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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:32:00 -
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note that this is not meant to fix it right away- simply rather to fix as time goes on.
1st:
in PC you need at least 1/2 your team to play in order to receive any payout.
This will impede farmers, if not, it will be unsustainable to be used effectively.
2nd:
limit corp taxes to a ratio.
Simply put, this reduces the income that directors make off of their ISK Pigs.
To do this, the upper limit of taxes should be D/n, where D is the numer of directors active in 30 days, and n is the number of total corp mates.
3rd:
'tax' prototype exuipment.
This will be a slap on the wrist to people with big wallets. This system will be implemented by taxing 1/10,000 of a player's total wallet on any proto equipment. The numbe can slide, but the property has to stick.
4th:
The common player has to support it
CCP won't pay any attention to things that player donot support, so we must stick to this I we hope to do something about it.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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SHERIFF joe arapio
US Border Patrol
59
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:47:00 -
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LOL I have 564,000,000 Million ISK. Just hit 85M SP. 14 proto Suits. Dropsuit Upgrades Maxes. All weapons proto excpet knives (I know).
I bought 3 of the Caldari Merc pack and 4 each of the others.
I will never stop running Proto. You will pry from my cold dead hands. Which should be pretty easy. But then I still hundreds and hundreds of proto suits already bought.
I give away Officer Weapons for Free.
IF my merc had to take a dump,,,I could wipe it with isk. I gave a newbie 5Million isk from local just because he was trying to learn.
Proto gear is not the MONSTER here. It is the teams and squads. TEAMWORK IS OP,,get that through your dumb thick heads
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:48:00 -
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1 - Pointless. No one farms anymore as its totally pointless earning 0 isk. PC 2.0 is coming regardless.
2 - I didn't realise we were all farming passive isk still.
3 - So comparing my mains current wallet approximately to a 10,000th of it on one of my Prototype suits, assuming Complex = Prototype:
192,500 ISK for Tax of Prototype Modules
214,365 ISK for Fully Fit Suit
=406,865 ISK
So tell me - why would ANYONE EVER use Prototype, when it costs more than my Assault Dropship?
4 - If anyone supports this they are struggling to cope with the fact they are poorer than people like me, not as good as people like me, and need to find a way to get on our level.
If you want to tackle something like this, at least think your points through. For example, Point 3 is more ridiculous than hanging yourself off a 52nd floor balcony by your balls.
Choo choo chooooo, lets all f*ck a blender.
Dench's Thrift Shop <-- WIP
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:57:00 -
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4 man squads, with automated squads within battles. You know like the old days.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
901
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:45:00 -
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Or you could just all go to the objectives and fight as hard as you can. Earning more WP in the process thus more ISK. Problem solved. People care more about kd than the win, once people realise this is not COD, its a game based on teamplay, then everyone will be better off.
Vote Dust for PS4
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
314
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:54:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:LOL I have 564,000,000 Million ISK. Just hit 85M SP. 14 proto Suits. Dropsuit Upgrades Maxes. All weapons proto excpet knives (I know).
I bought 3 of the Caldari Merc pack and 4 each of the others.
I will never stop running Proto. You will pry from my cold dead hands. Which should be pretty easy. But then I still hundreds and hundreds of proto suits already bought.
I give away Officer Weapons for Free.
IF my merc had to take a dump,,,I could wipe it with isk. I gave a newbie 5Million isk from local just because he was trying to learn.
Proto gear is not the MONSTER here. It is the teams and squads. TEAMWORK IS OP,,get that through your dumb thick heads
EDIT: I didnt read any of the BS OP because tired of the photostomping complaints. Then to see its filled with more limits and restrictions. Vomit inducing. Get Bent
The ship's not sinking! as a matter of fact, my side just rose 50 feet in the air!
Denchlad 7 wrote:
3 - So comparing my mains current wallet approximately to a 10,000th of it on one of my Prototype suits, assuming Complex = Prototype:
192,500 ISK for Tax of Prototype Modules
214,365 ISK for Fully Fit Suit
=406,865 ISK
If I consider all of my ISK spread across all of my characters:
3,850,000 ISK for Tax of Prototype Modules
214,365 ISK for Fully Fit Suit
=4,064,365 ISK
So tell me - why would ANYONE EVER use Prototype, when it costs more than my Assault Dropship, or more than you will ever earn at the end of a PC?.
Hey look, It works!
Yokal Bob wrote:Or you could just all go to the objectives and fight as hard as you can. Earning more WP in the process thus more ISK. Problem solved. People care more about kd than the win, once people realise this is not COD, its a game based on teamplay, then everyone will be better off.
nope.
nobody thinks this is COD.
Nobody wants this to be COD
Nobody wants to be stomped.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:59:00 -
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Nope.
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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SHERIFF joe arapio
US Border Patrol
60
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:01:00 -
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Looks like your bs ideas have garnered alot of support. How's the weather up there.     |
SaberFox
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:09:00 -
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emm kay wrote:
nope.
nobody thinks this is COD.
Nobody wants this to be COD
Nobody wants to be stomped.
Want to bet on that? People's mentality says otherwise. Also what does the above have to do with being stomped? It happens, build a bridge and get over it.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:09:00 -
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Proto-stomping doesn't actually exist.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
314
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:16:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Proto-stomping doesn't actually exist.
neither does global warming.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:21:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Proto-stomping doesn't actually exist. neither does global warming.
Apparently dumbasses are a myth aswell.
