so a certain someone keeps making threads about nerfing the BP

I have some simple things to say that should not be hard to understand

the BP does roughly 250 damage and the head shot multiplies it about twice as much so roughly 500 in turn the brach ScP does about 150 damge has better RoF and more ammo it also has no delay in firing so you don't have to track targets the headshot multiplies it about 4 times as much that's 600 damage per shot with no delay and better RoF

a lot of people complain about weapons without even understanding how they work or how to counter them the BP does not need to be nerfed perhaps a rework could be made but not a nerf

anyone saying that they have gotten x amount of kills an no deaths is full of bs if they show no proof, I myself have gone 20+/10+ or so with one of the most difficult/debatably UP weapons in the game the burst ScP that doesn't make it OP by any means and it doesn't even show my skill as a player as I have gotten the reverse of that in many other attempts to replicate those stats

there are some weapons that need way more attention rather then trying to nerf a good sidearm the focus should be on buffing those that need help such as the breach flaylock or the burst ScP and others such as the breach massdriver and perhaps even the assault smg

Server side hit detection is why you're seeing hits whiff by you. It's the same as the time I tested my hit detection with someone and my reticle was dead on but he was seeing me shoot five feet away.

Your PS3 extrapolates where the enemy is shooting based on the position and facing of the target. But the lag delay can make it appear they missed by a mile.

Then the server says: "Nope. You just got whacked."

It's really hilarious when you are trying to fire a forge gun at a tank when this sh*t happens.

The Breach pistol does have a delay between shots, you don't see it firing as fast as an ion pistol. While your math may be "roughly" correct it still doesn't change the fact that Bolt pistol positives greatly out weigh its negatives, the AA for the gun easily discredits the charge that is there to balance rail weaponry. But this just further proves that the last rebalancing of sidearms was a complete failure.

It's really hilarious when you are trying to fire a forge gun at a tank when this sh*t happens.

We don't have the same defintion for "hilarious" then..

Listen scrub, the bp is beyond op.. And if you disagree its cuz ur a liar.. Now gtfo

so a certain someone keeps making threads about nerfing the BP

I have some simple things to say that should not be hard to understand

the BP does roughly 250 damage and the head shot multiplies it about twice as much so roughly 500 in turn the brach ScP does about 150 damge has better RoF and more ammo it also has no delay in firing so you don't have to track targets the headshot multiplies it about 4 times as much that's 600 damage per shot with no delay and better RoF

a lot of people complain about weapons without even understanding how they work or how to counter them the BP does not need to be nerfed perhaps a rework could be made but not a nerf

anyone saying that they have gotten x amount of kills an no deaths is full of bs if they show no proof, I myself have gone 20+/10+ or so with one of the most difficult/debatably UP weapons in the game the burst ScP that doesn't make it OP by any means and it doesn't even show my skill as a player as I have gotten the reverse of that in many other attempts to replicate those stats

there are some weapons that need way more attention rather then trying to nerf a good sidearm the focus should be on buffing those that need help such as the breach flaylock or the burst ScP and others such as the breach massdriver and perhaps even the assault smg

There is definitely something wonky in it's bullet magnetism. I remember Aeon made a video about which you could clearly see something is off. Personally I want it back as a six shooter...

bullet magnetism yes (its called AA) BP no

the AA is the problem id rather have that removed then to ruin the BP like they did with the rail rifle and I myself would not mind it going back to the way it was I'm just tired of all the scrubs trying to push their own agendas as it is one of the few weapons that can deal enough alpha damage to wreck armor suits

So remove AA from from BP is something you'd go for? I feel like this would solve plenty of problems with the gun without changing it's fundamental stats.

Time to go Proto on it, at least Prof. III and proceed to extract tears.-

What's the damage type of the BP?

250 is quite a bit at range for a handheld, charge up time or no. If you're losing to SMG - how about fighting one further away? o.0

If it didn't fire magnetic bullets it would be fine.

so a certain someone keeps making threads about nerfing the BP

I have some simple things to say that should not be hard to understand

the BP does roughly 250 damage and the head shot multiplies it about twice as much so roughly 500 in turn the brach ScP does about 150 damge has better RoF and more ammo it also has no delay in firing so you don't have to track targets the headshot multiplies it about 4 times as much that's 600 damage per shot with no delay and better RoF

a lot of people complain about weapons without even understanding how they work or how to counter them the BP does not need to be nerfed perhaps a rework could be made but not a nerf

anyone saying that they have gotten x amount of kills an no deaths is full of bs if they show no proof, I myself have gone 20+/10+ or so with one of the most difficult/debatably UP weapons in the game the burst ScP that doesn't make it OP by any means and it doesn't even show my skill as a player as I have gotten the reverse of that in many other attempts to replicate those stats

there are some weapons that need way more attention rather then trying to nerf a good sidearm the focus should be on buffing those that need help such as the breach flaylock or the burst ScP and others such as the breach massdriver and perhaps even the assault smg