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Posted - 2015.08.30 14:56:00 -
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Lol back then the skill difference was vast between players I'm sure if some of these "legends" came back we would smash their faces in. until we are allowed to have 1v1 tournaments we will never know if that player was good at stomping noobs or if they actually had gun game.
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jett it wrote:saxonmish wrote:For someone who has been around aslong as i have, i know where you're coming from. the one person i remember was 13ear. He ran boosters 24/7 so he had proto before most of the playerbase. bit once the playerbase caught up, he realised he actually sucked and left.
When i was in my Cal scout i had about 7 pure 1v1's with him and they would last about a minute, he was in a cal assault. They where probably the best 1v1's ive had cos we thought so alike.
Beta vets have to be adaptable because of all of the updates, this means they are very good at everything, whereas newer 'Legends' are usually 1 playstyle.
I used to be a Tanker so i wasnt really recognised tbh. VAYU Enforcer Pilot 4 Life! Exactly what he said, New legends tend to stick with one fit and dont have as broad of a playing strategy where as older vets/legends are seen in every fit playing all styles, types and strategies.
Aside from the obvious experience advantage vets also had more sp and gear than other players... I don't think they would get those same results during this era of dust. we have respecs and we have the same **** they do just because they have been around longer doesn't mean they are "better" it simply means they had more advantages. also I've heard so many stories of horrendously over powered gear during their era that anyone who didn't know what was going on would be outgunned and out geared. This game is a lot more balanced so choose your weapon and come get your ass handed to you by the new age dusters....
I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao
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James-5955 wrote:All Gucci wrote:jett it wrote:saxonmish wrote:For someone who has been around aslong as i have, i know where you're coming from. the one person i remember was 13ear. He ran boosters 24/7 so he had proto before most of the playerbase. bit once the playerbase caught up, he realised he actually sucked and left.
When i was in my Cal scout i had about 7 pure 1v1's with him and they would last about a minute, he was in a cal assault. They where probably the best 1v1's ive had cos we thought so alike.
Beta vets have to be adaptable because of all of the updates, this means they are very good at everything, whereas newer 'Legends' are usually 1 playstyle.
I used to be a Tanker so i wasnt really recognised tbh. VAYU Enforcer Pilot 4 Life! Exactly what he said, New legends tend to stick with one fit and dont have as broad of a playing strategy where as older vets/legends are seen in every fit playing all styles, types and strategies. Aside from the obvious experience advantage vets also had more sp and gear than other players... I don't think they would get those same results during this era of dust. we have respecs and we have the same **** they do just because they have been around longer doesn't mean they are "better" it simply means they had more advantages. also I've heard so many stories of horrendously over powered gear during their era that anyone who didn't know what was going on would be outgunned and out geared. This game is a lot more balanced so choose your weapon and come get your ass handed to you by the new age dusters.... I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao You expect beta vets to believe that this game suddenly has no noobs in it to farm? That it's actually balanced now? Funny, first page of the forums (and friends of mine that still play) show that people believe otherwise. You can't expect old beta players to come back to a dead game just to prove that they were good at it lol. I've seen this play out on 3-4 games before this one. The game releases, it's in it's prime, highest playercounts, people get competitive and have clan vs clan battles. People build reps for being good at it, they eventually get bored or fed up of the game and leave. A year or two later all of a sudden those who couldn't compete at the time can now start to rise up because of the lack of competition, grow and ego and challenge those who have already moved on and try to belittle their reputations. Honestly, you just seem salty to me. If you want to go prove something to them then go play planetside 2 where a decent amount of them are and hunt them down lol. And... who's Romulus? You do well against a "legend" (a melee one at that? that's a thing?) and suddenly you're a top dog? Yeah okay, same song and dance, same old crap as the last couple of games. Enjoy playing at the bottom of the toilet bowl. I just had to reply because your post seemed so ridiculous lol, acting like Dust is all of a sudden full of so much skill. Now back to Dragon Age.
lol it sounds like your about to overdose on salt chill lmfao.
