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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.06.15 04:00:00 -
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Too often radical groups on the fringes of Intaki society have threatened the privileged position of the Intaki within the Federation. These radicals have slowly degenerated the name of the Intaki Clan to be synonymous with traitor. As a stoic people we are not normally troubled by the attitudes of others, yet over time simple opinions have started to manifest themselves into policy. Now many elements of the government are starting to ignore necessary changes in economic policy and domestic protection within the Intaki systems. Invasion by smugglers, pirates and other criminal forces are becoming far too common. Not only that, but with a de facto absence of the Federation the State is starting to fill the void.
As Intaki we cannot let cartels, syndicates and the Caldari corporations push us around. It is not the time to embrace the passive nature of stoicism, but rather the cold decisiveness with which we deal to those who would harm our culture and destroy our society. We must reignite the flame of the Intaki within the Federation to once again become leaders within its beurocracy. Brethren, it is time to step out of the shadows and back into the light.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Dagger-Two
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2015.06.16 07:40:00 -
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I'm not entirely sure why you keep calling the Intaki a 'clan' .
The Intaki situation is an extremely complex one, born of unfortunate neglect on the part of the Federation in the past, and close relationships with the Caldari due to proximity.
Intaki's (the system) position in what is low-security space has always proven a serious obstacle for law enforcement, a situation only made worse by the expanding influence of capsuleers, criminal organizations, and the proxy war still being fought in that region. It is unfortunate that the Federation never fully addressed this issue with the kind of urgency it deserved, and as such that feeling of neglect led to the conditions we see today.
I hate to see native Intaki believing that the Federation sees them as second-rate citizens. I absolutely believe this could not be further from the truth, though I fully understand how actions taken in the past, even the very near past, have shaped that viewpoint.
A call to arms for all Intaki people to turn away from all factions but the Federation is a patriotic one, but ultimately fruitless. Until the Federation has the means to secure Intaki with safe trade routes, police and customs protection, while protecting their heritage and rights to commerce and trade with whomever they choose, there will always be good reasons for the Intaki people to look to organizations like the Syndicate.
...and the only way the Federation will be able to do all that, is if the pointless bickering and needless bloodshed between them and the State in contested space ends.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
415
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Posted - 2015.06.16 08:57:00 -
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You do realize that a majority of pro Caldari sentiment within Intaki is relatively high, right? You're quick to credit the declining conditions within the Intaki system to the Serpentis, Intaki Syndicate, and Caldari corporations but the single largest band of cut-throats that continues to force foreign influence into the region continues to be the Roden administration. The Serpentis are a result of your libertarian policy and ideals of 'freedom' that you impose on others, the Syndicate became a necessity for the security of Intaki communities due to Gallente negligence, and Caldari corporations have only ever attempted to facilitate deep cultural bonds that already exist between the Way of the Winds and the Ida.
I could go on, but it would all be pointless since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about if your idea of 'stepping into the light' is cowering under the shadow of the Gallente Federation. You're a brainwashed, privileged fool to exist as elysian and think that you could possibly relate to the millions of poor downtrodden bastards that have to turn to a gods damned drug cartel to ensure their own safety.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.06.16 09:19:00 -
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You really do not have a clue of your heritage or our cultural bonds, do you..?
The Ishukone corporation of the Caldari gave more effort than anyone else, as did Mordu's Legion. Intaki (that is, the planet) does not have her own established navy or fleet - who would defend us? The Federation? Hardly. They can't defend the space around the planet, let alone the planet itself. In fact, the entire reason that Ishukone and Mordu's Legion are there in the first place is because the Federation couldn't hold the Intaki System against the State to begin with.
Irrelevant, considering that it has nothing to do with our integrity, or our individuality which we attained through intelligence and idealism, identified not by idleness, false-idols, implementation of immortality or immolation but by implicitly impressing ideology and immersion of imagination on integrations. Incidents imposing, indirectly, insecurities among invaders through issuing interance of intense investments in the interim. Impure ironies imposed on international illusions implementing our independence.
That, my friend... Is what it means to be Intaki.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.16 09:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:You really do not have a clue of your heritage or our cultural bonds, do you..?
The Ishukone corporation of the Caldari gave more effort than anyone else, as did Mordu's Legion. Intaki (that is, the planet) does not have her own established navy or fleet - who would defend us? The Federation? Hardly. They can't defend the space around the planet, let alone the planet itself. In fact, the entire reason that Ishukone and Mordu's Legion are there in the first place is because the Federation couldn't hold the Intaki System against the State to begin with.
