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Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:39:00 - [1] - Quote Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad.
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 3	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote I agee to an extent, but don't use the word innocent, no one is innocent here. Want some Nostalgia?
Nirwanda Vaughns 1	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:41:00 - [3] - Quote i been trading with one guy and he's so honesty and trusting he sent me like 4 SKINS before i even sent an ISK. done some great trades with him though. Just need to find some trust worthy guys on the forums and find a middle man for guys who are a bit dodgy You'll never have enough ISK to buy my C-II BPO
Jadek Manaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 27	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:44:00 - [4] - Quote As always, the trello is one resource to use in order to help setting up trades and verifying sellers and currently know scammers. https://trello.com/b/9rvQwtvG/dust-bunny-day-traders
Thorin Avarice Avarice Defense Industries 16	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:47:00 - [5] - Quote Welcome to New Eden my good man. I am not trying to be mean or anything but scamming has been in Eve Online since long before I started playing year's ago. CCP has not done anything on there to stop it other then ban people who use bot's to spam local. But if/when they put player market in like on eve it will help some but not that much. But if you want to try and get people to stop scamming a step you could take is to get there names on a form page and maybe try and get some proof like a video or a few pic's to warn players of them but this fight is one thing that will be there till long after you move on to some other game and even then you might have to deal with it there as well.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 129	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:48:00 - [6] - Quote Player Tip: Trade with friend's, corp, and alliance. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Jadek Manaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 27	Posted - 2015.06.25 23:49:00 - [7] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. Everyone can fulfill a role/niche in this game's established universe. I am not upset at what they do and encourage players to pursue what they are good at. If they hold proficient guile in order to relieve players of their in-game assets that is totally fine with me. I will simply make a note of it in the the blacklist scoreboard on Trello.
Legit Merchant Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:00:00 - [8] - Quote Selling tons of skins, cheap. Only 20 mill each. Act fast, they won't last long
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 31	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:00:00 - [9] - Quote Welcome to New Eden.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 373	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:03:00 - [10] - Quote only trade with reputable people those that cannot afford to tarnish their name, do not trade with randoms and even if there is a middleman make sure that middleman is trustworthy https://dust514.com/recruit/kWK05m/

Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:05:00 - [11] - Quote Stop with the 'welcome to new Eden' bs. I've played dust for over 2 years and have dabbled with eve. I'm not by any means new. Eve at least has a market system where you can set items up for sale at a price. In dust every trade feels like an awkward hostage release.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:08:00 - [12] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. If you don't feel comfortable making a trade... don't make the trade. It was designed as a simple system for a reason. You do not need to trade. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
axis alpha Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 729	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:09:00 - [13] - Quote All u gotta do is reset Windows before the trade then in will give you back you're loot. Ancient Chinese Secret. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:14:00 - [14] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. If you don't feel comfortable making a trade... don't make the trade. It was designed as a simple system for a reason. You do not need to trade. Or there could be a simple trade system. So people interested in running a business actually could.
