DUST Search - Weapons variant and range control

Evan Gotabor wrote:

What IGÇÖm suggesting is to create/remake the weapon variant on 4 rifles. The aim would be to have 3 variant for each weapons that are adapted to gameplay based on distance. The major thing about it would be to add to each weapon a mechanic similar to the laser rifle. Over or under a certain range, the weapon become useless. The end objective would be to make every rifle able to deal with every kind of range while promoting each race basical doctrine.

IGÇÖll take Caldari as an exemple, their main way to do is to use long range weapons. So the idea would be to make their long range rifle the best long range weapon. On the other side, their short range variant is to be less efficient than the Plasma rifle as plasma is the main way to go to deal with. But less efficient donGÇÖt mean itGÇÖs not as deadlyGÇª

This is a raw proposition with barely any numbers (the distances need adjustments), itGÇÖs just to give an idea and see what the community/devs think about it.

Plasma Rifle
Standard variant (short) 0-20 meters
Incursion variant (middle) 15-30 meters
Tactic variant (long) 30-55 meters

Rail Rifle
Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters
Incursion variant (middle) 20-45 meters
Standard variant (long) 45-85 meters

Projectile Rifle
Assault variant (short) 0-20 meters
Standard variant (middle) 20-40 meters
Tactic variant (long) 40-65 meters

Scrambler Rifle
Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters
Salvo variant (middle) 25-50 meters
Standard variant (middle) 45-80 meters

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Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 192	Posted - 2015.06.29 10:53:00 - [1] - Quote What IGÇÖm suggesting is to create/remake the weapon variant on 4 rifles. The aim would be to have 3 variant for each weapons that are adapted to gameplay based on distance. The major thing about it would be to add to each weapon a mechanic similar to the laser rifle. Over or under a certain range, the weapon become useless. The end objective would be to make every rifle able to deal with every kind of range while promoting each race basical doctrine. IGÇÖll take Caldari as an exemple, their main way to do is to use long range weapons. So the idea would be to make their long range rifle the best long range weapon. On the other side, their short range variant is to be less efficient than the Plasma rifle as plasma is the main way to go to deal with. But less efficient donGÇÖt mean itGÇÖs not as deadlyGÇª This is a raw proposition with barely any numbers (the distances need adjustments), itGÇÖs just to give an idea and see what the community/devs think about it. Plasma Rifle Standard variant (short) 0-20 meters Incursion variant (middle) 15-30 meters Tactic variant (long) 30-55 meters Rail Rifle Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters Incursion variant (middle) 20-45 meters Standard variant (long) 45-85 meters Projectile Rifle Assault variant (short) 0-20 meters Standard variant (middle) 20-40 meters Tactic variant (long) 40-65 meters Scrambler Rifle Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters Salvo variant (middle) 25-50 meters Standard variant (middle) 45-80 meters Prima Gallicus diplomat New Eden France, actualités Dust Eve et Valkyrie en français
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 149	Posted - 2015.07.01 04:01:00 - [2] - Quote Ah-huh, ah-huh, aaah-huuhh. (Short answer, I know this is just a raw proposition, but those number's? No, this game need's proper scientifical range's, if an M4 Carbine can hit 300+ meter's then the combat rifle should do the same, and the rail rifle double of that, Plasma weapon's shouldn't/wouldn't be terribly ranged they'd more than likely fall 100 meter's short and laser? Probably in between plasma and projectile. Personal Opinion Stated ). When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 05:49:00 - [3] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Ah-huh, ah-huh, aaah-huuhh. (Short answer, I know this is just a raw proposition, but those number's? No, this game need's proper scientifical range's, if an M4 Carbine can hit 300+ meter's then the combat rifle should do the same, and the rail rifle double of that, Plasma weapon's shouldn't/wouldn't be terribly ranged they'd more than likely fall 100 meter's short and laser? Probably in between plasma and projectile. Personal Opinion Stated ). Gameplay > Realism. Not smart to compare dust to real life. Sci-fi ground battles are really anachronistic to be honest. Future wars will not be fought like WW2 with lasers. Realistic weapon ranges (not to mention what future combat tech would really function like) would make gameplay impossible. Official CPM Platform
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 05:55:00 - [4] - Quote Evan Gotabor wrote: What IGÇÖm suggesting is to create/remake the weapon variant on 4 rifles. The aim would be to have 3 variant for each weapons that are adapted to gameplay based on distance. The major thing about it would be to add to each weapon a mechanic similar to the laser rifle. Over or under a certain range, the weapon become useless. The end objective would be to make every rifle able to deal with every kind of range while promoting each race basical doctrine. IGÇÖll take Caldari as an exemple, their main way to do is to use long range weapons. So the idea would be to make their long range rifle the best long range weapon. On the other side, their short range variant is to be less efficient than the Plasma rifle as plasma is the main way to go to deal with. But less efficient donGÇÖt mean itGÇÖs not as deadlyGÇª This is a raw proposition with barely any numbers (the distances need adjustments), itGÇÖs just to give an idea and see what the community/devs think about it. Plasma Rifle Standard variant (short) 0-20 meters Incursion variant (middle) 15-30 meters Tactic variant (long) 30-55 meters Rail Rifle Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters Incursion variant (middle) 20-45 meters Standard variant (long) 45-85 meters Projectile Rifle Assault variant (short) 0-20 meters Standard variant (middle) 20-40 meters Tactic variant (long) 40-65 meters Scrambler Rifle Assault variant (short) 5-25 meters Salvo variant (middle) 25-50 meters Standard variant (middle) 45-80 meters I think the better solition is to remove pre-made variants altogether. Instead, every merc should start with the base model of a particular weapon, and customize it from there. The result would be a player more-or-less turning the weapons into the variant they want. Official CPM Platform
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 192	Posted - 2015.07.01 07:54:00 - [5] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Ah-huh, ah-huh, aaah-huuhh. (Short answer, I know this is just a raw proposition, but those number's? No, this game need's proper scientifical range's, if an M4 Carbine can hit 300+ meter's then the combat rifle should do the same, and the rail rifle double of that, Plasma weapon's shouldn't/wouldn't be terribly ranged they'd more than likely fall 100 meter's short and laser? Probably in between plasma and projectile. Personal Opinion Stated ). If I want to play a FPS and kill anyone at any range, I'll go on battlefield. However, like the devs mentionned not that long ago Dust is supposed to be a TACTICAL shooter. Except that there is nothing tactical with some of the rifles able to hit at full damage from 0 to 80 meters. Aside, if you want Dust to be realistic, you can also make some proposition about how LAVs reacts on bumps and ditches Prima Gallicus diplomat

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