DUST Search - Petition: Command Points Exchange For ISK

Union118 wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Bright Cloud wrote:

No. CP are only there for PC and if you dont have a district you can launch a attack for 25k CP with 0 ISK cost.

I agree with Bright over here. Command Points, as they are now, are a concept that was brought up and discussed by CCP Rattati's Think Tank which consisted of corp CEOs and/or directors who are directly involved in planetary conquest. The system was setup to mitigate or prevent exploits.

Besides, I don't see any point in converting CP to ISK. Corp members already earn ISK through pub matches, daily missions, and selling assets. The corp already makes enough ISK as it is via corp tax if it has enough members.

Dust University does not own any districts and we have been defeated twice already in PC while we were attempting to raid districts, but our aim was never to win a district. We are a PC raiding corp now. And since we don't have a district we only need to pay 25,000 CP to attack. And apparently D-UNI's CP accrual rate is high enough to recuperate those 25,000 CP in a span of about 48 hours on average. The only problem we have at this point is figuring out who to attack next.

Thats great that you have a ton of members. My corp isnt so popular because no one likes to fight for a religion cept a certain few. We are not here to raid districts but to have fun in the best gear and its harder to play in better gear if the isk payout cant keep up with our losses.

For that reason people stop playing Dust. Its a significant amount and thus you have to play the same corps every game and then the game gets boring.

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Union118 GamersForChrist 562	Posted - 2015.07.17 19:04:00 - [1] - Quote Im in a corp that has no use for Command Points. We have no allies and we don't hold any districts. I think it would be fair to exchange these command points for ISK. Since districts are paying out ISK again its only fair that Corps that cant gain a district get ISK by being loyal and active in their own small Corps. If this does not happen small corps will suffer in pubs. We only want to have fun and play with the best stuff that we worked so hard for. Most matches are one sided and people leave the matches soon as they start loosing. There are other reasons for this but i hope the Isk gain from Command Points can help motivate people to try even in a obvious loosing battle. Please give me your thought and if we can improve on this idea. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.17 19:27:00 - [2] - Quote No. CP are only there for PC and if you dont have a district you can launch a attack for 25k CP with 0 ISK cost. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.17 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote Or or you could fireteam up with other better players.. Im just a glorified blueberry
Union118 GamersForChrist 562	Posted - 2015.07.17 19:53:00 - [4] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Or or you could fireteam up with other better players.. Fireteam is a term i see in Destiny. But playing with better players rather than my corp mates is dumb. Why be in a corp if you are not going to play with your corp friends? Iv played with the best players and they dont play to have fun. They are to political. Its no fun playing in lesser gear if the better gear is more fun to play with. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.07.17 19:59:00 - [5] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: No. CP are only there for PC and if you dont have a district you can launch a attack for 25k CP with 0 ISK cost. I agree with Bright over here. Command Points, as they are now, are a concept that was brought up and discussed by CCP Rattati's Think Tank which consisted of corp CEOs and/or directors who are directly involved in planetary conquest. The system was setup to mitigate or prevent exploits. Besides, I don't see any point in converting CP to ISK. Corp members already earn ISK through pub matches, daily missions, and selling assets. The corp already makes enough ISK as it is via corp tax if it has enough members. Dust University does not own any districts and we have been defeated twice already in PC while we were attempting to raid districts, but our aim was never to win a district. We are a PC raiding corp now. And since we don't have a district we only need to pay 25,000 CP to attack. And apparently D-UNI's CP accrual rate is high enough to recuperate those 25,000 CP in a span of about 48 hours on average. The only problem we have at this point is figuring out who to attack next. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.07.17 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote Union118 wrote: Golden Day wrote: Or or you could fireteam up with other better players.. Fireteam is a term i see in Destiny. But playing with better players rather than my corp mates is dumb. Why be in a corp if you are not going to play with your corp friends? Iv played with the best players and they dont play to have fun. They are to political. Its no fun playing in lesser gear if the better gear is more fun to play with. Dust University goes into PC mainly to have fun. We do have some very good players (me included) who are not political. We don't want to be one of those corps that strive to hold the most land and wield the most influence. We just want to get into a fight like a pack of Vikings, pillage a village, and get out. If we ever do win a district by any chance, we'll likely lose it again anyways probably through another PC battle. D-UNI use to be kind of serious about it back when Planetary Conquest first started, but that burned us out. Moral of the story: Why So Serious? Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Union118 GamersForChrist 563	Posted - 2015.07.17 20:12:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: No. CP are only there for PC and if you dont have a district you can launch a attack for 25k CP with 0 ISK cost. I agree with Bright over here. Command Points, as they are now, are a concept that was brought up and discussed by CCP Rattati's Think Tank which consisted of corp CEOs and/or directors who are directly involved in planetary conquest. The system was setup to mitigate or prevent exploits. Besides, I don't see any point in converting CP to ISK. Corp members already earn ISK through pub matches, daily missions, and selling assets. The corp already makes enough ISK as it is via corp tax if it has enough members. Dust University does not own any districts and we have been defeated twice already in PC while we were attempting to raid districts, but our aim was never to win a district. We are a PC raiding corp now. And since we don't have a district we only need to pay 25,000 CP to attack. And apparently D-UNI's CP accrual rate is high enough to recuperate those 25,000 CP in a span of about 48 hours on average. The only problem we have at this point is figuring out who to attack next. Thats great that you have a ton of members. My corp isnt so popular because no one likes to fight for a religion cept a certain few. We are not here to raid districts but to have fun in the best gear and its harder to play in better gear if the isk payout cant keep up with our losses. For that reason people stop playing Dust. Its a significant amount and thus you have to play the same corps every game and then the game gets boring. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2015.07.17 21:07:00 - [8] - Quote Union118 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: No. CP are only there for PC and if you dont have a district you can launch a attack for 25k CP with 0 ISK cost. I agree with Bright over here. Command Points, as they are now, are a concept that was brought up and discussed by CCP Rattati's Think Tank which consisted of corp CEOs and/or directors who are directly involved in planetary conquest. The system was setup to mitigate or prevent exploits. Besides, I don't see any point in converting CP to ISK. Corp members already earn ISK through pub matches, daily missions, and selling assets. The corp already makes enough ISK as it is via corp tax if it has enough members. Dust University does not own any districts and we have been defeated twice already in PC while we were attempting to raid districts, but our aim was never to win a district. We are a PC raiding corp now. And since we don't have a district we only need to pay 25,000 CP to attack. And apparently D-UNI's CP accrual rate is high enough to recuperate those 25,000 CP in a span of about 48 hours on average. The only problem we have at this point is figuring out who to attack next. Thats great that you have a ton of members. My corp isnt so popular because no one likes to fight for a religion cept a certain few. We are not here to raid districts but to have fun in the best gear and its harder to play in better gear if the isk payout cant keep up with our losses. For that reason people stop playing Dust. Its a significant amount and thus you have to play the same corps every game and then the game gets boring. Since the payout system in PC is heavily dependent on what you kill, I often run ultra-cheap fits in the 10,000-17,000 ISK range. Since I often die about 10 times at the most in any given match, I will only lose about 100,000-170,000 ISK at the most. But if I play my cards right, and force the enemy to come to me while they come at me with their proto/officer/experimental gear, I can still make a profit. But the main problem we face right now is that we get stomped hard by a corp who has the home field advantage. That and we just got started after an extremely long hiatus from PC so we were completely noobish. But every time we lost badly, we learned from it and adapted accordingly. Our first PC match was utter hell, our second one was less hellish but still relatively hot. Hopefully in the next PC match, we might make it half way out of hell. XD But anyways, our CEO pays us a lot of ISK for going into a PC match so we are at least compensated for our losses. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Veg Hegirin DUST University Ivy League 98	Posted - 2015.07.17 21:40:00 - [9] - Quote Quote: Command Points Exchange For ISK PC is keep-what-you-kill. Find a time when you're all on, and launch some raids with all that CP you're not using. Run cheap suits and practice focus-firing as a group. At the very least you'll make more than you would running pubs, which is basically the same as, wait for it, Command Points in Exchange For ISK Scrub-a-dub-dub
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.17 21:41:00 - [10] - Quote Union118 wrote: Golden Day wrote: Or or you could fireteam up with other better players.. Fireteam is a term i see in Destiny. But playing with better players rather than my corp mates is dumb. Why be in a corp if you are not going to play with your corp friends? Iv played with the best players and they dont play to have fun. They are to political. Its no fun playing in lesser gear if the better gear is more fun to play with. What is this fun you speak of? All I have time for is KD padding. I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs

Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 944	Posted - 2015.07.17 21:47:00 - [11] - Quote RAIDING Use the Corp Points to launch an attack on a district and use cheap/free gear for the battle. Cant fill a team? Squad finder or broadcast the rf# to Local or some other channel for willing players. Will you get stomped out? Probably, unless you pickup good players. Losing team still gets paid though. Alot? Nope. Will you get rich? Nope, but you will get something from something you already have (Corp Points). There are a FUKKTON of districts just sitting idle right now not having battles on them. Pick one and launch on that sumbitch. PC Corps will have to the defend the district if they want to keep it.(whether the threat of loss is real or not) If they No Show the battle not respecting you then boom you got a district to sell/hold. OR Launch For Someone Else Message somebody in an established PC corp. Find your way to a director or something. Ask them if they'd like for you to launch an attack on another PC corp. Offer to field their players. Workout some kind of agreement. FYI No, i didnt read the thread past the first post. even then i just skimmed really.
Union118 GamersForChrist 563	Posted - 2015.07.18 00:14:00 - [12] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Union118 wrote: Golden Day wrote: Or or you could fireteam up with other better players.. Fireteam is a term i see in Destiny. But playing with better players rather than my corp mates is dumb. Why be in a corp if you are not going to play with your corp friends? Iv played with the best players and they dont play to have fun. They are to political. Its no fun playing in lesser gear if the better gear is more fun to play with. What is this fun you speak of? All I have time for is KD padding. Maybe i should petition for kill death ration to not be shown Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Union118 GamersForChrist 563	Posted - 2015.07.18 00:18:00 - [13] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: RAIDING Use the Corp Points to launch an attack on a district and use cheap/free gear for the battle. Cant fill a team? Squad finder or broadcast the rf# to Local or some other channel for willing players. Will you get stomped out? Probably, unless you pickup good players. Losing team still gets paid though. Alot? Nope. Will you get rich? Nope, but you will get something from something you already have (Corp Points). There are a FUKKTON of districts just sitting idle right now not having battles on them. Pick one and launch on that sumbitch. PC Corps will have to the defend the district if they want to keep it.(whether the threat of loss is real or not) If they No Show the battle not respecting you then boom you got a district to sell/hold. OR Launch For Someone Else Message somebody in an established PC corp. Find your way to a director or something. Ask them if they'd like for you to launch an attack on another PC corp. Offer to field their players. Workout some kind of agreement. FYI No, i didnt read the thread past the first post. even then i just skimmed really. We dont have the man power to do that even if we did it would be a waste of time n resources. Even if we used free suits noone would be able to kill the team we were to raid even if it was for fun. The dust community will never honor a match like that. People are too greedy n to worried about their KDR. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)


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