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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.12 03:38:00 -
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I assume that being in the military is about more than just the pew pew.
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Radiant Pancake
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.13 16:42:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I assume that being in the military is about more than just the pew pew.
Yes...
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Radiant Pancake
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.13 16:43:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Meanwhile... just went to the Doctor and found out I could've just been disqualified to join the Marines... You would be surprised at what they "miss" A friend of mine had lymes and still passed his physical to go army. He was originally going marine corps, but I forgot if that's what stopped him or not.
That's what i'm going in for... the marine fishys......
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.07.13 17:44:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:Why would you want to risk your life for the financial gain of people who couldn't care less about you or you're loved ones?
Got to talk to alot of guys when I was doing my meps physical. Most were doing it because free training,free college, some did it because they always wanted to do it. 1 guy said he just wanted to travel the world(don't know what job he got). Of all the people in meps that day(40 of us including girls) I think only 3-5 people went in for combat jobs(I was one).
Every one else did jobs like administration, vehicle maintenance, EOD, and one guy got a nuclear job. They're not really risking their life(maybe the one in nuclear... and EOD people, and ofcourse us combat people).
Thing that made me annoyed was that the one guy who got nuclear kept bragging about his ASVAB score, and he was the only one(to my knowledge) who got a cash bonus. |
Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
393
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Posted - 2015.07.13 22:37:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:Why would you want to risk your life for the financial gain of people who couldn't care less about you or you're loved ones? Got to talk to alot of guys when I was doing my meps physical. Most were doing it because free training,free college, some did it because they always wanted to do it. 1 guy said he just wanted to travel the world(don't know what job he got). Of all the people in meps that day(40 of us including girls) I think only 3-5 people went in for combat jobs(I was one). Every one else did jobs like administration, vehicle maintenance, EOD, and one guy got a nuclear job. They're not really risking their life(maybe the one in nuclear... and EOD people, and ofcourse us combat people). Thing that made me annoyed was that the one guy who got nuclear kept bragging about his ASVAB score, and he was the only one(to my knowledge) who got a cash bonus .
ASVAB that's the next thing I have to pass....
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance.
975
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Posted - 2015.07.13 23:17:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:Why would you want to risk your life for the financial gain of people who couldn't care less about you or you're loved ones? Got to talk to alot of guys when I was doing my meps physical. Most were doing it because free training,free college, some did it because they always wanted to do it. 1 guy said he just wanted to travel the world(don't know what job he got). Of all the people in meps that day(40 of us including girls) I think only 3-5 people went in for combat jobs(I was one). Every one else did jobs like administration, vehicle maintenance, EOD, and one guy got a nuclear job. They're not really risking their life(maybe the one in nuclear... and EOD people, and ofcourse us combat people). Thing that made me annoyed was that the one guy who got nuclear kept bragging about his ASVAB score, and he was the only one(to my knowledge) who got a cash bonus . ASVAB that's the next thing I have to pass....
Asvab was kind of an easy test(got 88 afqt). Take the practice your recruiter offers. Basically same type of questions. There are sections on electrical, engineering, and general science(biology, space etc) and also a puzzle-ish section on the real test. These are kind of common sense(general science is), if you've ever taken a physics class it helps for the electrical or if you have even touched a tool it helps for the engineering.
You'd probably do more waiting than actual test taking( or maybe that was just me) got to meps to take the test at around 2-ish left around 7... was done at 4... |
Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.07.15 09:57:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I ask you this because although I do not have much of a history handling guns
the short amount of exposure to being a marksman in training has lead me to believe that I am more capable then most at handling rifles and sidearms then most civilians and some military personnel, I have a better aim and faster reaction time then my uncle who used to be parted of the armed forces and I have been praised on my skill with some thinking that I may have an extensive history handling weaponry
this to me makes me feel that I would make an excellent rifleman and along with my technological nohow I could become a valuable asset
so is it worth it? should I follow such a career choice? does anyone have any experience they could share and opinions on the matter?
if you're US don't bother. @ the rate that el presedente is dismantling our's there won't be one.