Irrelevant, considering that it has nothing to do with our integrity, or our individuality which we attained through intelligence and idealism, identified not by idleness, false-idols, implementation of immortality or immolation but by implicitly impressing ideology and immersion of imagination on integrations. Incidents imposing, indirectly, insecurities among invaders through issuing interance of intense investments in the interim. Impure ironies imposed on international illusions implementing our independence.
That, my friend... Is what it means to be Intaki.
I see a severe lack of FREEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOM here.
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Denak Kalamari
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:56:00 -
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Going by your thread title, and general impression I get from your thread, it all tells me that you are promoting a secularist and anti-Caldari Intaki. While there is some merit to the issues you bring up, I have yet to see you provide any actual solutions to these problems beyond a grand call-to-arms, whatever that means.
As others have already mentioned, the situation of the Intaki system is complicated, and there is no easy or simple solution. But you have to realize that a significant portion of the Intaki populace are favorable towards the Caldari, and on several occasions Mordu's Legion and Caldari corporations have come in aid for various situations. Being anti-Caldari is not the solution.
While I agree with seceding from the Gallente Federation, doing it violently or with conflict will not go anywhere. The Caldari did this and it's a festering wound between the Gallente-Caldari relations to this day.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.06.16 15:24:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:You do realize that a majority of pro Caldari sentiment within Intaki is relatively high, right?
Typical Caldari propaganda. I wouldn't doubt you also believe that the Federation is holding the loyalist Caldari communities as hostages.
Galm Fae wrote:
I could go on, but it would all be pointless since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about if your idea of 'stepping into the light' is cowering under the shadow of the Gallente Federation. You're a brainwashed, privileged fool to exist as elysian and think that you could possibly relate to the millions of poor downtrodden bastards that have to turn to a gods damned drug cartel to ensure their own safety.
It's a dark point in Intaki history. What we do next will define us. That is why it is necessary that we rise from our own ashes; to secure our position in the Federation as bastion of order, a prism of prosperity.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.16 21:15:00 -
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Securing a position in the Federation does not preclude a cultural degeneration of the Intaki way of life nor does it ensure the preservation of what it means to be Intaki now. Admittedly I do lack specific knowledge of the political situation though would welcome tutorship on the subject.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
417
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Posted - 2015.06.16 23:05:00 -
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Okay, first of all you completely ignored the bulk of the supporting comments by your fellow Federation citizens and instead decided to go for the personal attack by calling my claims 'typical Caldari propaganda.' I'm not even full Caldari, at least half of my blood is Intaki. Now, while typically Denak is the definitive source for all things Intaki (I'll be damned if I know much of anything about my own heritage) the relationship between them and the State is something that I actually have a fair bit of personal experience with.
Back before the State fought for our succession, relations between the Caldari and the Intaki Assembly were at worst friendly and at best symbiotic. We maintained close economic ties, and each considered the other our galactic counterparts. The traditional Way of the Winds and the Ida are both vitally important in understanding the Caldar and the Intaki respectively, and each considers the other merely an alternative interpretation of the same truth; all of creation is simply a personification of the will of the universe. While the Caldari see this as an opportunity to temper and forge only the most fitting aspects of the soul, the Intaki see it as a way to refine themselves until they have reached divinity. That is literally the most simple way I can describe it.
Now once the Caldari State decided to pull itself out from under the thumb of the Federation, we nearly expected the Intaki to follow suit due to the mutual agreement that self determination was more important than the government that the Gallente had imposed on us. Arguably, one of the major reasons for the massive amount of stockpiled troops that the Gallente discovered weren't simply to defend our own homeworld of Caldari Prime but were also to aid in the liberation of Placid. Once we had extended military aid to any rebels sympathetic to our cause the Assembly may have remained a close ally and a stalwart friend. Unfortunately, our fleet was discovered before these plans could ever be put into motion and in no time at all we had thrust ourselves into the first Caldari-Gallente War.
At the time, many many many many Intaki were sympathetic to the Caldari cause to the point that public opinion began to lean in favor of joining the war on the side of the State rather than continue to support a Federation that had just bombarded civilian populations from orbit and force the eviction of an entire race of people from their homeland. For the Federation this would have marked a definitive shift from simply fighting one rebellious child to the very real possibility of Mannar seeking independence as well, leave the Gallente unable to manage their extensive empire and become easy prey for an Amarr Reclamation. Needless to say they panicked, which caused them to exile hundreds of millions of Intaki citizens that identified as Caldari sympathizers. These exiles would eventually become the Intaki Syndicate, a shadow organization operating as a de facto government in low sec spaces abandoned by the Federation but out of the reach of the Caldari State. It's a well know fact that the Syndicate still maintains close (and technicially very illegal) ties with megacorperations to this day buy smuggling goods and services between the two nations.
