between me getting put on my ass and the sniper catching the Plasma... That shot happened before the Plasma Cannon trajectory and travel speed were changed... maybe they changed more than was told? Doubt it, but lets see what Breakin Stuff determines in the tests
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.07.24 19:28:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Genral69 death wrote:I'm sick to death. Of firing my shot and I get killed before it hits the target. So magically my shot disappears. This has denied me too many kills for to long Anyone else agree I am not a Plasma Cannon user, but I completely agree with you in principal. It is like tossing a grenade, and then having it not explode because you died before the timer ran out. I hate that! I'm like 90% sure that this is a troll reply... And why would you think that? I see no reason why dying should have any effect on a weapon that had already been launched or deployed. Besides a Burst HMG or a Remote Explosive can kill after you die, why should a Grenade or a Plasma round suddenly become non-lethal?
Calling BS on the grenade disappearing. Postmortem grenade deaths are the absolute bane of my existence.
>I'm winning the fight >He chucks a grenade just before he dies >I kill him >Seconds later I die to his core locus >MFW
Grenades do not disappear after death if you've let go of them. Only if you were cooking it and died before you let go.
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CHET CHEWS
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Posted - 2015.07.24 21:06:00 -
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Know what im tired of? Getting hit by a plasma cannon when the shot is clearly on my right or left and still get hit.... Oh and to not forget i cant even see the shot clearly because for some reason the shot dosent appear until its 5 meters away, so stop b!tchti!n
I was so close sax >.<
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CHET CHEWS
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Posted - 2015.07.24 21:07:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Genral69 death wrote:I'm sick to death. Of firing my shot and I get killed before it hits the target. So magically my shot disappears. This has denied me too many kills for to long Anyone else agree I am not a Plasma Cannon user, but I completely agree with you in principal. It is like tossing a grenade, and then having it not explode because you died before the timer ran out. I hate that! I'm like 90% sure that this is a troll reply... And why would you think that? I see no reason why dying should have any effect on a weapon that had already been launched or deployed. Besides a Burst HMG or a Remote Explosive can kill after you die, why should a Grenade or a Plasma round suddenly become non-lethal? Calling BS on the grenade disappearing. Postmortem grenade deaths are the absolute bane of my existence. >I'm winning the fight >He chucks a grenade just before he dies >I kill him >Seconds later I die to his core locus > MFWGrenades do not disappear after death if you've let go of them. Only if you were cooking it and died before you let go. Yup... I think that sounds like addick punka$$
I was so close sax >.<
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 21:31:00 -
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CHET CHEWS wrote:Know what im tired of? Getting hit by a plasma cannon when the shot is clearly on my right or left and still get hit.... Oh and to not forget i cant even see the shot clearly because for some reason the shot dosent appear until its 5 meters away, so stop b!tchti!n Ok, your officially the first person to actually complain about it, how do you feel?
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CHET CHEWS
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Posted - 2015.07.24 21:33:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:CHET CHEWS wrote:Know what im tired of? Getting hit by a plasma cannon when the shot is clearly on my right or left and still get hit.... Oh and to not forget i cant even see the shot clearly because for some reason the shot dosent appear until its 5 meters away, so stop b!tchti!n Ok, your officially the first person to actually complain about it, how do you feel? IDK, your the first one to complain about the PLC so i feel great after drinking your tears
I was so close sax >.<
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Karam Arami
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.07.24 21:44:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Also 1 it takes alot of skill to actually kill infantry with this weapon I always wondered why everyone says that, even now with the changes of the PLC, aiming isn't that hard (you see a lot of those MD spammers that know how to aim, the PLC isn't any different). The only problem with infantry is that if you aim a slighty bit too high it will just pas through the enemy clone like it wasn't even there. That's why most people advise to shoot from elevated levels. Those ghost shots are also why sometimes you only do splash damage if you shoot from above and the reason why you see a lot of those jumpy suits equipped with the PLC. Now add in latentcy and moving targets,... And getting a hit gets harder, using it? Not that hard, unless you are only used to point and click weapons. PS: I still miss the arc to shoot those fleeing tanks from behind a stupid tiny hill/slope. Moving backwards a bit helps alot
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.24 23:09:00 -
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LOL @ people still crying about the PLC even after its been "fixed" into "AnyScrubCanPickItUpAndUseIt" levels.
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.24 23:11:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory.
Don't forget to include footage or to send an invite, I'd enjoy watching *cough*you dying*cough* your theory testing. XD
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.25 07:58:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Easy to test.
I'll just lob a plasma shot and have Aeon dometap my noggin with a charge sniper in flight or have adipem cut my throat with his NKs to test the theory. Don't forget to include footage or to send an invite, I'd enjoy watching *cough*you dying*cough* your theory testing. XD
Who WOULDN'T enjoy watching me get chainganked?
Even the people who like me would!
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KingA2thur
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Posted - 2015.07.25 10:04:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Am I literally the only person who understands the problem?
The shot despawns in mid-flight if you die. Just like grenades despawn even if you've cooked and thrown them.
It's one of the more idiotic things in the game.
No you aren-¦t. I just died because of some scumbag shooting in my face with a breach assault rifle just after launching the rocket of the plasma cannon. He should have been dead too, because it flew right to his chest and then..... Maaaaaagic......the rocket diseappears
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy No Context
694
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Posted - 2015.07.25 10:23:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Its an AV weapon not intended for fighting infantry. Remember when swarms dumbfired and you could kill infantry with them? If they "fix" the plc give it higher damage and lock it as an av weapon cause these jumpy scout/assaults/commandos are abusing it. So don't complain that your broken weapon is "broken"
I hated when they removed the splash from the FG it effectively locked it as an AV weapon that can still be used against infantry but not primarily
so why not remove the splash from he PLC so that scrubs stop complaining and use it as it was intended (AV)
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.25 19:29:00 -
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PLC has always been anti-infantry, along with anti-vehicle and anti-installation. Its only with the more recent "fixes" and users who seem to think its "only" an AV weapon.
PLC is anti- everything
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ROMULUS H3X
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Posted - 2015.07.25 21:32:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:PLC has always been anti-infantry, along with anti-vehicle and anti-installation. Its only with the more recent "fixes" and users who seem to think its "only" an AV weapon.
PLC is anti- everything
Definitely not anti-fun B-)
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.25 22:26:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:PLC has always been anti-infantry, along with anti-vehicle and anti-installation. Its only with the more recent "fixes" and users who seem to think its "only" an AV weapon.
PLC is anti- everything
Definitely not anti-fun B-)
Undeniable truth; caveat accepted XD
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