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Radiant Pancake3
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
407
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Posted - 2015.07.15 18:42:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:I ask you this because although I do not have much of a history handling guns
the short amount of exposure to being a marksman in training has lead me to believe that I am more capable then most at handling rifles and sidearms then most civilians and some military personnel, I have a better aim and faster reaction time then my uncle who used to be parted of the armed forces and I have been praised on my skill with some thinking that I may have an extensive history handling weaponry
this to me makes me feel that I would make an excellent rifleman and along with my technological nohow I could become a valuable asset
so is it worth it? should I follow such a career choice? does anyone have any experience they could share and opinions on the matter? if you're US don't bother. @ the rate that el presedente is dismantling our's there won't be one.
Exactly what i've been thinking...
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:53:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:Why would you want to risk your life for the financial gain of people who couldn't care less about you or you're loved ones? This is everyone's gain. It all rolls downhill. What's going to happen? We run out of people who are willing to fight us, and peace will break out.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:57:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:I ask you this because although I do not have much of a history handling guns
the short amount of exposure to being a marksman in training has lead me to believe that I am more capable then most at handling rifles and sidearms then most civilians and some military personnel, I have a better aim and faster reaction time then my uncle who used to be parted of the armed forces and I have been praised on my skill with some thinking that I may have an extensive history handling weaponry
this to me makes me feel that I would make an excellent rifleman and along with my technological nohow I could become a valuable asset
so is it worth it? should I follow such a career choice? does anyone have any experience they could share and opinions on the matter? if you're US don't bother. @ the rate that el presedente is dismantling our's there won't be one. The Armed Forces only swelled because of the wars in the middle east. Now that both of them are over the US is transitioning back to peace time levels.
It makes sense. People want less taxes and the armed forces take up a lot of money. It's the reason the US uses as many mercenaries as possible. They only have to give them a check. No training, equipment or benefits. Just a paycheck. In the long term it saves a lot of money.
Everyone wants a large military, but no one wants to raise taxes to maintain it. Liberals tend to be the ones who want to raise taxes for social programs and dislike increasing the military budget. Conservatives tend to favor a larger military, though they have no intention of raising taxes. This means that the military budget will eventually have to level off to a minimum level. Even so the minimum military budget of the U.S. is much larger than any of its rivals.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2015.07.17 03:05:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Meanwhile... just went to the Doctor and found out I could've just been disqualified to join the Marines... You would be surprised at what they "miss" A friend of mine had lymes and still passed his physical to go army. He was originally going marine corps, but I forgot if that's what stopped him or not. from what my dad told me who was a door gunner in 1968 that they overlook stuff during wartime. in peace time they're a lot more picky. he still jumpy after almost 40 years. he can't hear guns or fireworks without grimmacing and doesn't like guns very much. he says he lucky to be alive. he saw a 50 cal tracer pass thru his doorways, said it singed his eyebrows, glow was the size of a basketball. said an RPG also came close.
he gets all pissed off when i was watching the walking dead he started yelling at me that gores not cool or funny i'm like ffs dad i like the story but i turned the channel anyway. he almost shot another american he didnt get along with they were both armed and standing off. i'm lucky he made it threw all that i wasn't born till after. he says he regrets not doing another tour because they would have made him a pilot but his company he talks to now told him it got really bad after he left and they lost a lot of ppl.
it compelled me to fly dropships from all his stories and i always used gunners, really depressing i tried to fly in dust a couple nights ago and completely forgot how to. i was really good at NDS. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2015.07.17 03:33:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'll always remember what a WWII veteran said to his son before he went to Vietnam.
"We went over there because they were putting people in ovens. You're going to go fight a poor poppy farmer that doesn't want anything to do with you."