In my honest opinion, the formation of the Intaki Syndicate was the single greatest atrocity the Gallente are responsible for in the war. The loss of Caldari Prime was a tragedy, but ultimately brainwashed Gallente will always struggle to find some justification for what they had done to my people. The Exile of millions of Intaki however? That was unprovoked, and it serves as proof that no one is truly 'free' under the Gallente. All those who wish for independence will merely be branded as traitors and evicted from their homes.
Many recently exiled Intaki that had earned a position within the Gallente Navy didn't appreciate being cast aside and told to accept the subjugation of their people, and outright mutinied before joining the Caldari Navy. They were allowed to keep their ranks and were promised that their people would be free to settle in Waschi City on the planet Kamokor IV after the war with full military honors. They unanimously agreed, and were placed under the command of a young, eccentric deteis named Muryia Mordu. My father, rest his soul, had the good fortune of leading a fire team tasked with extracting the man from Intaki V after his Condor was shot down while in orbit. They would have all died if a young Intaki family hadn't sheltered them for several days until the State could launch a proper search and rescue team and pull them off that rock.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.06.17 06:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Securing a position in the Federation does not preclude a cultural degeneration of the Intaki way of life nor does it ensure the preservation of what it means to be Intaki now. Admittedly I do lack specific knowledge of the political situation though would welcome tutorship on the subject.
The Intaki culture has already been tormented enough by criminal activities and warfare against the State. By siding with freedom we can preserve our culture instead of handing ourselves into serfdom with the Caldari. At that point we might as well volunteer ourselves into slavery with the Amarr Empire. Neither position is appealing and both are equally terrible with the exception being that in one you are acknowledged to be subservient while in the other you are told that you are voluntarily there and that your leaders are wiser than you and that you don't need to question anything.
I won't let my people fall into either state.
When we helped to create the Federation we invisioned a prosperous and free nation that would transcend any one culture or class to see all beliefs as equal and all individuals as equal. Many Intaki forget that while peace should be strived for that it's more important to protect what you believe in. This is what we should remember, hold on to and act on.
We have always been at the forefront of the Federation: leading it from the front despite being the smallest group. Economic prosperity as a whole left our leaders placid and idealistic of foreign relations. We can hold on to our ideals within our communities, but outside we must use our stoic viewpoint to stay ahead of external threats. We cannot make peace through disarmament because we cannot ensure other empires will comply. Unlike in a closed community everyone cannot be ensured to follow rules. Therefore seeking peace where we can and having a strong military is the best we can do.
This reality was overlooked by my idealistic brothers. They forgot that seeing the truth is central to our ways. The Intaki will become leaders once more.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
419
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Posted - 2015.06.17 08:08:00 -
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Why do we even bother Galm?
Because who else would Pixy? Who else would?
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:26:00 -
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The Intaki do not strive to become leaders. While we make great mediators this is from circumstance of Ida, "The Way". We take things in moderation and while some of us do become leaders we are humbled by the experience. There are aspects of both the State and the Federation that we agree with and segregating ourselves from either would not be of mutual benefit. Freedom is something we enjoy, absolutely, but we also admire meritocracy.
A question that should be asked is not, "What do we gain from leaving the Federation?" but "What do we lose from leaving the Federation?" If you can answer that clearly, concisely, and weigh the costs than perhaps there is grounding and base for your argument.
What if we lost our federal support? Who then would protect our small world in the desolate wastes of Placid? The State surely would not come to our aid, especially with such little value from the Intaki system, and not with their reaction to the Ishukone Corporation's humanitarian efforts toward our world. Mordu's Legion's efforts have been welcomed but their reach is spread and their endeavors long-since dated. The Syndicate are unconcerned as they are only interested in their Baronships and profit margins.
So who then would protect our families from The Serpentis? The Drifters? Sansha Kuvakei's slaves? While unreliable and often inadequate, the Federation is perhaps our only option.
Some people ask us, "Where do you call home?"
And we say, "Home is where the bullets fly. Where the shells land."
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sir RAVEN WING
No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.29 23:42:00 -
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The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort.
The bird has flown away for a while. Leave a message at the tone
Gon' Flying, be back soon.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:33:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort.
