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Vrain Matari wrote:

THUNDERGROOVE wrote:

Vrain Matari wrote:

Interesting.

Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart.

'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart.

Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus.

The information comes from Market orders Vrain.

Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less.

Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it.

Agreed of course, but the primary variable is still what peeps are actually running, followed by the efficacy of that item. We've seen from Rattati's efficacy graphs for rifles and dropsuits that the numbers are relatively close in both those categories.


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G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 139	Posted - 2015.06.08 06:18:00 - [1] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Petra 222 SoM wrote: I'm not saying whats balanced and not, just that its funny to see the data in spite of the new trend in complaints. Once again, look at the Historical Graphs section of the site. Tryhardinator is currently further away from accuracy than it would be normally due to some problems in data collection over the past couple weeks. It'll probably take a few more weeks before it becomes genuinely representative again. It seems that data from CCP is bad for more than 24 hours, resulting in dust.thang storing the incorrect values long-term. Have fiddled a bit with the process, next run will go back 14 days (instead of just 1) to collect hopefully-correct data from CREST. After this, will to try keep it at +3 days, assuming CCP's export process will have correct data there.
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2015.06.09 09:53:00 - [2] - Quote Applied work-around, seems to work but means processing is a bit slower. TryHardinator uses last 10 days' worth of data, so may be a bit slow to reflect certain types of changes. Last 24-48 hours of data from CCP seems to be b0rked at times, so precision can be "questionable" at times, but the 10-days data-set limits this to less-than-10% uncertainty. Dust.Thang only updates at irregular intervals, which can impact results - usually best to review early in the week.
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:59:00 - [3] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Interesting. Surprised tbh, only assaults in the top ten are Cal. Also surprised by all those ARs at the top of the chart. 'OP' Minsault not even on the chart, can't imagine where it's going to be after the nerf. 'OP' CR also not on the chart. Also surprised to see the OP Scr at #6 tho i suppose that's partially gated by Amarr Assault, also not on the list. Peeps are using the Scr on non-AmAssaults, meaning it's viable without it's bonus. The information comes from Market orders Vrain. Prototype and more powerful suits are less likely to die and as a result are purchased less. Because it all runs on Market data, if you have enough time/ISK you could very very easily skew it. Agreed of course, but the primary variable is still what peeps are actually running, followed by the efficacy of that item. We've seen from Rattati's efficacy graphs for rifles and dropsuits that the numbers are relatively close in both those categories. Might I suggest to ask CCP Ratatti, CCP Frame, and CCP FoxFour for additional data via CREST covering e.g. daily Kills-per-Spawn-In (K/S)? At the very least, it would save Ratatti from having to run various extracts manually