kid you get hyped up about players still **** riding you from years ago and the moment anyone questions the legitimacy of these claim you get defensive cause if someone says something undeniably true like what I just said your image would get tarnished lol. funny how you don't play at all but you are quick to jump on the forums and defend your image lmao (Very high sodium concentration)
I am just telling the truth I am not sorry if you feel some type of way because of it since you legends could take on the majority of teams on by yourselves back then please educate me and do that now. I would love to see you go 5/18 then blame it on your inexperience and the massive amounts of proto running around to. I will put this as simply as I can so you can understand. You all played a completely different game back then, you had better unbalanced gear, more sp, longer ttk, and thousand of militia noobs to **** on with no match making.
another thing I have heard that was stupid was the introduction of Aim Assist made it so gun game was easy for current players. true but you also leave out the part where gun game was harder for those who didn't have any so the skill difference was more pronounced back then. it's not that you were greatness it's more like everyone around you sucked lmao. also since the game is supposedly easier now can you come back and drop an 100/0 game I just recently went 70/2 so 100/0 shouldnt be a problem for a "legend"
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Bald Gucci wrote:All Gucci wrote: I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao
Romulus is a melee legend because he owned people with it before it was cool to run myofibs,something that nobody used , back when you probably only had starter fits. Because you chase the fotm , you will never be a legend. So long cousin. To be fair to Gucci, he was using the Amarr Assault before it was FOTM.
lol thnx bro I never give him a response cause without it he fails to exist. I currently run my ck0 assault but I'm sure I am a FOTM scrub still
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James-5955 wrote:First off, it's hardly about me. Hell, you have no idea how many times I've TOLD people that I wasn't that good. People just boost my ego because they believe it, so don't get pissy with me because others think I'm good. When you make the idiotic assumption that any "legend" that would come back and play would get beat by "new age dusters" you aren't just insulting me; but a lot of people I have respect for, friends and old foes. That's why I say something, go ahead and try and tarnish my reputation and have fun, I don't care.
Keep on making excuses as to why everyone else was good, acting like everyone before you was bad. I already earned my stripes in the competitive matches I played. Pubs are irrelevant.
5/18 against randoms? Hell, went against IMP in a corp vs corp when they were like 2 months into having a flawless record and pulled a 2.0 or very close to it against them and we caused them their first loss. Good luck convincing me or anyone else that randoms in Dust are going to give me a harder time than Reg, Proto, both zitros, san and Two while being sandwiched constantly by 2 proto tanks lol. TTK, SP, no aim assist, all things that don't matter at all when playing against people who have the same tier gear and are good FPS players. Like I said, I already earned my stripes on multiple occasions, and in games before Dust. If I try and brag about a pub match then w/e, you can say everyone around me sucked and I would agree. However, if you try to tell me that protoman and reg are bad they you're clearly delusional.
I'm not the one who feels the need to compare myself to others, or act like I'm great. If you ask anyone I play with I'm one of the most humble people you'll meet because I've left competitive gaming years ago, it's all for the fun now.
*sigh* we have come to the same conclusion, you say you do not care about a game you have apparently mastered yet here you are still typing up paragraphs trying to convince everyone that you don't care. True lmao I don't know if you know this but you are contradicting yourself. Completely disregarding the context and saying you are the best no matter what changes have been made to this game just makes you look even more like a fool lmao. like I said this isn't the same game you were running around stomping noobs who didn't have auto aim, long range weaponry and scans.(combine these three and any noob can kill a vet) this is a whole new ball park so please come through get perma scanned and stomped then post about how great you used to be lmao
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James-5955 wrote:All Gucci wrote:James-5955 wrote:First off, it's hardly about me. Hell, you have no idea how many times I've TOLD people that I wasn't that good. People just boost my ego because they believe it, so don't get pissy with me because others think I'm good. When you make the idiotic assumption that any "legend" that would come back and play would get beat by "new age dusters" you aren't just insulting me; but a lot of people I have respect for, friends and old foes. That's why I say something, go ahead and try and tarnish my reputation and have fun, I don't care.
Keep on making excuses as to why everyone else was good, acting like everyone before you was bad. I already earned my stripes in the competitive matches I played. Pubs are irrelevant.