Ever since then I have lost my dedication to joining the armed forces. yea but at the time they believed in what they were doing.. from 1965-1967 morale was high. they sold them vietnam by telling them we were going there to stop communist aggressors... it seemed right to their generation at the time.. bear in mind USA pop culture was more innocent back their, easier to persuade.
the problem was we didnt capture and hold anything, the whole strategy was based on body count which was often not accurate.. it didnt matter that USA killed an estimated 6 million communists because even their civilians were militarized to repair roads and what not.. ho chi min knew that he could not fight the americans conventionally- US air power and artillery.. he had to wear out the american public with a drawn out campaign and not commit his forces to a battle. he tried a fixed battle in 1965, the movie we were soldiers once shows this battle.
after he lost that he committed to a very long campaign of routinely harrassing the americans. the americans were just as badass as their WWII fathers and were pissed off that they could not get the reinforcements neccesary to launch a massive offense, the american public was already protesting and westmoreland was denied about 250000 additional troops. we beat them when they launched the tet offense but we lost a lot of guys in the process and american public went ape sht after tet,
the reporters were filming the carnage and we were loosing hundreds of guys a day. many of the troops were pissed off because they wanted blood but were not allowed to pursue into cambodia where the viet cong would flee to refuge after they would strike. why many vietnam vets refuse to talk about it.
vietnam really fuct up the french in the 50s when french forces tried to win by building a defensive complex in a valley, the viet min set up artillery on the backside of the mountains and just pounded them before finally over running the garrison.. it took weeks but it almost happened at khe sahn in 1968 but the assault on it never came. they over ran a smaller base nearby and viet cong was actually using a russian tank for that, the only time an enemy tank was seen that far south, they totally fuct that base up and was one of the few battles they won coventionally.
the americans won almost every battle but without a policy of capture and hold they would just retake the ground they lost after the americans left whatever ground they took. |
Louis Domi
Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance.
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 11:33:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'll always remember what a WWII veteran said to his son before he went to Vietnam.
"We went over there because they were putting people in ovens. You're going to go fight a poor poppy farmer that doesn't want anything to do with you."
Ever since then I have lost my dedication to joining the armed forces. yea but at the time they believed in what they were doing.. from 1965-1967 morale was high. they sold them vietnam by telling them we were going there to stop communist aggressors... it seemed right to their generation at the time.. bear in mind USA pop culture was more innocent back their, easier to persuade. the problem was we didnt capture and hold anything, the whole strategy was based on body count which was often not accurate.. it didnt matter that USA killed an estimated 6 million communists because even their civilians were militarized to repair roads and what not.. ho chi min knew that he could not fight the americans conventionally- US air power and artillery.. he had to wear out the american public with a drawn out campaign and not commit his forces to a battle. he tried a fixed battle in 1965, the movie we were soldiers once shows this battle. after he lost that he committed to a very long campaign of routinely harrassing the americans. the americans were just as badass as their WWII fathers and were pissed off that they could not get the reinforcements neccesary to launch a massive offense, the american public was already protesting and westmoreland was denied about 250000 additional troops. we beat them when they launched the tet offense but we lost a lot of guys in the process and american public went ape sht after tet, the reporters were filming the carnage and we were loosing hundreds of guys a day. many of the troops were pissed off because they wanted blood but were not allowed to pursue into cambodia where the viet cong would flee to refuge after they would strike. why many vietnam vets refuse to talk about it. vietnam really fuct up the french in the 50s when french forces tried to win by building a defensive complex in a valley, the viet min set up artillery on the backside of the mountains and just pounded them before finally over running the garrison.. it took weeks but it almost happened at khe sahn in 1968 but the assault on it never came. they over ran a smaller base nearby and viet cong was actually using a russian tank for that, the only time an enemy tank was seen that far south, they totally fuct that base up and was one of the few battles they won coventionally. the americans won almost every battle but without a policy of capture and hold they would just retake the ground they lost after the americans left whatever ground they took. Making me feel as though I'm back in my US History class... except you're more informational than the book... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2015.07.19 03:10:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'll always remember what a WWII veteran said to his son before he went to Vietnam.
"We went over there because they were putting people in ovens. You're going to go fight a poor poppy farmer that doesn't want anything to do with you."
