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True Adamance wrote:

VAHZZ wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

VAHZZ wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank.

That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now.

Well you have great physical damage mitigation. Grit offers -20% incoming which can be coupled with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall, 15% and 20% respectively, but only for short durations though you can Dark Arts trigger the latter for greater mitigation so its effective hit points over short durations can be equivalent to 150% of base HP. Dark Mind Cuts 15% Magic Damage or something but I've not truly found a use for it outside of Trials I know require magic spam.

However its MP is essentially both is TP and essential for the Dark Arts rotations. You almost constantly need to be runnings 'Masochism' as I call it and convert damage taken into MP or 2x DA rotations are likely to put you out of Darkside stances over long fights.

Essentially the most unique mechanics of the Dark Knight are insanely TP intensive, cannot be used regularly, and risk shaving off 100 DPS per second until you can re-initiate Darkside during which time a few of your abilities won't even work.

In the end if you were expecting a particularly unique Tank/DPS hybrid you lose out. Apparently they cannot hit Warrior and Paladin DPS values @50+, they don't uniquely focus of tanking by debuffing though you do have some interesting debuff options, and kind of awkwardly overlap with the Monks Dragon kick leaving the Monk still more desirable.

I was actually thinking they would be more so the powerhouse in contrast to Paladins. Coupling their Greatsword with Dark Arts rotation, alongside being a tank. But it saddens me that they are beneath Warriors, especially Paladins.

Oh well, I guess I shall just keep my Bard into Heavensward, because Machinist looks like crap.

In some respects they can be I've noticed significantly higher numbers on my Dark Knight using Slaying accessories over my Warrior with my highest critical hits cracking 696. Combining that with Scourge, a DoT for 500 potency, Dark Arts Delirium, you can mount impressive DPS but at the cost of HP, and not as high or durable as other tank types.

We have no artefact armour yet. Esoterics are coming out next week or something so the armour you see in the trialers might become available...but **** is the Dark Knight questline cooler than any of the others. You'll be sure to love it especially the Lvl 50 quest.