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:41:00 - [15] - Quote Use a trusted 3rd party. XD TheYoutube XD
Clips A'hoy Incorruptibles 263	Posted - 2015.06.26 00:57:00 - [16] - Quote His eyes sparkled at the sight of a rarity The seller, oblivious, noticed no abnormality 'Let's make a deal,' in a gulible tonality No doubt. No uncertainty in mind 'Sure, for 23 million.' 'You first - little fortune found in keeping it,' he answered In pause his smitten quip, no query created Desperately in need of ISK he sent with feathers ruffled Excitedly, tetchy, snappy but no payment. 'I've been scammed!?,' he thought '... unacceptable' His cries ignored 'It's unpalatable, unwarrantable!' The scammer, remorseful but all adroitedly faigned 'CCP unconcerned, indifferent, doesn't play housemaid for you sycophants' I sometimes fill my bathtub with Jell-o, then I proceed to curl up and pretend I'm a fetus.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:26:00 - [17] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. If you don't feel comfortable making a trade... don't make the trade. It was designed as a simple system for a reason. You do not need to trade. Or there could be a simple trade system. So people interested in running a business actually could. Dust514 is a videogame. You are not running a business. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 850	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:54:00 - [18] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: only trade with reputable people those that cannot afford to tarnish their name, do not trade with randoms and even if there is a middleman make sure that middleman is trustworthy For one, trade with people whom you know that they are on their main or you know who their main is (e.g. All my chars have Operative and a number before their names). Also, people that post here in the forums have a reputation to protect (if they know what's good for them). I for one wouldn't want this character to get a bad rep from trading. But yeah, what we have now is not a proper in-game trade mechanic like EVE. We need contract mechanics as EVE does. I'm not going to believe that is complicated to add to the game. As a matter of fact that is a good thing to add to my CPM platform. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:55:00 - [19] - Quote Sounds like you've been scammed. Welcome to New Eden, get used to it. Ask for skin first or pay half before the rest after. Or know the seller. Simple ways to avoid stupid mistakes. Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout `Open Beta Vet - 46.5 mil sp Director of Corrosive Synergy`
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy No Context 954	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:57:00 - [20] - Quote inb4welcometoneweden dammit someone already said that ******* bullshit how people can steal 20$ worth of money imo my only proto dropsuit command 5

PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 01:57:00 - [21] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Stop with the 'welcome to new Eden' bs. I've played dust for over 2 years and have dabbled with eve. I'm not by any means new. Eve at least has a market system where you can set items up for sale at a price. In dust every trade feels like an awkward hostage release. Ok then, Farewell from New Eden! Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout `Open Beta Vet - 46.5 mil sp Director of Corrosive Synergy`
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 02:34:00 - [22] - Quote Lol you guys are such losers and really can't accept the fact that a simple trading system would help dust. It's like going to McDonald's, paying for a meal, and then watching the cashier disappear into thin air. Welcome to new Eden bch. Lol **** off
jordy mack WarRavens 568	Posted - 2015.06.26 02:40:00 - [23] - Quote no, seriously.... welcome. Less QQ more PewPew
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 238	Posted - 2015.06.26 02:43:00 - [24] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Lol you guys are such losers and really can't accept the fact that a simple trading system would help dust. It's like going to McDonald's, paying for a meal, and then watching the cashier disappear into thin air. Welcome to new Eden bch. Lol **** off Do the fries at least come with the scam. Or maybe the toy. I want the toy,flux the meal. Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Batteskirts for the win!!
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 03:05:00 - [25] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Lol you guys are such losers and really can't accept the fact that a simple trading system would help dust. It's like going to McDonald's, paying for a meal, and then watching the cashier disappear into thin air. Welcome to new Eden bch. Lol **** off Do the fries at least come with the scam. Or maybe the toy. I want the toy,flux the meal. Na you get nothing. No happy meal
SHADOWBlood ASSASSIN The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 252	Posted - 2015.06.26 03:18:00 - [26] - Quote Alright... Let's get one thing straight. Trading is not forced. It's not something you are required to do to advance in the game. If you are worried about getting scammed, don't ******* trade. Or, buy at a higher price from Hadah. He's got some SKINs I sold him that he'll try to turn a profit to and he's selling them in the Black Market. Sometimes, paying the extra 5 mil is better than losing 30 mil. You have NO SAY in how trading turns out. NONE. You aren't going to influence CCP by making a post trashing the current system. If you want them to even think about change, you oughta try to be constructive. Honestly, the system is working exactly as intended, so get off CCP's back. Dual Tanking on Cal suits isn't a sin. Try it out and stop saying shields are gimped.
