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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:34:00 -
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So I've got a problem. I love the fast suits. I love mobility. In every game ever where I'm offered a choice between mobility and endurance, I go mobility because if you aren't getting hit, you bypass the need for endurance. Flawed logic, I know. That's not so much the case here in Dust, though, where you're fighting skilled, or sometimes stupid (which is arguably more dangerous), human beings rather than predictable, if annoying, AI. But **** the installations if you accidentally ping one with a BB gun. Accidentally pegged a rail at 200 meters and it got me on the first try as I was scooting behind cover two feet away.
Back on topic, lately I've been using a padded medium suit over my usual jump or hacker scout so I can actually work on my gun game without dying in half a second. Amarr Assault, to be exact. I've been getting decent and I like the fit I've got going, even though it's just basic scrubby 'shove HP down its throat'. Five enhanced Reactor Plates for decent HP and regen. But, it's only a standard suit, so while it does decently enough I can't really fit as much as I want on it outside of those enhanced reactors. I bought a couple of advanced suits out of the Amarr LP store, from back when I was new and did a couple of Amarr runs, and it gives me exactly what I wanted out of the suit. So I'm kind of wanting to skill Amarr Assault to level three so I can just buy them, rather than waiting for my Amarr LP to run out. I'm not running Amarr FW. They don't have anything I want and I'm invested in Minmatar.
The only reason this is even a dilemma for me is because, while I do like my Amarr Assault, every single one of my main suits is a Scout, minus my logi and forge gunner, and I know I'd do a hell of a lot better with them if I had some sort of speed boost. Somehow I've gone this long in scouts without ever skilling into the kinkats.
I've finally raked in 500k SP and, funnily enough, this is just enough to get Amarr Assault from level one to three, OR to get Biotics from three to five and take the first level in the kinkats. Give or take five thousand SP which I guess I can use to skill into smoothie drinking or something.
I can go Amarr Assault and be the blueberry everyone knew I could be, or I could go for speed and improve the all around effectiveness of my suits. The speed will be beneficial to pretty much any suit, but won't be incredibly useful until at least advanced, which means even longer. While Amarr Assault will give me exactly what I was wanting out of the suit and I wanted to get better with my gun game, anyway, but I can do that on the standard, albeit it with a lesser potential.
So which should I do?
TL;DR : Should I get Advanced Amarr Assault or Basic KinKats? It would take all my SP to get one or the other. |
Golden Day
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:40:00 -
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Adv amarr
Im just a glorified blueberry
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:45:00 -
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kincats all day eryday
caldari blood
caldari soul
specc'd into all caldari suits
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rizan baig
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:45:00 -
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Personally, I would go with adv Amarr simply because you have a lot of scout suits but no 'normal' suits for when you need to do some heavy lifting. I think you can agree that a scout isn't needed or can't be used for every single thing on the battlefield.... Something's just need a more durable suit (Like walking into my HMG). It also depends on what gun you'll be using either of you choose to go fast or you choose the HP suit.
"ISK is temporary...... BPOs last forever"
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:46:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: But **** the installations if you accidentally ping one with a BB gun. Accidentally pegged a rail at 200 meters and it got me on the first try as I was scooting behind cover two feet away..
Damn B what time you in? Rail installation haven't shot at infantry since back in uprising 1.something
Also it seems to me like you have a need for speed, which begs the question why amarr?
I would say go adv amar and use mlt kin cats for now...
Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2,
Breaking For CPM2
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:49:00 -
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If you want to work on your gungame I suggest looking for the video ReGnYuM made back in Closed Beta (since that is what strafe speeds are sort of like now) on how to strafe.
I'd then suggest getting a semi-durable fit (you want to shoot for about 600-700 EHP) and running - brace for it - a Scrambler Pistol. Mr Mustard suggested I do this way back in the day and after I did so, my gun game improved two-fold.
Give that a **** for about a week or so, then switch back to a rifle and see how well you do :3
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:52:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: But **** the installations if you accidentally ping one with a BB gun. Accidentally pegged a rail at 200 meters and it got me on the first try as I was scooting behind cover two feet away.. Damn B what time you in? Rail installation haven't shot at infantry since back in uprising 1.something Also it seems to me like you have a need for speed, which begs the question why amarr? I would say go adv amar and use mlt kin cats for now...
This happened maybe two weeks ago. I was using a sniper rifle and saw someone run up to the installation and he happened to be facing my side. Zoomed in on him and lined up, but he cancelled out and moved right as I pulled the trigger. And then boom, one-shotted by the installation as I was scooting behind cover. Maybe it wasn't supposed to happen, maybe it's still a thing and you just haven't noticed because people don't generally shoot at the installations. Dunno. |
No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2015.07.19 01:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:If you want to work on your gungame I suggest looking for the video ReGnYuM made back in Closed Beta (since that is what strafe speeds are sort of like now) on how to strafe.