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Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 859	Posted - 2015.07.16 17:52:00 - [31] - Quote intellivision baseball https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1sWZCeCgw Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.07.16 18:26:00 - [32] - Quote Wish I could remember. Something either on NES or an early 90's PC. Official CPM Platform
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.16 18:34:00 - [33] - Quote Earliest game I ever played was Tag. Oh you meant video game lol: Pokemon Leaf Green for Gameboy Advance For PS2: Star Wars Battlefront.2 with 5000 hours logged PC: Master of Orion 3 PS3 competitively: Ghost Recon Future Soldier and Dust 514 I recently played Batman: Arkham Knight "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner *The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven * Internet down atm :(
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 18:36:00 - [34] - Quote My most recent game is Civ 5 which I played with Komrad Khet. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
chill penguin Bragian Order 197	Posted - 2015.07.16 21:51:00 - [35] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: For PS2: Star Wars Battlefront.2 with 5000 hours logged I knew I recognized that name! I can't believe i didn't notice another soldier of Vader's Fist A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
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Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 23:15:00 - [37] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: I have been playing a lot of A Realm Reborn lately, but that'll end in a few days, subscription will be up. I've acquired this recently, actually. What race and class do you play? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.16 23:18:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: VAHZZ wrote: I have been playing a lot of A Realm Reborn lately, but that'll end in a few days, subscription will be up. I've acquired this recently, actually. What race and class do you play? He's a filthy 2.0 Bard if I recall. I'm an Au Ra Dark Knight, previously a Hyur Mid-Lander Warrior. Waiting on those Esoterics! NEED ME THEM ESOTERICS! Also currently crying about how without a keyboard I literally unlike my warrior cannot fit enough actions onto my hotbar...... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.07.16 23:20:00 - [39] - Quote Sonic on the Sega Megadrive. Both the game and console are actually older than me. We owned both that and the Ps1 (also older than me). I think they're still buried somewhere. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:11:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: VAHZZ wrote: I have been playing a lot of A Realm Reborn lately, but that'll end in a few days, subscription will be up. I've acquired this recently, actually. What race and class do you play? He's a filthy 2.0 Bard if I recall. I'm an Au Ra Dark Knight, previously a Hyur Mid-Lander Warrior. Waiting on those Esoterics! NEED ME THEM ESOTERICS! Also currently crying about how without a keyboard I literally unlike my warrior cannot fit enough actions onto my hotbar...... I have been a Bard since Alpha, but that is not the only class I play. It is nowhere near my competitive build either, being a Keeper of the Moon. I have played all classes at some point, besides the new ones. When I get Heavensward(In a couple of months when I can buy it and keep up my sub) I shall become a Dark Knight. I am quite fond of the Monk, despite it's tenacity to be a let down and a pain in the butt. My competitive build is a Warrior though, funny though he is a Hyur Midlander, just like True, only because I like the look of the combo. But as True pointed out, you will mostly see me as a Bard. My life is for taco.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:15:00 - [41] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: VAHZZ wrote: I have been playing a lot of A Realm Reborn lately, but that'll end in a few days, subscription will be up. I've acquired this recently, actually. What race and class do you play? He's a filthy 2.0 Bard if I recall. I'm an Au Ra Dark Knight, previously a Hyur Mid-Lander Warrior. Waiting on those Esoterics! NEED ME THEM ESOTERICS! Also currently crying about how without a keyboard I literally unlike my warrior cannot fit enough actions onto my hotbar...... I have been a Bard since Alpha, but that is not the only class I play. It is nowhere near my competitive build either, being a Keeper of the Moon. I have played all classes at some point, besides the new ones. When I get Heavensward(In a couple of months when I can buy it and keep up my sub) I shall become a Dark Knight. I am quite fond of the Monk, despite it's tenacity to be a let down and a pain in the butt. My competitive build is a Warrior though, funny though he is a Hyur Midlander, just like True, only because I like the look of the combo. But as True pointed out, you will mostly see me as a Bard. I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:22:00 - [42] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now. My life is for taco.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:08:00 - [43] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now. Well you have great physical damage mitigation. Grit offers -20% incoming which can be coupled with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall, 15% and 20% respectively, but only for short durations though you can Dark Arts trigger the latter for greater mitigation so its effective hit points over short durations can be equivalent to 150% of base HP. Dark Mind Cuts 15% Magic Damage or something but I've not truly found a use for it outside of Trials I know require magic spam. However its MP is essentially both is TP and essential for the Dark Arts rotations. You almost constantly need to be runnings 'Masochism' as I call it and convert damage taken into MP or 2x DA rotations are likely to put you out of Darkside stances over long fights. Essentially the most unique mechanics of the Dark Knight are insanely TP intensive, cannot be used regularly, and risk shaving off 100 DPS per second until you can re-initiate Darkside during which time a few of your abilities won't even work. In the end if you were expecting a particularly unique Tank/DPS hybrid you lose out. Apparently they cannot hit Warrior and Paladin DPS values @50+, they don't uniquely focus of tanking by debuffing though you do have some interesting debuff options, and kind of awkwardly overlap with the Monks Dragon kick leaving the Monk still more desirable. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:24:00 - [44] - Quote True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now. Well you have great physical damage mitigation. Grit offers -20% incoming which can be coupled with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall, 15% and 20% respectively, but only for short durations though you can Dark Arts trigger the latter for greater mitigation so its effective hit points over short durations can be equivalent to 150% of base HP. Dark Mind Cuts 15% Magic Damage or something but I've not truly found a use for it outside of Trials I know require magic spam. However its MP is essentially both is TP and essential for the Dark Arts rotations. You almost constantly need to be runnings 'Masochism' as I call it and convert damage taken into MP or 2x DA rotations are likely to put you out of Darkside stances over long fights. Essentially the most unique mechanics of the Dark Knight are insanely TP intensive, cannot be used regularly, and risk shaving off 100 DPS per second until you can re-initiate Darkside during which time a few of your abilities won't even work. In the end if you were expecting a particularly unique Tank/DPS hybrid you lose out. Apparently they cannot hit Warrior and Paladin DPS values @50+, they don't uniquely focus of tanking by debuffing though you do have some interesting debuff options, and kind of awkwardly overlap with the Monks Dragon kick leaving the Monk still more desirable. I was actually thinking they would be more so the powerhouse in contrast to Paladins. Coupling their Greatsword with Dark Arts rotation, alongside being a tank. But it saddens me that they are beneath Warriors, especially Paladins. Oh well, I guess I shall just keep my Bard into Heavensward, because Machinist looks like crap. X\|V
