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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.10 17:02:00 -
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3 "ranks"
Recruit 1 chevron , merc 2 chevron , officer 3 chevron
Recruit- 0-8m sp
Merc- 8-40m so
Officer-40+ sp
Simple match making. All recruits play against each other, all mercs play against each other, and all officers play against each other. Can only be bypasses by squad and only takes place in pubs
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
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Dzago Sevatarion
DUST University
Ivy League
64
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Posted - 2015.07.10 18:17:00 -
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But I like playing with / against people better than me. |
Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.07.10 18:25:00 -
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More SP =/= Good Player
Less SP =/= Bad Player
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.10 18:56:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:More SP =/= Good Player
Less SP =/= Bad Player
But it does give a rough indication. For example, I've never seen someone with 10M SP be better than someone with 40M SP.
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.10 19:20:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:More SP =/= Good Player
Less SP =/= Bad Player
But it does give a rough indication. For example, I've never seen someone with 10M SP be better than someone with 40M SP.
I do.
ALL THE TIME.
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Private Part's
sticky green's
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Posted - 2015.07.10 19:35:00 -
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It should be off your win loss ratios the only stat that actually matters who cares about kdr, wp, sp, as long as you secure the win, one day cpp might actually make that the objective of the game how cool would that be |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.10 19:48:00 -
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Private Part's wrote:It should be off your win loss ratios the only stat that actually matters who cares about kdr, wp, sp, as long as you secure the win, one day cpp might actually make that the objective of the game how cool would that be
It shouldn't. You know There's lots of people who leave losing battles. That would not work. Also, not everyone always wins.
Actuall skill points are the most effective source to use to distinguish players.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.07.10 19:49:00 -
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I joined the 50MILL+ Club a few days ago.
I got killed by a Frontline that was a recruit as stated by his rank.
The shame is eternal...
... If I had any.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.10 20:04:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:More SP =/= Good Player
Less SP =/= Bad Player
But it does give a rough indication. For example, I've never seen someone with 10M SP be better than someone with 40M SP. I do. ALL THE TIME.
I have like 85 M and I am pretty bad most of the time.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Private Part's
sticky green's
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Posted - 2015.07.10 20:11:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Private Part's wrote:It should be off your win loss ratios the only stat that actually matters who cares about kdr, wp, sp, as long as you secure the win, one day cpp might actually make that the objective of the game how cool would that be It shouldn't. You know There's lots of people who leave losing battles. That would not work. Also, not everyone always wins. Actuall skill points are the most effective source to use to distinguish players.
That's because win loss doesn't have much meaning currently and there's no penalty for leaving the match like a leaving stat that could effect what kinda games you can get into or the leaver just has to take a loss.
As for sp they can give you a greater advantage but there are some mercs who no mater how much sp they have acquired still are bad at the game or just make terrible choices on how to spend them.
The most effective way to actually distinguish players I think would be lifetime wp but I'm just making a suggestion here since I do agree that the current matchmaking system is pretty bad but it's better than nothing . |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.10 20:30:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Private Part's wrote:It should be off your win loss ratios the only stat that actually matters who cares about kdr, wp, sp, as long as you secure the win, one day cpp might actually make that the objective of the game how cool would that be It shouldn't. You know There's lots of people who leave losing battles. That would not work. Also, not everyone always wins. Actuall skill points are the most effective source to use to distinguish players.
SP, that thing that accumulates passively should be used to rank peoples skill? WP/death would be a far better way to determine any players general usefulness to their team.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
57
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:27:00 -
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I think it should be KDR. I don't care how many SP you have. If you put me down, you're better than me and vice versa. W/L is nice, but it's too easy to pad by leaving fights, or only playing with squads. Sure you can KDR pad by sniping, but the better the players chances are they'll be able to counter snipers better. Similarly, can be made by just being a logi. At it's heart Dust is a shooter, so the most accurate way to determine skill is how well you shoot.
