DUST Search - [Idea] Remove Domination Game Mode

Denchlad 7 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Denchlad 7 wrote:

Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off.

I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition.

Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely.

You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment.

For some people they are. I mean you've probably been playing an infantry based class for the better part of a decade now if you got in ground floor on the original FPS game.

At this point infantry work is a necessity to win matched but it feels contrived and boring to me. Not nearly as entertaining as driving an LAV or HAV.

As True said. I primarily played ADS back then. Assaults are fun, just not as much.

Most stompers played it as 2 Good Tankers = Win, back in that Ambush.

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Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.06.04 15:26:00 - [1] - Quote Why? Because then people get to actually play the other modes. Domination is constantly full of protostomp squads and yet nobody ever plays Skirmish. I got sick of the standard 'Queue Skirm/Dom/Acq -> Get Dom -> Four hundred proto stompers on the other side -> Rinse/Repeat' and tried queuing solely for Skirmish: not a single match in over 45 minutes. So seriously, can we just remove Domination? It is a bad game mode (because of awful maps/sockets) that attracts the douchiest of tactics and the scrubbiest of players while giving players very little opportunity to come back from a near defeat... Unlike Skirmish, where you can always go to another part of the map away from the protostomp squads. /Rant. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.04 16:50:00 - [2] - Quote Though I don't share the dislike of Domination... I queue up for everything in pubs, but end up with almost pure dom. Gets boring.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.06.04 20:57:00 - [3] - Quote The best idea is to actually improve the game with a balance between content updates and fixes. We also need better incentives for recruiting as the current recruiter system in the Dust 514 website is not enough anymore and needs to be updated. And with PC 2.0 and Power Cores being more likely to be implemented, we might see some more players come in or return from hiatus. The more players we have, the more active the other game modes become. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.06.05 01:34:00 - [4] - Quote Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. Choo choo chooooo, lets all fck a blender. Dench's Thrift Shop* <-- WIP
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.06.05 03:42:00 - [5] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.05 03:49:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment. For some people they are. I mean you've probably been playing an infantry based class for the better part of a decade now if you got in ground floor on the original FPS game. At this point infantry work is a necessity to win matched but it feels contrived and boring to me. Not nearly as entertaining as driving an LAV or HAV. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.06.05 03:58:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment. For some people they are. I mean you've probably been playing an infantry based class for the better part of a decade now if you got in ground floor on the original FPS game. At this point infantry work is a necessity to win matched but it feels contrived and boring to me. Not nearly as entertaining as driving an LAV or HAV. As True said. I primarily played ADS back then. Assaults are fun, just not as much. Most stompers played it as 2 Good Tankers = Win, back in that Ambush. Choo choo chooooo, lets all fck a blender. Dench's Thrift Shop* <-- WIP
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H No Context 841	Posted - 2015.06.05 04:00:00 - [8] - Quote The reason Domination is so widely played is this. 1. Gives the most SP out of all the other gamemodes 2. Gives the most isk per game out of all the other gamemodes 3. Simple objective but a short game like Ambush 4. Domination always has the most "interesting matches" For the casual gamer this is the best choice for you. This is the game mode where you want a good fun game, and you don't want to spend 15 minutes before the match deciding tactics. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.05 04:05:00 - [9] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment. For some people they are. I mean you've probably been playing an infantry based class for the better part of a decade now if you got in ground floor on the original FPS game. At this point infantry work is a necessity to win matched but it feels contrived and boring to me. Not nearly as entertaining as driving an LAV or HAV. As True said. I primarily played ADS back then. Assaults are fun, just not as much. Most stompers played it as 2 Good Tankers = Win, back in that Ambush. Two good tankers/ADS pilots usually do amount to a win in most game modes outside of PC I find simply because those players can mitigate their vehicles weaknesses, leverage the strengths, and create an environment where their team has more rifles than the enemy team despite removing two players from the objectives. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood RUST415 767	Posted - 2015.06.05 04:11:00 - [10] - Quote You can't remove domination just because it's the only match type worth playing. (Unless it's close to downtime. For those last 15 minutes, Ambush is king!)

Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.05 12:25:00 - [11] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Domination wouldn't be like that if Ambush wasn't killed off. I used to play Ambush all the time through the day, besides Domination in the early hours of the morning, or Skirmish for PC or FW. Once the last change occurred in Ambush, it died overnight as no one could use vehicles anymore, so I noticed very quickly that my squad leaders would deploy us into Domination, where we totally annihilated everyone, until all the other stompers joined us in the following days, making Domination the more aptly named Domibush. I search all 4 gamemodes, last night I played 7 games, 6 Domination, 1 Skirmish, 0 Ambush, 0 Acquisition. Reintroducing vehicles to Ambush is the only way revert this, even though it is a backward step entirely. You make it sound as if vehicles are the only things that give you enjoyment. For some people they are. I mean you've probably been playing an infantry based class for the better part of a decade now if you got in ground floor on the original FPS game. At this point infantry work is a necessity to win matched but it feels contrived and boring to me. Not nearly as entertaining as driving an LAV or HAV. As True said. I primarily played ADS back then. Assaults are fun, just not as much. Most stompers played it as 2 Good Tankers = Win, back in that Ambush. The best thing about Ambush (for me at least) was the fact that you would almost always have 2 tanks to play against, but with no redzone for them to run and hide in. As a vehicle user, this was the most fun place to use them... Though most people just went blaster scrub and tried to farm infantry, which made it all the more amusing to pull out a missile tank and screw that plan up for them. Would really like another mode with no one sided redzones... But with vehicles. Also I wonder how many AV users had the same idea as me... Noticed there were always a few forgers/swarmers at the start of the battle.
DJINN Jecture Templar of the Glowing Blade 400	Posted - 2015.06.05 12:57:00 - [12] - Quote Removing Scotty, and placing the match queue up for us to pick as was seen a very long time ago may be the best solution to the issue described in OP's post. I feel this game mode has a better reception than any other game mode when trying to fill squads as well as from a solo merc standpoint because there is only one objective and you know where players are going to congregate to shoot at. If its proto-bears you are worried about then run BPO fits and harden up. *-ç +æ+Ä ß+¦ß¦+Gé¦ß+¡ !!!* *ß¦äß¦â-à*
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 778	Posted - 2015.06.05 15:55:00 - [13] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Why? Because then people get to actually play the other modes. Domination is constantly full of protostomp squads and yet nobody ever plays Skirmish. I got sick of the standard 'Queue Skirm/Dom/Acq -> Get Dom -> Four hundred proto stompers on the other side -> Rinse/Repeat' and tried queuing solely for Skirmish: not a single match in over 45 minutes. So seriously, can we just remove Domination? It is a bad game mode (because of awful maps/sockets) that attracts the douchiest of tactics and the scrubbiest of players while giving players very little opportunity to come back from a near defeat... Unlike Skirmish, where you can always go to another part of the map away from the protostomp squads. /Rant. Skirmish sucks. No thanks.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.06.05 20:30:00 - [14] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Skirmish sucks. No thanks. At least there's always something to try and do. Dom just ends two minutes in 95% of the time. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 55	Posted - 2015.06.05 21:09:00 - [15] - Quote Domination is simple, that's why everyone plays it. Idiot blueberries always flock off to different area's otherwise, at least in domination there's 1 single point where all the blues flock to, you want to end proto stomping? Not gonna happen, for as long as prototype gear exists in the game, you'll never end proto stomping, also because in some case's the suits themselves just plain suck until it reaches prototype, where then it'll actually be balanced gameplay, if I had all the slots on my cal assault proto that I would on my basic and ADV gear, I wouldn't need to run proto as much, if at all, then, proto would be entirely situational and possibly unnecessary - Redundant. Would also make it fairer for the scrubs of dust since those exact same module counts are why this game is horribly balanced anyway.... G.R.A.V.E - Dead men tell no tale...
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood RUST415 767	Posted - 2015.06.05 21:10:00 - [16] - Quote Skirmish is boring to me, because everyone gets spread too thin. You HAVE to move, otherwise you'll either be sitting at a desolate letter with nothing to do, or you'll be there alone and get stomped by 5 enemies at once. In Domination, everyone is nice and concentrated, even if it's not at the letter.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 782	Posted - 2015.06.05 22:17:00 - [17] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Skirmish sucks. No thanks. At least there's always something to try and do. Dom just ends two minutes in 95% of the time. Believe it or not, theres always something to try and do in Dom too. Just creating a zone of stability somewhere can get you back in the game. If you are up against a good squad of six you're going to be boned either way unless you have a similar squad, skirmish or dom, doesnt matter.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 783	Posted - 2015.06.05 22:19:00 - [18] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Skirmish is boring to me, because everyone gets spread too thin. You HAVE to move, otherwise you'll either be sitting at a desolate letter with nothing to do, or you'll be there alone and get stomped by 5 enemies at once. In Domination, everyone is nice and concentrated, even if it's not at the letter. This. Skirmish is boring as dry turkey slices, with very few exceptions like the MCC drydock map and theeeee... fkn I dunno theres a couple more than are nice and compact, who knows what the names are. Run of the mill spread out skirmish maps reward boring sneaky play, squad stomping, and link spamming way too much, why bother.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.05 22:48:00 - [19] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Skirmish sucks. No thanks. At least there's always something to try and do. Dom just ends two minutes in 95% of the time. Believe it or not, theres always something to try and do in Dom too. Just creating a zone of stability somewhere can get you back in the game. Yeah... There's plenty of 'bore the enemy to death' tactics in Dom... Just ignore the letter, set up shop somewhere else... Then when enough enemies get bored, they'll come out looking for something to do. Wait, what am I saying, that's not just Dom... That's every damn game-mode at the minute... You'll usually find that "zone of stability" somewhere in one of the redzones.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 788	Posted - 2015.06.06 18:09:00 - [20] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Skirmish sucks. No thanks. At least there's always something to try and do. Dom just ends two minutes in 95% of the time. Believe it or not, theres always something to try and do in Dom too. Just creating a zone of stability somewhere can get you back in the game. Yeah... There's plenty of 'bore the enemy to death' tactics in Dom... Just ignore the letter, set up shop somewhere else... Then when enough enemies get bored, they'll come out looking for something to do. Wait, what am I saying, that's not just Dom... That's every damn game-mode at the minute... You'll usually find that "zone of stability" somewhere in one of the redzones. If you say so



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