I'd then suggest getting a semi-durable fit (you want to shoot for about 600-700 EHP) and running - brace for it - a Scrambler Pistol. Mr Mustard suggested I do this way back in the day and after I did so, my gun game improved two-fold.
Give that a **** for about a week or so, then switch back to a rifle and see how well you do :3
I'll give it a shot.
Also, is it 'mr mustard' or 'mr musturd'? Because I've seen both. Same guy, is one an imposter, what? |
xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:01:00 -
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mr musturd is the real deal.
I strongly suggest kincats, as getting ADV amarr assault won't help your gun game, it will help you survive though.
Kincats because every minscout needs them; you survive much longer, outrun any suit...one of my go-to slayer fits is a min scout with 2 kinetic catalyzers on it, it works great.
As for regnyum's video that aeon listed i will try to link it in a minute.
caldari blood
caldari soul
specc'd into all caldari suits
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:02:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYXffQMXXxM
strafe tutorials featuring the one and only god nova!
made by ReGnYuM
caldari blood
caldari soul
specc'd into all caldari suits
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mr musturd
Nos Nothi
735
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:24:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:If you want to work on your gungame I suggest looking for the video ReGnYuM made back in Closed Beta (since that is what strafe speeds are sort of like now) on how to strafe.
I'd then suggest getting a semi-durable fit (you want to shoot for about 600-700 EHP) and running - brace for it - a Scrambler Pistol. Mr Mustard suggested I do this way back in the day and after I did so, my gun game improved two-fold.
Give that a **** for about a week or so, then switch back to a rifle and see how well you do :3
Scrambler pistol is for sure a way to improve accuracy, i still love running my old pistol/knife fits.  |
Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
No Context
240
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:13:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:If you want to work on your gungame I suggest looking for the video ReGnYuM made back in Closed Beta (since that is what strafe speeds are sort of like now) on how to strafe.
I'd then suggest getting a semi-durable fit (you want to shoot for about 600-700 EHP) and running - brace for it - a Scrambler Pistol. Mr Mustard suggested I do this way back in the day and after I did so, my gun game improved two-fold.
Give that a **** for about a week or so, then switch back to a rifle and see how well you do :3 Scrambler pistol is for sure a way to improve accuracy, i still love running my old pistol/knife fits.
I have the dren scrp and im not skilled into it i will run dual on my min scout apex for a bit and see if it works(dont use kns since their are cal weps)
n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +50 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +60
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Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
No Context
240
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:14:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:If you want to work on your gungame I suggest looking for the video ReGnYuM made back in Closed Beta (since that is what strafe speeds are sort of like now) on how to strafe.
I'd then suggest getting a semi-durable fit (you want to shoot for about 600-700 EHP) and running - brace for it - a Scrambler Pistol. Mr Mustard suggested I do this way back in the day and after I did so, my gun game improved two-fold.
Give that a **** for about a week or so, then switch back to a rifle and see how well you do :3
You must teach me to be a good player lke youself and a rich one too
n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +50 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +60
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:27:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: But **** the installations if you accidentally ping one with a BB gun. Accidentally pegged a rail at 200 meters and it got me on the first try as I was scooting behind cover two feet away.. Damn B what time you in? Rail installation haven't shot at infantry since back in uprising 1.something Also it seems to me like you have a need for speed, which begs the question why amarr? I would say go adv amar and use mlt kin cats for now...
If you accidentally damage an installation it will shoot you. This is a thing. Even light weapon damage will get you mauled by the damn thing.
2ndly, kincats are great for your scouts, not so noticeable for amarr assault unless you cut major hp to stack a few, also they dont have an effect on strafe or walk speeds so thats something to consider. The A1/S has better fitting space allowing you to improve the base of your overall fit to work with, but even then I would keep grinding in the basic to get your skills sharp.
3rd: watch that video, over and over. Its why most ppl lose gunfights.
D- MustUrd is the guy, Tard is....well...you get it. And yeah hes one of the 7 noble truths.
Epsilon= I don't know how using the scrambler pistol helps improve gun game? I love using the Ty5 and pull headshots on a regular basis. I go back to rifles and plop....still shite af.
Gÿå: Best of luck on this endeavor. Its very jarring and an odd change to switch to a heavier frame from a lighter, but honestly my days in a scout suit help me survive in suits with more HP. Just think like a scout, on offense and defense.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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