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Z Vatican Hentai Federation 18	Posted - 2015.06.10 17:08:00 - [1] - Quote I've been waiting for adv/proto dropships since tanks seem to get all the crap. They get adv/proto tanks and dropships are still at basic. I want to see an Advance ADS or a proto ADS. With how things are going now, ADS'ing nowadays is literally impossible without losing one in a match. Of course it depends on the skill of the pilot and the fact you have to watch out for Swarms and forge guns that can pop you within seconds. If you're going to give tanks all this Adv/ proto variants, then why not dropships? Dropships in general are inferior to tanks in general already. So why not find something to get us dropships pilots interested in it again? *Caldari is Life- State Peacekeeper- Enemies of the Gallente*
Text Grant PIanet Express Smart Deploy 431	Posted - 2015.06.10 23:42:00 - [2] - Quote The last match I was in, I called in a rail tank to kill an ADS. There was also 1 friendly forge gunner, and 1 friendly swarmer. On the opposing team was 1 ADS. The ADS never died, and was able to kill the whole match. You must be doing it wrong.
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 836	Posted - 2015.06.10 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Z Vatican wrote: I've been waiting for adv/proto dropships since tanks seem to get all the crap. They get adv/proto tanks and dropships are still at basic. I want to see an Advance ADS or a proto ADS. With how things are going now, ADS'ing nowadays is literally impossible without losing one in a match. Of course it depends on the skill of the pilot and the fact you have to watch out for Swarms and forge guns that can pop you within seconds. If you're going to give tanks all this Adv/ proto variants, then why not dropships? Dropships in general are inferior to tanks in general already. So why not find something to get us dropships pilots interested in it again? Dropships should get ADV and PRO hulls, and of course they are inferior to tanks. They are meant for transport not killing. They need to introduce gunships for that.
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.06.11 00:42:00 - [4] - Quote Text Grant wrote: The last match I was in, I called in a rail tank to kill an ADS. There was also 1 friendly forge gunner, and 1 friendly swarmer. On the opposing team was 1 ADS. The ADS never died, and was able to kill the whole match. You must be doing it wrong. I'm fairly certain it was YOU who was doing it wrong. This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 836	Posted - 2015.06.11 00:45:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Text Grant wrote: The last match I was in, I called in a rail tank to kill an ADS. There was also 1 friendly forge gunner, and 1 friendly swarmer. On the opposing team was 1 ADS. The ADS never died, and was able to kill the whole match. You must be doing it wrong. I'm fairly certain it was YOU who was doing it wrong. These things happen fiend, pythons can manage it but the incubus is rather lacking and has been for a while.
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.06.11 01:47:00 - [6] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Text Grant wrote: The last match I was in, I called in a rail tank to kill an ADS. There was also 1 friendly forge gunner, and 1 friendly swarmer. On the opposing team was 1 ADS. The ADS never died, and was able to kill the whole match. You must be doing it wrong. I'm fairly certain it was YOU who was doing it wrong. These things happen fiend, pythons can manage it but the incubus is rather lacking and has been for a while. I'd have to see video of a Python going more than about 10/0 farming infantry in a proto AV environment, at least not without full squad support. Either they're doing something tremendously right, or the enemy is doing something painfully wrong. 10/0 meaning no ship loss, since people like to bail before they boom. This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1	Posted - 2015.06.11 04:26:00 - [7] - Quote Z Vatican wrote: I've been waiting for adv/proto dropships since tanks seem to get all the crap. They get adv/proto tanks and dropships are still at basic. I want to see an Advance ADS or a proto ADS. With how things are going now, ADS'ing nowadays is literally impossible without losing one in a match. Of course it depends on the skill of the pilot and the fact you have to watch out for Swarms and forge guns that can pop you within seconds. If you're going to give tanks all this Adv/ proto variants, then why not dropships? Dropships in general are inferior to tanks in general already. So why not find something to get us dropships pilots interested in it again? Because Dust514. And CCP. And a really teeny little dev squad for Dust. ADS is not important currently. It is on the list or so we were made to believe. But it has not progressed further than "hey, it's on the list" that I am aware of. Hopefully they will figure out how to balance shields first, although I personally believe that shields being weak is the actual goal of the current situation in tanks. And to a lesser degree in derp ships. Hmm, what do you call a glass cannon derp ship? Python. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings 1	Posted - 2015.06.11 05:48:00 - [8] - Quote Afyer the 70% nerf to ADS firepower I lost all hope at seeing them balance in the near future. They needed a fix but 70% was using the nerf hammer. It should have been lowered to 5% RoF like all the bonises on assault suits that need the same ammount of invested sp. If they wanted 3% then it should have been switched to damage instead of RoF to give it the equivalent og an enhanced damage mod at level 5 which is more than balanced Plasma Cannon Advocate
Z Vatican Hentai Federation 19	Posted - 2015.06.12 02:04:00 - [9] - Quote I've always been a fan of the python. Plus fighting an incubus is just ******. The majority of incubus pilots I've faced are just faggots who can't aim and just ram into you with their hardeners since they suck at piloting. Getting shot down by a Incubus with a rail turret/ Missile is more satisfying to me than a ** ramming into me because he lacks the skills to aim with a turret. I do agree that Pythons have been nerfed extremely but I mean... the ROF shouldn't of have been changed since AV is still dominant towards vehicles so I never saw the problem. Isn't the point of the fast ROF is to kill the AV user before they kill me? A beacon swarm prof 5 with triple complex damage mod can take me down in just seconds. Caldari is Life- State Peacekeeper- Enemies of the Gallente**
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 837	Posted - 2015.06.12 08:05:00 - [10] - Quote The RoF was lowered because of the skill bonuses stacking if 2 people with the python skill were in a dropships. It was broken. And don't complain Officer AV can kill you, until we get officer modules to properly counter it (might be a while). Officer gear is meant to be powerful

Z Vatican Hentai Federation 19	Posted - 2015.06.12 19:45:00 - [11] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: The RoF was lowered because of the skill bonuses stacking if 2 people with the python skill were in a dropships. It was broken. And don't complain Officer AV can kill you, until we get officer modules to properly counter it (might be a while). Officer gear is meant to be powerful Of course. I myself love using the Beacons on those GV.0 Madrugars with a MK.0 Commando. Best possible feeling of destroying a tank that cost over 1 mil. But thats besides the point xD. What I'm saying is that I just wish there were more countermeasures for assault dropships to get the swarms off my tail. For example flying high up or too fast is a countermeasure. And so is flying low in environment full of Swarms/Forges with buildings around. I dunno maybe something that could throw the swarms off course? Fits in the high slot and has a 30 second recharge. can get rid of 1 set of swarms. Not too OP or anything. I use officer gear quite a lot but have decided its pointless. I dont like buying stuff I lose. Of course the best thing is to NOT DIE. But just using advance gear to slay has its own fun. Just saying ADS solo isn't all that great. Today I was finally able to use a fitting I've been waiting to use. Got 2 Python Fitting High Slots: Enhanced Heavy Shield Ext Complex Light Shield Ext Complex Shield Hardener Low Slot: Complex PG Turret: XT Missile Launcher. Shield: 3095 Armor: 960 Python Fitting 2 High Slots: Enhanced Heavy shield Ext Complex Light Shield Booster Complex Shield Hardener Low Slot: Complex PG Turret: XT Missile Launcher Shield : 2555 Armor: 960 Right now these are the only fittings that works around Proto AV enviroments. I'm able to tank the hits and regenerate enough shield to come back to the battle field with my hardener ready for use. But these fittings only work with those with Shield Optimization level 4+ and Missile Optimization Level 3+ *Caldari is Life- State Peacekeeper- Enemies of the Gallente*
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 488	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:05:00 - [12] - Quote Text Grant wrote: The last match I was in, I called in a rail tank to kill an ADS. There was also 1 friendly forge gunner, and 1 friendly swarmer. On the opposing team was 1 ADS. The ADS never died, and was able to kill the whole match. You must be doing it wrong. Sorry but you're doing it wrong. If you can't kill an ADS with a rail tank you got to be terrible as two shots with the right timing and the ADS is dead 100% of the time. The only way the ADS can survive is by staying out of range or above you, in both case it has no impact on the game. When I'm alone with my swarm I destroy the ADS 90% of the time, the 10% being because I got attacked by infantry. So if I'm already able to do that alone, I don't see how a swarm, a forge gun and a rail tank can't take it down except if the AVers are noobs.


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