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olssam 62
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:29:00 -
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look patch notes - Gameplay
http://dust514.com/news/2015/07/warlords-1.2-overview-patch-notes/
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:32:00 -
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So i assume i can upgrade my ammunitions subsystem to lvl 8 and get 9% more damage? Thats if you are silly enough to dump 500Gé¼ onto it lol.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:39:00 -
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That's pretty much a confirmation of a port or P2W.
I'll have 10 Victoria's Secret sex robots by the time I could skill a warbarge to L8. |
Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
16
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:49:00 -
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Yeah I'm not overly excited, just because of the cost. LVL 5 takes 51k warbarge components and something like a 30 day wait period to be able to upgrade it from level 4. The delay and cost for 6 and up? Insane considering you get a mere 100 components a day per level of the factory and rewards from battle are scarce. You can get any where from 30 to 300 far as I've seen as salvage rewards from pub matches. The problem, you can play 20-30 matches in a day and get maybe one batch of war barge, if your lucky it's not just a lousy 30.
Mission rewards usually hover at about 250 or so each, and rewards from boxes is any where from 300ish to 1000 max that I have seen, but also rather rare to get any.
Obviously the best thing they could do is to increase the drop rate from battle/missions/boxes. That won't break much of anything too bad. Other adjustments though might just screw over people who already invested in their warbarge. Currently off just the Factory level 4 it takes a little over 100 days to get the 51k you need. It would make level 6 take half a year, lvl 8? Good luck you might get it in 2 or 3 years.
I suppose you could also make level 6 another, improved kind of factory to keep up with this cost. it's not quite as expensive to upgrade the warbarge itself as it is the stuff itself. |
Pierced Daddy
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
253
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Posted - 2015.07.06 19:42:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Yeah I'm not overly excited, just because of the cost. LVL 5 takes 51k warbarge components and something like a 30 day wait period to be able to upgrade it from level 4. The delay and cost for 6 and up? Insane considering you get a mere 100 components a day per level of the factory and rewards from battle are scarce. You can get any where from 30 to 300 far as I've seen as salvage rewards from pub matches. The problem, you can play 20-30 matches in a day and get maybe one batch of war barge, if your lucky it's not just a lousy 30.
Mission rewards usually hover at about 250 or so each, and rewards from boxes is any where from 300ish to 1000 max that I have seen, but also rather rare to get any.
Obviously the best thing they could do is to increase the drop rate from battle/missions/boxes. That won't break much of anything too bad. Other adjustments though might just screw over people who already invested in their warbarge. Currently off just the Factory level 4 it takes a little over 100 days to get the 51k you need. It would make level 6 take half a year, lvl 8? Good luck you might get it in 2 or 3 years.
I suppose you could also make level 6 another, improved kind of factory to keep up with this cost. it's not quite as expensive to upgrade the warbarge itself as it is the stuff itself.
I agree with your post but....
I have on numerous times gotten 3000+ WB components from boxes. I regularly get 2000+ WB components
I was hoping with the expansion of the WB meant near future systems expanding. |
2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
914
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Posted - 2015.07.06 19:52:00 -
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What do the 3 new levels unlock? Guessing clone production, cp production & dk production.
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
658
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:02:00 -
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2Berries wrote:What do the 3 new levels unlock? Guessing clone production, cp production & dk production.
There's no chance it'll be those things.
They don't want passive CP production. |
Skullmiser Vulcansu
316
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:08:00 -
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What a nightmare. I've only just now gotten my war-barge to level five. I've only ever upgraded my mobile factory, and it's only level four still. It's just not possible for me to keep up with this part of the game.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:39:00 -
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thor424 wrote:2Berries wrote:What do the 3 new levels unlock? Guessing clone production, cp production & dk production. There's no chance it'll be those things. They don't want passive CP production. They also didn't want Paid Respecs ever.
Times change. *shrug*
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:46:00 -
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2Berries wrote:What do the 3 new levels unlock? Guessing clone production, cp production & dk production.
But I do not want a bunch of Donkey Kongs in my warbarge dammit.
Haters gonna hate.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
660
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:49:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:thor424 wrote:2Berries wrote:What do the 3 new levels unlock? Guessing clone production, cp production & dk production. There's no chance it'll be those things. They don't want passive CP production. They also didn't want Paid Respecs ever. Times change. *shrug*
We've done passive PC rewards before. |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
806
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:52:00 -
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Either they are corp stuff, or maybe small aur, corp isk...... Idk really. This hurts my head.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University Ivy League
919
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:53:00 -
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It had better unlock the microbrewery or my merc is keeping his AUR.
GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
99
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:59:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:So i assume i can upgrade my ammunitions subsystem to lvl 8 and get 9% more damage? Thats if you are silly enough to dump 500Gé¼ onto it lol.
If I recall correctly, which I'm pretty sure I am, it was stated that it the augmented ammunition will not go any further then 5 percent..... even though other systems will be able to go further than 5.....
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
395
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Posted - 2015.07.06 21:18:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:So i assume i can upgrade my ammunitions subsystem to lvl 8 and get 9% more damage? Thats if you are silly enough to dump 500Gé¼ onto it lol. If I recall correctly, which I'm pretty sure I am, it was stated that it the augmented ammunition will not go any further then 5 percent..... even though other systems will be able to go further than 5..... Not true |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.07 06:09:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:So i assume i can upgrade my ammunitions subsystem to lvl 8 and get 9% more damage? Thats if you are silly enough to dump 500Gé¼ onto it lol. If I recall correctly, which I'm pretty sure I am, it was stated that it the augmented ammunition will not go any further then 5 percent..... even though other systems will be able to go further than 5.....