Patrick57 10	Posted - 2015.06.26 03:22:00 - [27] - Quote Clips A'hoy wrote: His eyes sparkled at the sight of a rarity The seller, oblivious, noticed no abnormality 'Let's make a deal,' in a gulible tonality No doubt. No uncertainty in mind 'Sure, for 23 million.' 'You first - little fortune found in keeping it,' he answered In pause his smitten quip, no query created Desperately in need of ISK he sent with feathers ruffled Excitedly, tetchy, snappy but no payment. 'I've been scammed!?,' he thought '... unacceptable' His cries ignored 'It's unpalatable, unwarrantable!' The scammer, remorseful but all adroitedly faigned 'CCP unconcerned, indifferent, doesn't play housemaid for you sycophants' ...poem_for_your_sprog? save the world from dihydrogen monoxide fact: 100% of people that consume dihydrogen monoxide die http://www.dhmo.org
Sly Marb0 Scrub Squad F5ed 22	Posted - 2015.06.26 03:43:00 - [28] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. If you don't feel comfortable making a trade... don't make the trade. It was designed as a simple system for a reason. You do not need to trade. Or there could be a simple trade system. So people interested in running a business actually could. Dust514 is a videogame. You are not running a business. You think this is a game? You must really be new.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.26 04:22:00 - [29] - Quote Welcome to New Eden: scamming is a way of life. What's out of control is the stupidity of people who take the bait, not scamming. Not caring about KD
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 472	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:22:00 - [30] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. If you don't feel comfortable making a trade... don't make the trade. It was designed as a simple system for a reason. You do not need to trade. Or there could be a simple trade system. So people interested in running a business actually could. This is a really good idea. This could be a first step to a player-driven, regulated economic system within Dust. Isn't that kind of like what Eve has?

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 06:38:00 - [31] - Quote Scamming is not out of control nor is it wrong. But what is pathetic is that instead of player trading we have only GIFT Item and GIFT isk options. That is like beaten off unwanted bastard child of a trade system. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 204	Posted - 2015.06.26 08:48:00 - [32] - Quote I can agree that currently, it is too easy to be scammed. A trading window would be nice. I'm fine with the idea of people being able to scam, but perhaps adding a 1-5mil isk fee, high value asset safe trade would be nice. An optional insurance measure speciffically for very valuable trades is nice. Trustworthy people can act as middlemen for a smaller fee, or you can take a risk. Spending more than 10mil on something, you might consider it. Or just buy from a friend/trusted party without it. I can only see that as a boon to people who like to trade on the side. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 09:10:00 - [33] - Quote ISK up front. Always YouTube Pink Scramblers!
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game 8	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:08:00 - [34] - Quote Frankly speaking if you've been playing for so long your arse should already know how to avoid getting scammed, why you're trading with random mercs I don't know but you reap what you sow. Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Join eve online today mercs
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:19:00 - [35] - Quote See, when you have a trusted corp, you don't have that problem. When you have a lot of friends, there are plenty of people to trade, sell, and buy with that you don't have to worry about being scammed. Personally I think the danger of getting scammed is making sure you can't turn real world money into straight isk.
The KTM DuKe 0uter.Heaven 371	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:30:00 - [36] - Quote When you have both your char in the same local chat and you can counterscam who scammed you, that moment is priceless "Have fun and don't be an aGÇóGÇó hole" zaria min deir. \o/
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:47:00 - [37] - Quote Pro tip. When it comes to large scale trade, use third party. Either that or trade with recomended players. These who are confirmed on forums by atleast few known and fair players. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:55:00 - [38] - Quote If we would get a solid market system. Something like is used in FUT this game would rise to new levels of popularity.