5/18 against randoms? Hell, went against IMP in a corp vs corp when they were like 2 months into having a flawless record and pulled a 2.0 or very close to it against them and we caused them their first loss. Good luck convincing me or anyone else that randoms in Dust are going to give me a harder time than Reg, Proto, both zitros, san and Two while being sandwiched constantly by 2 proto tanks lol. TTK, SP, no aim assist, all things that don't matter at all when playing against people who have the same tier gear and are good FPS players. Like I said, I already earned my stripes on multiple occasions, and in games before Dust. If I try and brag about a pub match then w/e, you can say everyone around me sucked and I would agree. However, if you try to tell me that protoman and reg are bad they you're clearly delusional.
I'm not the one who feels the need to compare myself to others, or act like I'm great. If you ask anyone I play with I'm one of the most humble people you'll meet because I've left competitive gaming years ago, it's all for the fun now. *sigh* we have come to the same conclusion, you say you do not care about a game you have apparently mastered yet here you are still typing up paragraphs trying to convince everyone that you don't care. True lmao I don't know if you know this but you are contradicting yourself. Completely disregarding the context and saying you are the best no matter what changes have been made to this game just makes you look even more like a fool lmao. like I said this isn't the same game you were running around stomping noobs who didn't have auto aim, long range weaponry and scans.(combine these three and any noob can kill a vet) this is a whole new ball park so please come through get perma scanned and stomped then post about how great you used to be lmao The only reason that I'm replying is simply because you've been claiming things that aren't true. Like me apparently saying I'm the best. I haven't said that, you're just seeing what you want to see. Please show me where I've claimed to be the best? I've simply stated that I've earned my stripes and provided one occasion. You're simply putting words into my mouth, and I'm the fool? Yeah okay sure bud. Work on your reading comprehension before trying to go back and fourth with someone on the forums, please.
I have said enough you don't have to be explicit for people to know what you are getting at.... but I'll let you have the last word since apparently you want it so bad. Like I said all that talk of the past is just that,the past. It wasn't the same game... you barely had options and you didn't have as many variables attributing to success or failure.... but I will go ahead and let you think what you want, whatever makes you feel better mr legend lmao
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Posted - 2015.08.31 02:23:00 -
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James-5955 wrote:
*last words, #FeelsSoSalty*
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Please don't ever call me a legend either.. or bring up my name in these garbage threads.
Thank you.
Lol I don't think your a legend I said that because I've heard others refer to you as that... I don't think your **** lmao and when I meleed you, you def weren't on a cru spawning in you jumped out of delta, I tracked, and wacked you... Don't act like I spawn camped you
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Posted - 2015.09.02 12:20:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:All Gucci wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Please don't ever call me a legend either.. or bring up my name in these garbage threads.
Thank you.
Lol I don't think your a legend I said that because I've heard others refer to you as that... I don't think your **** lmao and when I meleed you, you def weren't on a cru spawning in you jumped out of delta, I tracked, and wacked you... Don't act like I spawn camped you I spawned on the CRU at Delta away from the city trying to get away from the lag. Had about 3 seconds into that clones life when you got me... Big whoop? How can you go and act like 30/1 when I am on the other team with a bunch of starter corp blues, is some type of amazing pedestal? You killed me twice that battle, once before that with Boundless Combat Rifle... Keep up the arrogance... I am glad killing ROMULUS H3X was your most defining moment of your GAMING CAREER... *golf clap*
Like I said... I didn't know who you were until reading a melee post where you were mentioned as a melee legend.... you heard me before and I will say it again so it goes through your head kid, I don't think you are ****. didn't look like you were lagging when we both spotted each other at delta and tried to Plc the other... if your blue berries sucked so bad why didn't you place in top 3 that match? it's always the lag AND the blueberries
in conclusion I don't think you are anything special if I hadn't read that post I would have assumed you were just another garbage player.... also there is fw, we could 1v1 so you can try to melee me to get your confidence back if you want, cause it clear that the last punch knocked a y chromosome loose lmao
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Posted - 2015.09.08 08:11:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:All Gucci wrote:jett it wrote:saxonmish wrote:For someone who has been around aslong as i have, i know where you're coming from. the one person i remember was 13ear. He ran boosters 24/7 so he had proto before most of the playerbase. bit once the playerbase caught up, he realised he actually sucked and left.