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:34:00 - [45] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now. Well you have great physical damage mitigation. Grit offers -20% incoming which can be coupled with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall, 15% and 20% respectively, but only for short durations though you can Dark Arts trigger the latter for greater mitigation so its effective hit points over short durations can be equivalent to 150% of base HP. Dark Mind Cuts 15% Magic Damage or something but I've not truly found a use for it outside of Trials I know require magic spam. However its MP is essentially both is TP and essential for the Dark Arts rotations. You almost constantly need to be runnings 'Masochism' as I call it and convert damage taken into MP or 2x DA rotations are likely to put you out of Darkside stances over long fights. Essentially the most unique mechanics of the Dark Knight are insanely TP intensive, cannot be used regularly, and risk shaving off 100 DPS per second until you can re-initiate Darkside during which time a few of your abilities won't even work. In the end if you were expecting a particularly unique Tank/DPS hybrid you lose out. Apparently they cannot hit Warrior and Paladin DPS values @50+, they don't uniquely focus of tanking by debuffing though you do have some interesting debuff options, and kind of awkwardly overlap with the Monks Dragon kick leaving the Monk still more desirable. I was actually thinking they would be more so the powerhouse in contrast to Paladins. Coupling their Greatsword with Dark Arts rotation, alongside being a tank. But it saddens me that they are beneath Warriors, especially Paladins. Oh well, I guess I shall just keep my Bard into Heavensward, because Machinist looks like crap. In some respects they can be I've noticed significantly higher numbers on my Dark Knight using Slaying accessories over my Warrior with my highest critical hits cracking 696. Combining that with Scourge, a DoT for 500 potency, Dark Arts Delirium, you can mount impressive DPS but at the cost of HP, and not as high or durable as other tank types. We have no artefact armour yet. Esoterics are coming out next week or something so the armour you see in the trialers might become available...but **** is the Dark Knight questline cooler than any of the others. You'll be sure to love it especially the Lvl 50 quest. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
TEBOW BAGGINS 1	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:38:00 - [46] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Fallout for the PC. First game I played. From there, I was a fallout lover. Learned the whole lore in 2011. oh that was a revolution for RPG gaming.. i drooled to play that for years.. my dad was a fan of apple tho it's still darker and somewhat better than the next gen versions.. it was hardcore- one bad critical hit on your main char could send you back hours to your last save.. i finally got to play it when i was about 25 i remember being really stoked when i found the crashed UFO because i was big into that kinda stuff back then. that was a random encounter it threw me on my second day playing and i was not expecting it. the ability to kill children was freaking gnarly and the game became very hard after you got that pinned on you. i liked how fallout 1 you started with literal sticks and stones. it took a while to find fire arms. i still remember my first fight with a group of children we were throwing rocks at each other and those poor kids got mauled by my dog. one of my NPCs decided he didnt like the child abuse and ditched me after that fight.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:40:00 - [47] - Quote True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: True Adamance wrote: I want to point out despite being able to adequately tank most things the Dark Knight is by no means the best choice. Paladin and Warrior over it as it stands are the better choices for upper tier gameplay. That being said Dark Art Delirium Combos and all Slaying Accessories are fun to play as off tank. That makes me sad. I was under the impression that the Dark Knight would be loads better, damn me and my bias towards that class. Also, may I ask it's rotation? I am far too lazy to check it out right now. Well you have great physical damage mitigation. Grit offers -20% incoming which can be coupled with Shadowskin and Shadow Wall, 15% and 20% respectively, but only for short durations though you can Dark Arts trigger the latter for greater mitigation so its effective hit points over short durations can be equivalent to 150% of base HP. Dark Mind Cuts 15% Magic Damage or something but I've not truly found a use for it outside of Trials I know require magic spam. However its MP is essentially both is TP and essential for the Dark Arts rotations. You almost constantly need to be runnings 'Masochism' as I call it and convert damage taken into MP or 2x DA rotations are likely to put you out of Darkside stances over long fights. Essentially the most unique mechanics of the Dark Knight are insanely TP intensive, cannot be used regularly, and risk shaving off 100 DPS per second until you can re-initiate Darkside during which time a few of your abilities won't even work. In the end if you were expecting a particularly unique Tank/DPS hybrid you lose out. Apparently they cannot hit Warrior and Paladin DPS values @50+, they don't uniquely focus of tanking by debuffing though you do have some interesting debuff options, and kind of awkwardly overlap with the Monks Dragon kick leaving the Monk still more desirable. I was actually thinking they would be more so the powerhouse in contrast to Paladins. Coupling their Greatsword with Dark Arts rotation, alongside being a tank. But it saddens me that they are beneath Warriors, especially Paladins. Oh well, I guess I shall just keep my Bard into Heavensward, because Machinist looks like crap. In some respects they can be I've noticed significantly higher numbers on my Dark Knight using Slaying accessories over my Warrior with my highest critical hits cracking 696. Combining that with Scourge, a DoT for 500 potency, Dark Arts Delirium, you can mount impressive DPS but at the cost of HP, and not as high or durable as other tank types. We have no artefact armour yet. Esoterics are coming out next week or something so the armour you see in the trialers might become available...but ** is the Dark Knight questline cooler than any of the others. You'll be sure to love it especially the Lvl 50 quest. The thing I find so amazing is you can be any class/job prior to doing the Dark Knight quest. So my Bard can be a DK. Yes, my filthy bard will become a Dark Knight. Though I have been tempted to take up Dragoon again since it seems Ishgard is the main domain of Heavensward. That in itself has got me pumped for this. I never understood the Dragoon/Bard hate. X\|V**
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:43:00 - [48] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Though I have been tempted to take up Dragoon again since it seems Ishgard is the main domain of Heavensward. That in itself has got me pumped for this. I never understood the Dragoon/Bard hate. As I understand it...... you guys are OP as ***. As for Dragoons.... I imagine because they look badass and don't do the sustained DPS of say a Monk, Ninja, etc. Aren't Dragoons something more akin to Massive Alpha that translates into DPS..... aka Gallente styles. Honestly the Dragoon was my first choice. Spears/polearms in any game are always my initial go to. But Aisha went Dragoon and I opted for a Tank class over Monk for accessibility to dungeons. Best choice I ever made. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.*
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:48:00 - [49] - Quote True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Though I have been tempted to take up Dragoon again since it seems Ishgard is the main domain of Heavensward. That in itself has got me pumped for this. I never understood the Dragoon/Bard hate. As I understand it...... you guys are OP as **. As for Dragoons.... I imagine because they look badass and don't do the sustained DPS of say a Monk, Ninja, etc. Aren't Dragoons something more akin to Massive Alpha that translates into DPS..... aka Gallente styles. Honestly the Dragoon was my first choice. Spears/polearms in any game are always my initial go to. But Aisha went Dragoon and I opted for a Tank class over Monk for accessibility to dungeons. Best choice I ever made. Hey, nobody can say I am a flavor chaser, as I have been Bard since it's inception Never go Monk, they are pain in the asses to use, Paladins/Warriors are far superior. I only do Monk for the lulz and then I rage and switch back to my Bard. Mostly anybody will pick one Warrior/Paladin in any raid. Then it goes Bard, and both Mages. X\|V**
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 02:48:00 - [50] - Quote True, may I ask, what system do you play ARR on? PS3? PS4? PC? X\|V

