AA ON: -10% dmg... done

< never asked for aim assist or bullet magnetism.

As a matter of fact, AA hurt my scout pretty hard because it became easier for people to shoot me(remember when AA was first reintroduced? It was like a freaking magnet)

Also, I hate wiggle wiggle and would love if it went back to lower strafe speed across the board.

Wouldn't be nearly as bad if it weren't for the low FPS fooling you into thinking they were moving in one direction when they're moving another. Nothing like a slight, miniscule bit of lag to make you think they're going left just for them to teleport right.

I also sort of chuckle whenever people say "remove aim assist" - do you people realize what that would do to this game? Systematically, people would immediate start complaining of hit detection problems (even more so than now) because the wiggle-wiggle would be exponentially more valuable as a combat tactic. Then, those who couldn't adapt would default to Mass Drivers, Flaylock Pistols, and Core Locus Grenades for the gimmicky splash damage kills because they couldn't aim worth salt.

EDIT: Also, a big part of working hit detection that we complained about until it got removed was bullet-slow down on hit. Anyone remember that? Remember when CCP Wolfman killed that off because the players wanted it?

This would also mean TTK would increase due to the unbearably hard-to-hit gun game mechanics. Suits that are easy to nyx are suddenly a lot harder to kill because you're having to work against the hit detection issues -as well as- the lack of aim assist (turn it off sometime and see how well you fair =P)

Of course then you'd have all the guys saying "nerf the strafe speed!" like they've been doing, obviously, because that'd balance everything out, right? Slow down the strafe speed, add mass penalties, increase the penalties to armor and suddenly shield tanking becomes a lot more valuable. In fact, if you removed aim assist, you'd basically -have- to do this because the TTK would be excruciatingly high for some suits. Just as well, you'd have to lower the strafe speeds to give rifle-users a fighting chance against people spamming explosives/gimmicky splash weaponry.



This would be a direct revision of Dust 514 -back- to Pre-Uprising 1.4.

We didn't really get working Aim Assist until mid-way through Uprising because it was broken back in Closed Beta and was later revised and made functional, then re-implemented.

Strafe speeds weren't nearly as fast as they are until mid-way through Uprising and that happened purely because of a bug that -literally everyone wanted to keep- at the time. Hit up DustSearch.com if you don't believe me on that =P The bug was met with unanimous appeal because armor tanking suddenly became more viable and a bit more on-par with shield tankers who had both HP and Speed whereas Armor tankers often sacrificed extraordinary amounts of speed (Complex Armor Plates were -10% back then) for their HP and the HP values were less than they are now. We also did not have reactives/ferroscales.

So, whenever I see people clamoring to have aim assist taken out and/or strafe speeds nerfed... I can't help but chuckle because the game we currently have is -exactly what was asked for- and now that it doesn't work in their favor, they want it revised. The only thing that remains consistent from in the Dust 514 community is that the players are incredibly indecisive

But in cases like this I love to quote Hans Jagerblitzen (CPM 0), who said something along the lines of the players being completely unable to provide meaningful feedback for a game that even the developers aren't sure of what they want from. Tactical or Twitch? High or low TTK? The players still wonder. Beyond that, we'll always quarrel because we have different ideas of what this game is -supposed- to be because it was never established/set in stone =P

I like that strafing while effectively maintaining your aim on a target (who might also be strafing) is a skill that should be rewarded.

EDIT: Also, a big part of working hit detection that we complained about until it got removed was bullet-slow down on hit. Anyone remember

The argument of "Everyone has it, so it's fine" is rendered void, by the opposite argument "It will be fair, because nobody has it."

Personally, I find shooting games more fun, when you can miss (Without having to aim 5 meters away from someone) It also makes using cover more useful, as people will actually have to take that extra time lining up the shot, rather than just spray near you.

AA may well be a way to negate the hit detection issues (Aka shoddy framerate) but suggesting it's "a requirement for all console shooters" is just plain wrong... If anything it detracts from the key element of the games, which is to aim your shots better than the other guy.

This modern age of handholding in games is getting a little silly... I mean, why not just have all the bullets hit, have it completely down to range/health/damage... I bet half the people here dismiss turn based strategy games, but it is pretty much the direction some games are going.



Well, which is it?

Do you think people should be rewarded for keeping their aim while strafing, or should they have most of the work done for them with aim assist?



Or would people live long enough to shoot back, because they didn't lose the fight due to not being the first guy to start shooting?

The game already has the necessary mechanics to combat the strafing, they just need to implement it for all weapons, instead of just the snipers. Even the slightest move throw off a snipers aim entirely, even just changing to ads throws it off.
Do the same for all weapons, and you'll see the wiggle wiggle strafe end.

Add stamina usage for strafing, at the same drain as jumping, and the game will win as a whole.

I played the last 2 months or so with aim assist off(on accident). I turned it back on when I realized it was off and I learned one thing. Without the games aim assistance, every rifle is useless

More likely that your reliance on AA makes you useless without it.

I have never used aim assist, and I don't have any problems with any weapons.

This thread has been written by an AA scrub who exaggerates framerate issues, and is no good with parabolic weapons because he "can't aim worth salt" with a non-hitscan weapon at range.

More likely that your reliance on AA makes you useless without it.

I have never used aim assist, and I don't have any problems with any weapons.

You do realize I was part of PFBH toward the end of closed beta/beginning of Uprising..? Harlequin13, ANON Illuminati, and demens grimwulf can attest to my shooter ability prior to the introduction of AA. Don't talk trash unless you have evidence to back it up, bro. Just makes you look really, really stupid.

Strafing in of itself is fine, what is messed up is wiggle wiggle. Strafing is a valid tactic alright, it allows you to give yourself just a few more miliseconds to think of a counter attack to the threat but this game has bullet magnetism that is a bit on the strong side and there is a lack of inertia. These two factors alone are abused heavily in this game and is called skill. Setting your sensitivity to max while wiggling and letting aim assist do the dirty work is far from skill.

I have no problems with AA be it that it exists or not is none of my concern. I will admit I thought to myself a while back that aim assist is messing with this game but thinking more on it, I don't think that's the case.