When i was in my Cal scout i had about 7 pure 1v1's with him and they would last about a minute, he was in a cal assault. They where probably the best 1v1's ive had cos we thought so alike.
Beta vets have to be adaptable because of all of the updates, this means they are very good at everything, whereas newer 'Legends' are usually 1 playstyle.
I used to be a Tanker so i wasnt really recognised tbh. VAYU Enforcer Pilot 4 Life! Exactly what he said, New legends tend to stick with one fit and dont have as broad of a playing strategy where as older vets/legends are seen in every fit playing all styles, types and strategies. Aside from the obvious experience advantage vets also had more sp and gear than other players... I don't think they would get those same results during this era of dust. we have respecs and we have the same **** they do just because they have been around longer doesn't mean they are "better" it simply means they had more advantages. also I've heard so many stories of horrendously over powered gear during their era that anyone who didn't know what was going on would be outgunned and out geared. This game is a lot more balanced so choose your weapon and come get your ass handed to you by the new age dusters.... I am not a beta vet I came late at the end of 1.8 but I have come across some "legends" and have given them ass whoopins heck I even went 30/1 vs the "melee legend" Romulus with melee! so no you "legends" aren't **** in my opinion you were just here when there was a plethora of noobs to stomp with no match making and no weapon balance congrats come back to dust and watch as your ratio plummets lmfao The sp gap back then was minimal....not even close to what it is now..you talk about the sp gap yet most the "new legends" have about 60-80m more sp than the average player base....your logic is flawed Players who weren't around back then should really not talk about it like they know something exactly....sp gap right now is ridiculous. And guys that haven't been around commenting on guys they have never seen play is absurd.
I don't know if you noticed but my post was nearly a week ago.... if you still feel butt hurt about me saying your legends aren't **** then that's your fault lmao.
Also defending someone who hasn't proved their greatness during present times and circumstances is absurd... your a hypocrite dude, your logic makes no sense.... they haven't done one dam thing in this era to prove **** but yet you still rush to their rescue lmao the only thing you use to justify their status during the present is the past...not hard evidence in the form of pictures and videos but just opinions... of the past. lmao also the notion that they would have simply adapted and still been better is laughable. To glorify another human being simply means you feel you aren't adequate enough. I understand they rekt you back then and you still feel the buttthurt ,but they aren't gods someone will come along and be better then they ever were (I'm sure even when that happens you'll defend the past )I'm sorry bro but that is the simple fact of life
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:38:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Not hypocritical....it's opinions based on what I'VE SEEN. Your opinion seems to be based on jealousy. I can have an opinion about old and new considering that I've witnessed both. You haven't witnessed the old, yet you have an opinion on it. That is what I consider to be absurd.
That same opinion is also based on what YOU HAVENT SEEN. Lol why does my opinion have to be based on jealousy? I am just a naturally skeptical person who calls out flawed thinking. I would think what I said would make sense to you seeing as you aren't another slow player but I will explain what I am trying to convey to you...
Your legends haven't shot a red during our present time and gaming environment... you claim that no matter the context they are legends even when they have done absolutely nothing in this present day circumstance. So based on your logic no matter how many buffs and nerfs of things there are, these legends (who apparently aren't human beings that are subject to change whether good or bad) would still reign supreme. I don't know what drugs to combine to think like you but let me know so I never accidentally get that combo lol
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Posted - 2015.09.08 14:07:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this 3rd rock guy is tarded. you dudes would get flat out slaughtered if all the old vets came back. the reason Ydubbs can say that is because he seen them and he seen you.
