DUST Search - Is ADV gear little more then a stopgap?

Protocake JR wrote:

I'm not sure if it's because i've been drinking too much lately or what but your post was a little hard to follow.

But i'm guessing you are criticizing the community on why people complain about low pub income when they run proto when they could just as easily run ADV gear which is supposedly comparable.

Welllllll, if that's the case, the community isn't a single entity. "We" are not a hivemind. There are people who could run proto if Pubs gave 1 isk per battle. There are people who would still go broke every match if pubs payed 1M per match. Now, what is going to happen, is that CCP is going to collect data and see where the majority of Dust population lies within the spectrum and lower Isk prices juuuuuust so that you don't have quite enough (unless you're exceptional or put in a lot of time) so that you'll buy AUR gear and 5 dollar Battle packs. It's a free to play game yall. Not free.

No use talking about this. At least until someone proves to me otherwise (not that it matters, it sounds more condecending than I mean it to be).

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PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2015.06.12 11:41:00 - [1] - Quote IMHO it seems like it, there's always talk of PROTO gear or how basic/militia sucks but hardly talk of ADV level gear. Its more now then before but i think its treaed like it doesn't even exist. Example of the Gal Scout slots lvl 1 1H 3L lvl 3 2H 3L lvl 5 2H 4L OFF 2H 5L With the Advanced suit, its literally a happy medium between basic and PROTO, decent price pending on mods, good fitting space and slots to get more creative, a well fitted ADV suit is able to compete well in a competitive setting and even if you die more times then you're comfortable with, it takes a while actually start losing ISK. So why are some people going broke running PROTO IMHO, 1) Can't actually afford to run it as much as they'd like 2) Dying too much running PROTO which is expensive which leads to next point 3) Bad player that needs PROTO to make up for badness/ don't have a cut-off point A cut-off point is exactly what it sounds like, after a certain number of PROTO suits are lost you cut-off using it and tier it down. You save on ISK, you don't lose to much and you still can make a profit. Running around asking for higher payouts for matches or spamming chats asking for ISK isn't the way to do it. Its a way but it doesn't help yourself too much in the long run. Why? Self-control. If you can't or wont stop causing yourself to go into the negative but switching up how you do things, thats not someone elses problem to clean up. Excluding the newbros and the regular comedic haz ISK people or the PC players cause PC will make you want to turn you're controller into a poster on your wall. That was my little rambling about PROTO and ISK and ADV gear. Thoughts? Matari In-Game & Out Infiltrator-Sneaks behind enemy lines doing work no one else can* Next Buy; UC3 no-limit level
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.12 12:39:00 - [2] - Quote Using proto saves your clones. You're earning isk to use proto. 30 fitting space isn't enough for proto&adv fits. I alone have only 4 non proto fits cuz of the limited space. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 670	Posted - 2015.06.12 12:49:00 - [3] - Quote Don't forget the massive SP sink to get from level 4 to 5 in a suit. For the most part, it's more effective to max cores and just use advanced gear, especially if you use more than one suit. We want cake and tea.
Protocake JR Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.12 13:18:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not sure if it's because i've been drinking too much lately or what but your post was a little hard to follow. But i'm guessing you are criticizing the community on why people complain about low pub income when they run proto when they could just as easily run ADV gear which is supposedly comparable. Welllllll, if that's the case, the community isn't a single entity. "We" are not a hivemind. There are people who could run proto if Pubs gave 1 isk per battle. There are people who would still go broke every match if pubs payed 1M per match. Now, what is going to happen, is that CCP is going to collect data and see where the majority of Dust population lies within the spectrum and lower Isk prices juuuuuust so that you don't have quite enough (unless you're exceptional or put in a lot of time) so that you'll buy AUR gear and 5 dollar Battle packs. It's a free to play game yall. Not free. No use talking about this. At least until someone proves to me otherwise (not that it matters, it sounds more condecending than I mean it to be). Y-axis sensitivity: 100%
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 970	Posted - 2015.06.12 14:38:00 - [5] - Quote I primarily use ADV in pubs (few exceptions). I'm not the best FPS player and will loose most 1vs1 straight up fights, Proto or not. I save Proto for that little extra edge in FW.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2015.06.12 15:45:00 - [6] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: I'm not sure if it's because i've been drinking too much lately or what but your post was a little hard to follow. But i'm guessing you are criticizing the community on why people complain about low pub income when they run proto when they could just as easily run ADV gear which is supposedly comparable. Welllllll, if that's the case, the community isn't a single entity. "We" are not a hivemind. There are people who could run proto if Pubs gave 1 isk per battle. There are people who would still go broke every match if pubs payed 1M per match. Now, what is going to happen, is that CCP is going to collect data and see where the majority of Dust population lies within the spectrum and lower Isk prices juuuuuust so that you don't have quite enough (unless you're exceptional or put in a lot of time) so that you'll buy AUR gear and 5 dollar Battle packs. It's a free to play game yall. Not free. No use talking about this. At least until someone proves to me otherwise (not that it matters, it sounds more condecending than I mean it to be). It was more rambling on my part but im kinda criticising people that run proto, find complain about not having ISK, but refuse to run lower tier gear to more easily make ISK. I understand your point, just trying to give some tips on ISK saving for those who don't have ISK coming out of every orifice. Besides if people didn't hand ot ISK to broke proto users i think there'd be less stomping and better ISK management. Which would lead to more stomping in the long run....FACEDESK. Just simple ISK management Protocake, simple things made complicated by yours truly. Matari In-Game & Out Infiltrator-Sneaks behind enemy lines doing work no one else can Next Buy; UC3 no-limit level
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.12 16:14:00 - [7] - Quote Adv gear all the way. Almost as effective as proto, but not nearly as expensive. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Denesian Morenti Horizons' Edge No Context 40	Posted - 2015.06.12 16:37:00 - [8] - Quote Hardly ever use proto gear in pubs, unless you count an APEX suit. Yes it's a proto suit, but I run it with all basic gear and advanced links. I will only use proto in PC and sometimes FW because I enjoy the non-stop challenge and profits! I like my raspberries melted with a side of ice cream.
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 99	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:10:00 - [9] - Quote Ive got a 15k all basic except the low slots scout a1 that can compete with amything proto in terms of attack. I dont have the padded hp or large fitting or extra alots but i make do. Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.


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