I challenge you to find where that is said by a CCP representative
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.07 06:11:00 -
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Translation: CCP got REALLY greedy.
Chances are they want to see how much ppl will pay for those damage percentages.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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deezy dabest
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.07.07 07:07:00 -
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Good catch.
I browsed right over that for:
- lack of caring
- trying to ignore CCPs absolute commitment to cash grabbing
- more lack of caring
- laughter at whoever is dumb enough to spend that much. (coming from a guy that has spent a couple hundred on strongboxes alone that is pretty bad)
- even more lack of caring
- disappointment that CCP is going to push the p2w envelope as far as they can with minimal effort
- just a little more lack of caring
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.07.07 07:38:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Insane considering you get a mere 100 components a day per level of the factory and rewards from battle are scarce. You can get any where from 30 to 300 far as I've seen as salvage rewards from pub matches. The problem, you can play 20-30 matches in a day and get maybe one batch of war barge, if your lucky it's not just a lousy 30.
Mission rewards usually hover at about 250 or so each, and rewards from boxes is any where from 300ish to 1000 max that I have seen, but also rather rare to get any.
Obviously the best thing they could do is to increase the drop rate from battle/missions/boxes. That won't break much of anything too bad. Other adjustments though might just screw over people who already invested in their warbarge. Currently off just the Factory level 4 it takes a little over 100 days to get the 51k you need. It would make level 6 take half a year, lvl 8? Good luck you might get it in 2 or 3 years.
I suppose you could also make level 6 another, improved kind of factory to keep up with this cost. it's not quite as expensive to upgrade the warbarge itself as it is the stuff itself. You can upgrade your component subsystem to create more than one hundred a day. If you haven't upgraded it yet, then you have been waiting longer than you have needed to.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros
857
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Posted - 2015.07.07 11:46:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Yeah I'm not overly excited, just because of the cost. LVL 5 takes 51k warbarge components and something like a 30 day wait period to be able to upgrade it from level 4. The delay and cost for 6 and up? Insane considering you get a mere 100 components a day per level of the factory and rewards from battle are scarce. You can get any where from 30 to 300 far as I've seen as salvage rewards from pub matches. The problem, you can play 20-30 matches in a day and get maybe one batch of war barge, if your lucky it's not just a lousy 30.
Mission rewards usually hover at about 250 or so each, and rewards from boxes is any where from 300ish to 1000 max that I have seen, but also rather rare to get any.
Obviously the best thing they could do is to increase the drop rate from battle/missions/boxes. That won't break much of anything too bad. Other adjustments though might just screw over people who already invested in their warbarge. Currently off just the Factory level 4 it takes a little over 100 days to get the 51k you need. It would make level 6 take half a year, lvl 8? Good luck you might get it in 2 or 3 years.
I suppose you could also make level 6 another, improved kind of factory to keep up with this cost. it's not quite as expensive to upgrade the warbarge itself as it is the stuff itself. if youre actively playing pubs each day thats almost 2k components |
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
16
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Posted - 2015.07.07 13:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Insane considering you get a mere 100 components a day per level of the factory and rewards from battle are scarce. You can get any where from 30 to 300 far as I've seen as salvage rewards from pub matches. The problem, you can play 20-30 matches in a day and get maybe one batch of war barge, if your lucky it's not just a lousy 30.
Mission rewards usually hover at about 250 or so each, and rewards from boxes is any where from 300ish to 1000 max that I have seen, but also rather rare to get any.
Obviously the best thing they could do is to increase the drop rate from battle/missions/boxes. That won't break much of anything too bad. Other adjustments though might just screw over people who already invested in their warbarge. Currently off just the Factory level 4 it takes a little over 100 days to get the 51k you need. It would make level 6 take half a year, lvl 8? Good luck you might get it in 2 or 3 years.
I suppose you could also make level 6 another, improved kind of factory to keep up with this cost. it's not quite as expensive to upgrade the warbarge itself as it is the stuff itself. You can upgrade your component subsystem to create more than one hundred a day. If you haven't upgraded it yet, then you have been waiting longer than you have needed to.
What I said is it was 100 per level, not that I have at the standard 100. As for the other post good luck at getting 2k a day out of pub matches. Many a time I've played matches all day to barely come out with 600 or less if I'm lucky. To the other poster who mentioned getting 3k from the salvage boxes, it must be pretty rare. I maybe get war barge components out of the boxes 1 in 10 times of opening a full ten boxes, and so far all mine have been a pretty low 400-1000ish in size. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.07 13:49:00 -
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The reasoning for my strong opinion above (moneygrab) is that new higher warbarge levels
- Come out thin blue air, with no previous talk about it
- No new gameplay content or depth assosiated with it.
- VERY strong bonuses available: that augmented weapons +X % is stupidly strong feature, almost game balance breaking. As is 6% wasn't sick enough... Also, officer gear factory is strong.
- The extreme price: next level after this patch: 92k components = 276k AUR = roughly 130 bucks RL money!
In essence, the new warbarge levels are just extreme gain for extreme cost.
The wait versus the cost granting the power is an equasion which for the first time strikes to me as somewhat P2W feature. Never I've called any dust thingy that, but for this I say there are signs of it and it is at least partially true.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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