I guess opinions are facts in the eve universe lmao we probably would get shitted on... but you all honestly believe every single "legend" would still be able to do what they did back then in this current environment .... lmfao and I am ********. The only thing you keep saying is I have seen them play in the past (when this entire game was waaaaay different)...not the present but the past lmao I don't know what logic you are using but I can guess it's something sort of like. "I got rekt in the past by these guys, they haven't shot not even one bullet during these present circumstances but I still feel the hurt from the past therefore they would hurt me now" Did I get your flawed thought process correct? I'll stop wile I'm ahead because I'm hearing more pathos then logos, and I like arguments with evidence not arguments fueled by how you feel lmao
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Posted - 2015.09.08 16:20:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:xavier zor wrote:i find it absolutely hilarious when people liken themselves to THE slayers of beta....back then they got our scores, even better ans everyone had 5 mi SP....there was no protosuit, everyone was in mlt or standard. Now everyone is in proto, and the 'slayers' have several crutches such as aim-assist (worst implementation ever) and 80 million SP to help them.
We all suck, everypme You forgot to add they got those scores when the game was in a worse state. As hard as it is to believe, closed beta had way more bumps and potholes than today.
There is no point in arguing further... the past is the past using the past as justification for their hypothetical presence in the present just sounds flawed. Alas they were the first stompers so they will always be the best they have transcended human nature/limitations and are now gods who's skills will never diminish or stay stagnant but will increase no matter what nerfs and buffs that may apply to this game. *Beta Logic*
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Posted - 2015.09.08 16:24:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:no its just looking at the present and seeing how bad people are one can come to the conclusion that if 10 no arm midgits came back to the game they would take over.
I do agree the amount of skilled players is low but I think that is because everyone knows the game and what is going on so the difference in skill Isn't as apparent as back then... I know if these beta legends came back they wouldn't be terrible but they wouldn't be the dominating force you are making them out to be... just my 2 isk you can take it or leave it
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Posted - 2015.09.08 17:44:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:All Gucci wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
exactly....sp gap right now is ridiculous.
And guys that haven't been around commenting on guys they have never seen play is absurd.
I don't know if you noticed but my post was nearly a week ago.... if you still feel butt hurt about me saying your legends aren't **** then that's your fault lmao. Also defending someone who hasn't proved their greatness during present times and circumstances is absurd... your a hypocrite dude, your logic makes no sense.... they haven't done one dam thing in this era to prove **** but yet you still rush to their rescue lmao the only thing you use to justify their status during the present is the past...not hard evidence in the form of pictures and videos but just opinions... of the past. lmao also the notion that they would have simply adapted and still been better is laughable. To glorify another human being simply means you feel you aren't adequate enough. I understand they rekt you back then and you still feel the buttthurt ,but they aren't gods someone will come along and be better then they ever were (I'm sure even when that happens you'll defend the past )I'm sorry bro but that is the simple fact of life Not hypocritical....it's opinions based on what I'VE SEEN. Your opinion seems to be based on jealousy. I can have an opinion about old and new considering that I've witnessed both. You haven't witnessed the old, yet you have an opinion on it. That is what I consider to be absurd. #get bent
aww that's cute truth got you feeling some type of way #WhyYouMadBreh
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:What truth? Just because you type it doesn't mean it's true nor does it make you right...maybe if they came back they'd get rekt but I highly doubt it considering beta actually took skill..your auto aim helps a lot doesn't it breh..back then there was no fotm or AA, everyone had same suits and skills so it was about the players skill now it's oh I have 90m sp I have what's op and fotm..
you are really simple minded bro.... you ever hear glass half full/ half empty. with no aim assist people who couldn't follow a target would get rekt that included the noobs... because of this, the skill difference was more apparent understandably (that's why they look like gods to you).
AA was implemented to close the skill gap (although I would love to see it removed especially because of that dam bolt pistol). You argument is that AA helps the skilled players of the present but it also helps the unskilled players. so the skill difference isn't as vast as it previously was. Had we removed AA and these vets came back there is no doubt about it they would be beast because they have already experience that but if they were to come back now the same noobs that couldn't hit them with one bullet will have the assistance of AA to help them get those shots to actually hit.
Also you say they all had the same **** to use ,but that would have been sooooooooo much easier since I'd know exactly what weapon my opponent has. Now I could only guess what my opponent might use depending on what suit they use, but it doesn't always workout that way unfortunately. if what I am saying still doesn't make sense to you then have fun justifying your beliefs of the present off of opinions of the past... I am done lol
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