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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2015.07.06 17:34:00 -
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The Warbarge is new since I quit a year ago. What's it good for and what is the best way to fit/run it? I searched but oddly couldn't find a dev blog or post on it. |
Nomzi
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Posted - 2015.07.08 03:34:00 -
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From what I've learned, you get daily rewards - skill points, ISK, warbage components to continue upgrading with, and a chance to get some cool stuff from the experimental lab. thingy (experimental weapons, officer weapons, officer dropsuits)... you kinda get it? I'm bad at explaining things |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.10 03:31:00 -
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Skihids wrote:The Warbarge is new since I quit a year ago. What's it good for and what is the best way to fit/run it? I searched but oddly couldn't find a dev blog or post on it.
Holy Crap!!
! Is this THEE Skihids? The VETERAN from 2011/2012, long before I even learned there was a game called Dust?
Players, salute! Skihids is the author of the still-accessible Dropship Flight School Thread,GǪ considered by most DS players to be the NATOPS of Dropship operation (err, NATOPS is the flight bible for US navy fighter pilots, for those who didn't know). Skihids' thread is the bst thing I've ever seen written about the DS. If you're that same player, salutes to you Skihids!
It's an honor to try to answer your question: The Warbarge is the only "spaceship" from EVE game world, that a Dust player is able to own. We can't fly it, but it acts as a personal chamber in space holding all your accumulated wealth, like a free storage garage. This garage has enough internal power and CPU to generate "warbarge components", a sort of sustainable 'nanobot' material that the warbarge in turn stores up in its holding-bay for future use, and uses to build its own additional internal operating sections. Each section that is built (called a "subsystem") becomes its own sustainable small-scale factory, churning away inside the hull of the warbarge,GǪ like a mini version of the mining setups EVE Online players can create.
GǪBut the primary internal factory, the Warbarge-Components factory, is the key to running and improving everything else in the barge.
I suspect that in the future there will be subsystem factories in your warbarge that can experiment on captured vehicles/gear that you looted from your battles, or make communications with black market agents willing to buy your salvage more profitably than Jara Kumora, or grind up the broken scrap parts from your salvage, or repair your broken scrap to increase their resale value. But for now, there are only 5 subsystem-factories you can build in your warbarge. Not all of them will interest you the same, but you have no choice about WHICH subsystem you want and don't want---the subsystems must be unlocked in sequential order.
As long as the first subsystem, the warbarge-component factory, has produced a huge enough pile of components (I recommend producing a pile of 9000 or so first), you can unlock a subsystem and "upgrade" its output whenever you please, 1, then 2, then 3. But think CAREFULLY about rushing to unlock each new subsystem right away. Doing so not only takes more and more warbarge components, but also pushes the warbarge to go offline cooldown phase, leaving you waiting for days before you can reactivate the darn barge and collect any of its produced goodies.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.10 04:09:00 -
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GǪ.Oh, and my best tips for wisely managing your warbage:
1. Without a healthy weekly output of components from your warbarge-component factory, you can't unlock or upgrade anything in your your barge. So invest a LITTLE (don't go overboard) of you components supply to upgrade the factory one level or so first. THEN, stockpile the components the factory produces until you have a big 12,000 components in your hands before you unlock any other subsystems or go crazy upgrading your component-factory any further. Stockpiling warbarge components may take 2 or 3 weeks to farm, so Patient Players achieve happier results than the Impatient Players. The warbarge is just another "grind-over-time" part of the EVE world.
2. DON'T be greedy, upgrading every subsystem-factory up to MAX Level 8 (oh my Lourde!). That's the same New Eden trap that we fell for with our SP-grinding in this game, and already some players say they regretted spending so many components boosting to the "next upgrade level". I think it makes more "Railroad-Baron" sense to stockpile a mountain of warbarge components in preparation for whatever future subsystem factories CCP may invent, than to blow tons of good components just to tweak up factory output a bit more.
3. Always stockpile MORE than you estimate you'll need to do that next unlock. The subsystem unlock process is preset to cost you X-amount of wasted components--you can't avoid this. Even if you like a subsystem factory #9 and don't care about factories #7 and #8, the warbage won't let you select #9 to unlockGǪ.you're going to have to take X-amount of your warbarge components (an amount it took you a whole 2 danged weeks to produce)GǪ and WASTE them unlocking 'Boredom Subsystem 6', 'Awful Subsystem 7', and 'W-T-F Subsystem 8',GǪ just to reach "Jackpot Subsystem 9'.