Who needs gun game when you have kinetic catalyzers?
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Veg Hegirin
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:32:00 -
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Better matchmaking won't solve any problems. If you want a real fight go organize some PC |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:38:00 -
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Dzago Sevatarion wrote:But I like playing with / against people better than me.
Pay attention folks, this guy will suck for a shorter period than you whiners. |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:39:00 -
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Veg Hegirin wrote:Better matchmaking won't solve any problems. If you want a real fight go organize some PC
Please tell me you are a new player and not someone that explains Dust to new players. |
Private Part's
sticky green's
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:45:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:[quote=Private Part's]It should be off your win loss ratios the only stat that actually matters who cares about kdr, wp, sp, as long as you secure the win, one day cpp might actually make that the objective of the game how cool would that be It shouldn't. You know There's lots of people who leave losing battles. That would not work. Also, not everyone always wins. Actuall skill points are the most effective source to use to distinguish SP, that thing that accumulates passively should be used to rank peoples skill? WP/death would be a far better way to determine any players general usefulness to their team.
Sorry I miss spoke was in to big of a hurry to get out of the house. I meant lifetime war points. |
Ace Ravager
Horizons' Edge
No Context
103
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:41:00 -
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KDR- Getting stomped=no kills many deaths Stomping= Many kills little death
WP/Death- Logi WP farm time!!
SP- Possible just remove what is gained passively
Come here for some Officer Gear
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
4
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:51:00 -
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Yep.
What if I always get stuck with proto dudes because I have a bunch of SP? I dont run proto and I dont want to. What happens to me?
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
I am the Anti-FoTM
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:15:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Yep.
What if I always get stuck with proto dudes because I have a bunch of SP? I dont run proto and I dont want to. What happens to me?
I'm sorry but... GET GOOD. I don't know how you can have LOTS of sp and not be good. The first ripe you should master in dust is slayer because it's what most of the game is about. If you can't survive, I'm sorry.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:37:00 -
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The tier should be based on what suit you are willing to use. If a person is using a basic suit then fine. If they're truly good then let their skill show. In order to facilitate this there should be match slots. Maybe two slots that you select a fit for. You will then queue for your highest tier fitting and can only use those fittings for that match. Vehicles could then be counted as a fitting slot and you spawn in the vehicle. You've just solved another problem of scrubs double dipping and jumping out of vehicles with AV.
Right now the protostomping so called good players are moving to MD, REs, PLCs and grenade spam in commando suits to hide their lack of skill. I'm seeing nothing but heavy suits and/or spaming explosive AOE weapons and kepeing distance. No fun game anymore now that noobs can stack and pack on the objective like the vets.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:39:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Yep.
What if I always get stuck with proto dudes because I have a bunch of SP? I dont run proto and I dont want to. What happens to me? I'm sorry but... GET GOOD. I don't know how you can have LOTS of sp and not be good. The first ripe you should master in dust is slayer because it's what most of the game is about. If you can't survive, I'm sorry.
NO! That is not the answer. It goes beyond that and this simplistic mentality is killing the game. It becomes boring and predictable.
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Dzago Sevatarion
DUST University
Ivy League
68
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Posted - 2015.07.11 03:21:00 -
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Not much in this game is more fun than downing a prototype suit user in pubs with standard / militia gear and then terminating their clone. So much money down the drain. 
Sure I don't do it much but it'd suck to never be able to do it at all because of Scotty. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
4
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Posted - 2015.07.11 06:05:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Yep.
What if I always get stuck with proto dudes because I have a bunch of SP? I dont run proto and I dont want to. What happens to me? I'm sorry but... GET GOOD. I don't know how you can have LOTS of sp and not be good. The first ripe you should master in dust is slayer because it's what most of the game is about. If you can't survive, I'm sorry. NO! That is not the answer. It goes beyond that and this simplistic mentality is killing the game. It becomes boring and predictable.
Not only that, I really doubt his reading comprehension skill has been trained past I...
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