I got 600k for going 11/9 with 1800ish WP. Top of the leader board on the winning side.

Usually, I get 200ish k for 9th place on the winning side.

Seems like it already rewards WP-whoring contributing to the team.

Good post.

I would prefer if the WP for kills were modified based on the relative meta level of the suites.

I.e: (just spitballing numbers)
- MIlitia Starter Fit kills a fully stocked Proto player = 200 WP
- Proto player kills Militia Starter Fit = 10 WP

Two equally strength players would result in today's 50 WP.
The payout could still be based on WP contribution as today.

First of all this is not about payouts needing to be raised.

This is about incentive to win, rewarding activity, and screwing over those that feel that sitting in the red line is a viable tactic because it is currently profitable.

-Remove passive payouts for time in battle. This only screws people that join the battle late and rewards those that AFK the full time.

-Add a base passive payout determined based on win or lose. 100k for a victory and 25k for a loss sounds like good numbers but obviously those are open for debate.

-Adjust the current mechanics of ISK destroyed going into the prize pool so that only 20% of ISK destroyed goes into the pool. This would still be divided based on Win or Loss and WP as it currently stands.

-Add an individual "keep what you kill" system. The player who gets the kill on a suit gets 20% of the value of the suit. Players who get assists on those people receive 10% up to 3 people based on actual damage dealt. Only ISK actually destroyed is paid out just like with the current prize pool. This makes terminating clones absolutely essential.

-Add a bonus payout per war point. Something small like 500 ISK per WP sounds fair but again very open for debate. This is so that logis have an equal chance of making a profit under the new system as slayers do.




My proposed system is not perfect but seems far more balanced than the current system. There would be very little reward in stomping MLT suits and BPOs while it could be highly profitable to fight back against PRO stomps. It also rewards primarily participation while keeping some passive ISK in there so that new players are not totally boned.

You will notice that only 70% of destroyed ISK is distributed. This is to keep an ISK sink in there to offset the base payout from win or loss and keep some importance on wallet management since this is really the most important aspect of being a mercenary. Victories would become fairly profitable primarily for those who were participating while AFKing through a loss nets you next to nothing.

This highly rewards staying and fighting when you see PRO stompers. Being willing to team up with a couple of people and try to pick off as many PRO suits as possible can be wildly profitable even in loss.

It really fits in more with the aspects of pub matches being contracted by large NPC corps. Why would an NPC corp pay a mercenary just for sitting in battle and put little emphasis on if the battle is won or lost.

No way the isk payout should be raised. It will simply promote stomping in pubs besides you won't go broke or low on isk if for a change you "don't proto". As a logi most of the time i get 400k-500k apex suit with just a proto rep tool. I think the current payout is good infact its just a little too much. I run adv and rarely proto in pubs and I'm always making a profit. So its simple, just run a apex or basic maybe adv with basic mods. I can't help but think people who perma run proto complain about isk.

I often get halfway matches n still end up near if not top of leaderboard somehow but this happened last night again I got maybe third place n my buddy got second to last I got a lil over 200k n he got 70 k so yea payouts working fine u get what u put in

Instead of buffing payouts for scrubs in pub matches how about we allow FW gear to be traded so people who are willing to run coordinated squads can sell BPO suits from the FW store to players who dont want to run FW.

I got 600k for going 11/9 with 1800ish WP. Top of the leader board on the winning side.

Usually, I get 200ish k for 9th place on the winning side.

Seems like it already rewards WP-whoring contributing to the team.

You do realize this would also buff payouts for proto players who actually stay in the match and fight right?

But every six months a scrub who afks FW could sell the APEX suit he "earned" by sniping in FW (maybe he's lucky and other people carried him) could sell that APEX and get one step closer to whatever goal they had for their wallet when they began "playing" Dust.

Good post.

I would prefer if the WP for kills were modified based on the relative meta level of the suites.

I.e: (just spitballing numbers)
- MIlitia Starter Fit kills a fully stocked Proto player = 200 WP
- Proto player kills Militia Starter Fit = 10 WP

Two equally strength players would result in today's 50 WP.
The payout could still be based on WP contribution as today.

You are correct. After considering your point I do believe that rewarding farmers is probably the best solution for Dust.

People leaving their quarters and actually playing the game would probably require CCP actually work on the game.

Addressing pay could help out significantly with match abandonment.

No way the isk payout should be raised. It will simply promote stomping in pubs besides you won't go broke or low on isk if for a change you "don't proto". As a logi most of the time i get 400k-500k apex suit with just a proto rep tool. I think the current payout is good infact its just a little too much. I run adv and rarely proto in pubs and I'm always making a profit. So its simple, just run a apex or basic maybe adv with basic mods. I can't help but think people who perma run proto complain about isk.

Lock matches. Split modes into MLT, Basic,Adv, Pro.
Bush-MLT gear, everyone knows how to kill others
Acq-MLT/BSC
Dom-MLT/BSC/ADV
Skirm-Anything goes
FW-PRO Only