Ever since then I have lost my dedication to joining the armed forces. yea but at the time they believed in what they were doing.. from 1965-1967 morale was high. they sold them vietnam by telling them we were going there to stop communist aggressors... it seemed right to their generation at the time.. bear in mind USA pop culture was more innocent back their, easier to persuade. the problem was we didnt capture and hold anything, the whole strategy was based on body count which was often not accurate.. it didnt matter that USA killed an estimated 6 million communists because even their civilians were militarized to repair roads and what not.. ho chi min knew that he could not fight the americans conventionally- US air power and artillery.. he had to wear out the american public with a drawn out campaign and not commit his forces to a battle. he tried a fixed battle in 1965, the movie we were soldiers once shows this battle. after he lost that he committed to a very long campaign of routinely harrassing the americans. the americans were just as badass as their WWII fathers and were pissed off that they could not get the reinforcements neccesary to launch a massive offense, the american public was already protesting and westmoreland was denied about 250000 additional troops. we beat them when they launched the tet offense but we lost a lot of guys in the process and american public went ape sht after tet, the reporters were filming the carnage and we were loosing hundreds of guys a day. many of the troops were pissed off because they wanted blood but were not allowed to pursue into cambodia where the viet cong would flee to refuge after they would strike. why many vietnam vets refuse to talk about it. vietnam really fuct up the french in the 50s when french forces tried to win by building a defensive complex in a valley, the viet min set up artillery on the backside of the mountains and just pounded them before finally over running the garrison.. it took weeks but it almost happened at khe sahn in 1968 but the assault on it never came. they over ran a smaller base nearby and viet cong was actually using a russian tank for that, the only time an enemy tank was seen that far south, they totally fuct that base up and was one of the few battles they won coventionally. the americans won almost every battle but without a policy of capture and hold they would just retake the ground they lost after the americans left whatever ground they took. Making me feel as though I'm back in my US History class... except you're more informational than the book...
lol i've been a serious student of history for about 15 years now, from history channel and i read a lot of war books. i know history channels has biased info tho, they are kinda war mongers.
i'm still looking for a translated account from a viet cong soldier. i like to hear all sides, i have a lot of free time at work.
on a small microcosm a RE scout is a viet cong, he harrases the enemy and then tries to lure him into a trap, he disrupts the flow of the assault and furstrates the enemy. the viet cong did that kinda stuff for years and eventually accomplished their mission after millions of casualties, but without free speech they did not need the support of their populace. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.07.21 10:13:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I ask you this because although I do not have much of a history handling guns
the short amount of exposure to being a marksman in training has lead me to believe that I am more capable then most at handling rifles and sidearms then most civilians and some military personnel, I have a better aim and faster reaction time then my uncle who used to be parted of the armed forces and I have been praised on my skill with some thinking that I may have an extensive history handling weaponry
this to me makes me feel that I would make an excellent rifleman and along with my technological nohow I could become a valuable asset
so is it worth it? should I follow such a career choice? does anyone have any experience they could share and opinions on the matter? This depends on your home country, branch of service and your personality.
There is no easy answer.
My best advice? Do not sign that paperwork unless you are dead sure that you want to go in. If there is any doubt in your mind give it some time. But make a choice and stick to it.
Oddly, most militaries prefer to train people who have never handled weapons before. They have no locked in reflexes, no bad habits. So they tend do do better on the boot camp ranges.
If you were trained for actual competition shooting like I was you MIGHT have less worry.
If you go in, take all of your expectations and shelf them. Life in the military is never what you think it will be. It's not well-described by Hollywood, and frequently makes the aggravation you can get on this forum seem like a nice massage by comparison.
Situational awareness is king, and being able to learn fast is critical. There are two kinds of platoons in the military:
Smart Platoons and Strong platoons. You will rapidly figure out which is which.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.07.21 10:16:00 -
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Oh yeah. I almost forgot. Being trapped imn a room hazy with CS gas without a mask is an entirely new level of agony.
Everyone reacts differently. I found out the more pain I'm in the more prone to attacking I am.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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