4. and MOST important! Make sure your PS3 console has the correct date and time set on it! Even the right daylight savings time setting. The warbarge uses your PS3's clock to trigger its Cooldown Periods. If your console's clock is set to the proper time, a cooldown period will last several days (as designed). If you've got the wrong date on your PS3 clock, the Cooldown Clock will start showing wacky "negative" countdowns, and your warbarge won't recover from cooldown for WEEKS or longer.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.10 15:33:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:Skihids wrote:The Warbarge is new since I quit a year ago. What's it good for and what is the best way to fit/run it? I searched but oddly couldn't find a dev blog or post on it. Holy Crap!! ! Is this THEE Skihids? The VETERAN from 2011/2012, long before I even learned there was a game called Dust? Players, salute! Skihids is the author of the still-accessible Dropship Flight School Thread,GǪ considered by most DS players to be the NATOPS of Dropship operation (err, NATOPS is the flight bible for US navy fighter pilots, for those who didn't know). Skihids' thread is the bst thing I've ever seen written about the DS. If you're that same player, salutes to you Skihids! It's an honor to try to answer your question: The Warbarge is the only "spaceship" from EVE game world, that a Dust player is able to own. We can't fly it, but it acts as a personal chamber in space holding all your accumulated wealth, like a free storage garage. This garage has enough internal power and CPU to generate "warbarge components", a sort of sustainable 'nanobot' material that the warbarge in turn stores up in its holding-bay for future use, and uses to build its own additional internal operating sections. Each section that is built (called a "subsystem") becomes its own sustainable small-scale factory, churning away inside the hull of the warbarge,GǪ like a mini version of the mining setups EVE Online players can create. GǪBut the primary internal factory, the Warbarge-Components factory, is the key to running and improving everything else in the barge. I suspect that in the future there will be subsystem factories in your warbarge that can experiment on captured vehicles/gear that you looted from your battles, or make communications with black market agents willing to buy your salvage more profitably than Jara Kumora, or grind up the broken scrap parts from your salvage, or repair your broken scrap to increase their resale value. But for now, there are only 5 subsystem-factories you can build in your warbarge. Not all of them will interest you the same, but you have no choice about WHICH subsystem you want and don't want---the subsystems must be unlocked in sequential order. As long as the first subsystem, the warbarge-component factory, has produced a huge enough pile of components (I recommend producing a pile of 9000 or so first), you can unlock a subsystem and "upgrade" its output whenever you please, 1, then 2, then 3. But think CAREFULLY about rushing to unlock each new subsystem right away. Doing so not only takes more and more warbarge components, but also pushes the warbarge to go offline cooldown phase, leaving you waiting for days before you can reactivate the darn barge and collect any of its produced goodies.
o.O I just started reading his DS school post a few days ago.. then found a video series on in becuz (Visual learner maybe?) ... It is the best thing ever written... and that video told me pretty much what his posts said So I believe it was him... Maybe not.
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Skihids
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.10 19:37:00 -
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Wow, thanks for remembering my Flightschool thread. It's been so long I fiigured it was burried in the forum archives. I'm happy that it still has relevaance, though sad that CCP hasn't integrated dropships into the game in a way that makes them as valuable as they should be. The videos aren't mine. I planned on producing a series but soomeone beeat me to the punch.
Thanks for the Warrbarge explanation and tips. That is the most thourough explanation I've gotten. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.11 23:40:00 -
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Skihids?
That's not a name I've seen in a long time.
Yeah, I remember your flight school thread. I made my first forays into dropshipping because of that thread.
I can't really cover the warbarge much more than has already been said, but I will add my personal opinion.
I feel that the only part of the warbarge worth your time is the experimental weapons lab. It produces officer gear and is genuinely useful. If you have your factory at 4 and your lab at 2 (IIRC) you can maintain a constant flow of 4 items/day.
Other than that the warbarge requires a prohibitively high investment of AUR and I'd stay away from it.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.12 03:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Skihids?
GǪ.Other than that the warbarge requires a prohibitively high investment of AUR and I'd stay away from it.
I very much agree with Arkena's last line, here. If you're a casual player, a weekender player, or still a student in Battle Academy phase, don't allow yourself to be sidetracked into warbarge mining.
It's definitely a device for Dust-Investor's only,GǪ profit-seekers seasoned in "wealth-mangement", and prospective use of Aurum and Warbarge-componentsGǪ ...you know, the stuff that made JP Morgan successful.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:29:00 -
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I spent somewhere in the region of 80k on mine and will forever regret it.
I get officer gear for my troubles, I guess, but it wasn't anywhere near worth it.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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