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 05:38:00 -
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Get rid of shared scans in pubs. The lone wolves would start harvesting proto, just thinking about it makes me salivate.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:45:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:LOL I have 564,000,000 Million ISK. Just hit 85M SP. 14 proto Suits. Dropsuit Upgrades Maxes. All weapons proto excpet knives (I know).
I bought 3 of the Caldari Merc pack and 4 each of the others.
I will never stop running Proto. You will pry from my cold dead hands. Which should be pretty easy. But then I still hundreds and hundreds of proto suits already bought.
I give away Officer Weapons for Free.
IF my merc had to take a dump,,,I could wipe it with isk. I gave a newbie 5Million isk from local just because he was trying to learn.
Proto gear is not the MONSTER here. It is the teams and squads. TEAMWORK IS OP,,get that through your dumb thick heads
EDIT: I didnt read any of the BS OP because tired of the photostomping complaints. Then to see its filled with more limits and restrictions. Vomit inducing. Get Bent
I've been saying the same for almost 2 years. Albeit in more polite language :P
+1
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
569
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:15:00 -
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Decrease skill points needed for proto so pretty much everyone can access(no excuse) and INCREASE PROTO PRICE.
48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.06.06 02:04:00 -
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emm kay wrote:note that this is not meant to fix it right away- simply rather to fix as time goes on.
1st:
in PC you need at least 1/2 your team to play in order to receive any payout.
This will impede farmers, if not, it will be unsustainable to be used effectively.
2nd:
limit corp taxes to a ratio.
Simply put, this reduces the income that directors make off of their ISK Pigs.
To do this, the upper limit of taxes should be D/n, where D is the numer of directors active in 30 days, and n is the number of total corp mates.
3rd:
'tax' prototype exuipment.
This will be a slap on the wrist to people with big wallets. This system will be implemented by taxing 1/10,000 of a player's total wallet on any proto equipment. The numbe can slide, but the property has to stick.
4th:
The common player has to support it
CCP won't pay any attention to things that player donot support, so we must stick to this I we hope to do something about it.
But the issue most people have is against losing by a landslide.
How do you feel about normal or mixed stomping? (as opposed to protostomping)
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Miokai Zahou
WarRavens
477
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Posted - 2015.06.06 09:58:00 -
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emm kay wrote:note that this is not meant to fix it right away- simply rather to fix as time goes on.
1st:
in PC you need at least 1/2 your team to play in order to receive any payout.
This will impede farmers, if not, it will be unsustainable to be used effectively.
2nd:
limit corp taxes to a ratio.
Simply put, this reduces the income that directors make off of their ISK Pigs.
To do this, the upper limit of taxes should be D/n, where D is the numer of directors active in 30 days, and n is the number of total corp mates.
3rd:
'tax' prototype exuipment.
This will be a slap on the wrist to people with big wallets. This system will be implemented by taxing 1/10,000 of a player's total wallet on any proto equipment. The numbe can slide, but the property has to stick.
4th:
The common player has to support it
CCP won't pay any attention to things that player donot support, so we must stick to this I we hope to do something about it.
Oh look another stupid post by another butt hurt scrub, wanna stop the stomps? Get a team.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head. pâ+(n+ƒ-ön+ƒ)n+ë
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
649
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Posted - 2015.06.06 10:21:00 -
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Teamwork and actual guns kill are always going to reign supreme, regardless of gear used but IMO the gear needs to be tiercided because the advantage gained over others when using it is just insane. everyone always states that squads and teamwork are what causes stomps, but do you really need twice the hit points, 20% more regen and 10-15% more damage on top of that? Of course you do because its not fair that you positioned poorly and a scrub got the jump on you, your Suit will carry your ass through that encounter as you spin around and waste him and his buddy, after all your a vet he doesn't deserve to kill you no matter how bad you play.
These numbers are pulled out my ass but the difference in performance in the tiers of gear with passive skill is monumental and would be considered INSANELY UNBALANCED in any other game. The gear needs to be brought down closer in power level so it's fairer for newer players and skill reigns supreme overall. I say this not from the point of some but hurt scrub, but from the point of view of a hardened vet who earned his kd/r of almost 4 from taking a dump on newer/inexperienced/poorer players despite this being my first fps EVER.
The tiers need to be removed or re balanced it's too unfair. The difference in gear in planetside 2 beta I've played is way fairer, I'm not saying it's a better game but infantry combat is a lot more balanced, there's no arms race to the best gear it's all side grade weaponry and the suits slots don't provide much of an advantage over a newer player. I'm not saying dust should be as simple as planetside is but it should be as balanced and fair.
If it's important to you, you'll find a way. If not you'll find an excuse.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
61
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Posted - 2015.06.06 10:31:00 -
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Personally I would just say get rid of the differences in slot layout across tiers because really thts the biggest limiting factor of the lower tier suits is their inability to really customize anywhere near as much as the proto suits. I even agree that (other than capability to fit more moduals) the tiers make little difference and most of the stomping is due to inexperience and poor team coordination, which you can't really fix with mechanics, but at least by normalizing tiers and slowing basic suits to fit more than 3 modules it will take away the appearance of proto gear being the culprit...well the main culprit anyway.
Any way in direct response, and assuming normalization of layouts gets shot down for whatever reason the taxing idea is really bad and your response to this being pointed out(original poster) reveals you have quite a bit of rage towards proto gear which may be clouding your judgment.
I also think a game mode which limits gear tier, or suit meta level would be a good idea to allow people to control the level at which they compete at least stat wise, as well as letting them experiment and learn the game without vets stomping them (weather gear is the culprit or experience/squad coordination is irrelevant) |
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