S3dINS Destiva Casket Stuffers 83	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:13:00 - [39] - Quote Clips A'hoy wrote: His eyes sparkled at the sight of a rarity The seller, oblivious, noticed no abnormality 'Let's make a deal,' in a gulible tonality No doubt. No uncertainty in mind 'Sure, for 23 million.' 'You first - little fortune found in keeping it,' he answered In pause his smitten quip, no query created Desperately in need of ISK he sent with feathers ruffled Excitedly, tetchy, snappy but no payment. 'I've been scammed!?,' he thought '... unacceptable' His cries ignored 'It's unpalatable, unwarrantable!' The scammer, remorseful but all adroitedly faigned 'CCP unconcerned, indifferent, doesn't play housemaid for you sycophants' Why can't my sig box be big enough for this? "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win" This looks nothing like my signature
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 786	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:34:00 - [40] - Quote I love being a gamer but the majority of the group makes us cool weightlifting bros look like daisies always complaining about something that is just unfair. Shut up already dude. Its freakin New Eden, not powder puff care bear land. Have you dudes ever left your house and perfect surbaban city USA? Geesh. Try living in the Bronx for a month bro. You will learn a lot. Saying what's on people's minds

Bioslog Lusitano DUST BRASIL S.A Rise Of Legion. 31	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:50:00 - [41] - Quote It is already possible to sell and buy skins?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 8	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:54:00 - [42] - Quote It's not that everyone is a scammer when it comes to skins, it just when you say "Looking to buy skins for 20mil" the only people looking to sell skins for 20mil are scammers. Message me if you want skins, you'll get the skin right away but it won't be cheap. Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you. I'm kind of a big deal. Get Dust ISK Here
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.26 12:21:00 - [43] - Quote Use a Broker Service, such as this one. The trick to not getting scammed it to use a broker you can trust. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Regnier Feros Pielords 413	Posted - 2015.06.26 12:24:00 - [44] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's not that everyone is a scammer when it comes to skins, it just when you say "Looking to buy skins for 20mil" the only people looking to sell skins for 20mil are scammers. Message me if you want skins, you'll get the skin right away but it won't be cheap. Price over 30 mill? ZariaOwnsWhips
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 13:46:00 - [45] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: I love being a gamer but the majority of the group makes us cool weightlifting bros look like daisies always complaining about something that is just unfair. Shut up already dude. Its freakin New Eden, not powder puff care bear land. Have you dudes ever left your house and perfect surbaban city USA? Geesh. Try living in the Bronx for a month bro. You will learn a lot. Haha you're so tough dude, typical new yorker. I just asked for a trade system. The **** you people infer based on a (logical) opinion of mine is amazing.
Boot Booter Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 13:50:00 - [46] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's not that everyone is a scammer when it comes to skins, it just when you say "Looking to buy skins for 20mil" the only people looking to sell skins for 20mil are scammers. Message me if you want skins, you'll get the skin right away but it won't be cheap. Viktor, listen dude. First of all I don't even really want them. I am trying to buy and sell to make profits. Secondly I always try to bargain with people. And third I asked to buy for 25 mil.
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 35	Posted - 2015.06.26 17:58:00 - [47] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Stop with the 'welcome to new Eden' bs. I've played dust for over 2 years and have dabbled with eve. I'm not by any means new. Eve at least has a market system where you can set items up for sale at a price. In dust every trade feels like an awkward hostage release. EVE has out-of-station piracy, we don't. If you arrange a successful trade in DUST 401(k), you will never lose that item until you want to lose it on the battlefield (if it even can be lost).
Radiant Pancake3 Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion. 203	Posted - 2015.06.26 18:23:00 - [48] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Skins are near impossible to sell and trade publicly without getting scammed. I'm not here to cry, but seriously there needs to be a proper trade system which show the items or isk being transferred. How do you expect an economy to develop when people are being ripped off at every turn. And to all you professional scammers out there. You're pathetic. Scamming innocent people in a video game so you can wear the best gear and feel like you're good. It's truly sad. In Trello trade many people witnessed their first skin trade without a middle man. (Skin owner was skullgrin slammer) Believe to some it was their first skin trade that was actually not a scam. Lol. I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Minmatar Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 18:34:00 - [49] - Quote Scamming is not out of control. What these guys are doing is theft. CCP are absolute fools for letting this go on with real money items. People are going to start getting the idea to use alts for this kind of trade and just charge back with Sony when someone makes off with a skin or a booster or whatever. In Eve CCP only answers to the credit card companies, in Dust CCP answers to Sony and Sony controls their money. Sony does not give a **** and will charge it right on back with any little lie. The only welcome that is going to happen is CCP getting welcomed to the facts of being governed by a large company that only cares about their reputation even if it is at the cost of CCPs wallet.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 21:53:00 - [50] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: ISK up front. Always BTW, exactly the opposite, at least a single item first, always. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 954	Posted - 2015.06.26 22:15:00 - [51] - Quote Welcome to new eden blah, blah, blah?! Where a person, lacking any kind of integrity already, has been given a place to be a complete scrub equipped with an excuse. My advice to you is to trade with mercs you know who just honestly want to buy the gear from you legit. Stay away from those, "welcome to new eden where I take pride in being a douche", types. "Anybody order chaos?"


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