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 02:48:00 - [51] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: True, may I ask, what system do you play ARR on? PS3? PS4? PC? PS4 because I'm a real **** MMORPGer. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
TEBOW BAGGINS 1	Posted - 2015.07.17 02:51:00 - [52] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Pac-Man. Not joking, my father had a Pac-Man machine and I would always try to beat the first level. I never got past it. I don't even know if there is a level two. I miss those days. i always sucked at pac man even tho i would draw him all day in grade school, i remember having this weird crush on mrs. pac man, kinda creepy i know. she looked hot tho painted on the cabinet side.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 02:53:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: VAHZZ wrote: True, may I ask, what system do you play ARR on? PS3? PS4? PC? PS4 because I'm a real ** MMORPGer. I may need to get a PS4, because I would love to raid with you sometime. X\|V**
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.17 07:03:00 - [54] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: being a Keeper of the Moon Don't tell me you play a catgirl. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven 9	Posted - 2015.07.17 08:40:00 - [55] - Quote tag or hide and seek. Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you. I'm kind of a big deal. Get Dust ISK Here
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.17 08:43:00 - [56] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: tag or hide and seek. How witty.... I shall just sit here and marvel at how clever you must feel right now. Being overly literal about a rather clear subject. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
xavier zor Second-Nature Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.17 13:43:00 - [57] - Quote Tony hawk skating on PS2 selling 'Quafe' Methana, 'Roden' Scout G-1 + Roden G-1 light skin
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 23:43:00 - [58] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: VAHZZ wrote: being a Keeper of the Moon Don't tell me you play a catgirl. Catman, like TV's Adam West X\|V
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 916	Posted - 2015.07.18 00:17:00 - [59] - Quote Centipede. Atari 7800. Atleast im not some wierdos imaginary friend.
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 01:31:00 - [60] - Quote First game I owned? I think it was ice climbers on a gameboy, back when I was like 8 or something. First played? Can't remember. Might be GTA, but I can't remember if my older cousin let me play it or just let me sit and watch. *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*



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