I don't expect a Caldari to try anything unless money is involved.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:38:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort. I don't expect a Caldari to try anything unless money is involved.
Rather confrontational for a self proclaimed Intaki aren't you? I thought the Ida taught one to think before they spoke, to look at things calmly and holistically, to accept that with every solution comes more problems.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 01:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort. I don't expect a Caldari to try anything unless money is involved. Rather confrontational for a self proclaimed Intaki aren't you? I thought the Ida taught one to think before they spoke, to look at things calmly and holistically, to accept that with every solution comes more problems.
My father was a Brutor. Also, one shouldn't believe all one hears. Many stereotypes are greatly exaggerated.
Staying calm is an ideal, and like many ideals we strive to achieve them. If the Intaki always stayed calm then our home world wouldn't be split into warring vigilantes.
If calmness means inaction then I refuse to stay calm while the Intaki are trampled on.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.30 02:22:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort. I don't expect a Caldari to try anything unless money is involved. Rather confrontational for a self proclaimed Intaki aren't you? I thought the Ida taught one to think before they spoke, to look at things calmly and holistically, to accept that with every solution comes more problems. My father was a Brutor. Also, one shouldn't believe all one hears. Many stereotypes are greatly exaggerated. Staying calm is an ideal, and like many ideals we strive to achieve them. If the Intaki always stayed calm then our home world wouldn't be split into warring vigilantes. If calmness means inaction then I refuse to stay calm while the Intaki are trampled on.
Then you cannot champion the Intaki people. You would do to them what you fear others doing to you. Enforcing your ideals over Ida rather than adopting those traits that have made the Intaki who and what they are.
As I understand it the Ida should teach you that with every solution comes another problem. I believe that the means by which you reach that end goal are more important than the reaching of your goals. In this case there is no value in becoming leaders or powerful individuals if you must compromise your cultural ideals or faith to achieve it.
Yes I am away that 'Ida' is not a true religion as much as it is an unspoken system of holistic thinking.....damn translation programmes do not handle Amarrish to Gallentean particularly well.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 14:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Then you cannot champion the Intaki people. You would do to them what you fear others doing to you. Enforcing your ideals over Ida rather than adopting those traits that have made the Intaki who and what they are.
As I understand it the Ida should teach you that with every solution comes another problem. I believe that the means by which you reach that end goal are more important than the reaching of your goals. In this case there is no value in becoming leaders or powerful individuals if you must compromise your cultural ideals or faith to achieve it.
Yes I am away that 'Ida' is not a true religion as much as it is an unspoken system of holistic thinking.....damn translation programmes do not handle Amarrish to Gallentean particularly well.
We can stay a stoic people, but the time for being pacifists has passed. Diplomacy won't work either. Not yet. No one considers the Caldari a military power not even space faring smugglers. We need to position ourselves to make any demands.
Our ideals are important, though my people should revere it's neutral tendencies to implore clear thinking even under pressure rather than the passivity that has been commonly attained from it.
If our ancestors had been as passive as the current Intaki then as a people we would have been left in ruin long before encountering any of the Empires. Victims of our own weakness. We have always stayed strong and repelled anything that would have harmed us or our ways. We must be as string as our ancestors were.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.06.30 20:51:00 -
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I think I can empathise with Galm at present time. God help me, why did I try?
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.06.30 23:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I think I can empathise with Galm at present time. God help me, why did I try?
Because you underestimated me.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
429
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Posted - 2015.07.01 06:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:I think I can empathise with Galm at present time. God help me, why did I try?
Because you underestimated me.
Yes, we underestimated just how truly pig-headed you are. Also, try reading through your thesaurus before you pick words that sound nice and hope they somehow amount to a valid argument. Your senseless messages are just coming through my translator as little more than organized static.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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sir RAVEN WING
No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.07.05 16:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:The very bane of logic has spoken once more.
Aztec, your mind has been ruined by Gallente propaganda. There is no way to deny it, as it shines threw brighter than the brightest of stars.
I will not argue with you, as I know it will be a fruitless effort. I don't expect a Caldari to try anything unless money is involved.
I do not need any type of currency as it is. I may want to say that there is a difference between us.
We are both, at least, part Intaki, but we differ by how we think. I think without using bias, while you have a heavy Gallente bias.
I will simply refuse to argue with you due to the fact I know there is no point whatsoever. You will continuously refuse to listen to reason.
The bird has flown away for a while. Leave a message at the tone
Gon' Flying, be back soon.
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