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Foxhound Elite
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:40:00 -
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Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers.
Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:46:00 -
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At some point. Because having balanced vehicles is apparently irrelevant (like how armour HAVs get to just roll around in with impunity while DSs get to stay at the flight ceiling and come down for 5 seconds while their hardeners are up...)
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
270
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:50:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:At some point. Because having balanced vehicles is apparently irrelevant (like how armour HAVs get to just roll around in with impunity while DSs get to stay at the flight ceiling and come down for 5 seconds while their hardeners are up...)
Yes, it should be a full minute.
Petition to ban the trainyard map.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:56:00 -
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kek la kek
"Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - Cat wisdom
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Moochie Cricket
The Templis Dragonaurs
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:07:00 -
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I think it is perfectly fine as is. I mean, as a calmando swarmer I have to press and release R1 THREE WHOLE TIMES to kill a dropship. Not only that but I ALSO have to be pointed in the general direction of the dropship. To top it off, all I have to defend myself is a prof5 proto rail rifle with ONLY three damage mods. What I do takes skill, unlike you scrubby pilots.
FOR THE STATE
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Foxhound Elite
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
743
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:27:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:I think it is perfectly fine as is. I mean, as a calmando swarmer I have to press and release R1 THREE WHOLE TIMES to kill a dropship. Not only that but I ALSO have to be pointed in the general direction of the dropship. To top it off, all I have to defend myself is a prof5 proto rail rifle with ONLY three damage mods. What I do takes skill, unlike you scrubby pilots.
sorry, I .. I didn't realize..
Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:55:00 -
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Don't worry foxhound, I'm sure one day dropships will be useful for more than a quick ride to the top of a tower for a swarm launcher to deny all other dropships.........one day.....
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Prototype Deadpool
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.02 19:08:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers.
They'll never get fixed..
Amarr Assaults ftw.. Killed a whole team with just one suit.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.02 19:15:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Don't worry foxhound, I'm sure one day dropships will be useful for more than a quick ride to the top of a tower for a swarm launcher to deny all other dropships.........one day.....
I can still do suicide runs on your tower.
A 35K viper fit is actually pretty damn effective.
Or that's just a statement on how ****** "better" dropships are.
Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 19:42:00 -
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That's just how dropships are, better means worse, a hit marker on the left means you got hit on the right, landing gear hurts your dropship when you land on it, fitting better guns for gunners means it kills the gunners easier etc
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
193
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Posted - 2015.06.02 19:51:00 -
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I am sorry, but I like them where they are. They need to be transports not attack vehicles. The LAV received a massive nerf too, you don't seem to be complaining about that. The only ground to air weapons are swarms and forge guns. I think any kind of buff will not be what you want because it will be balanced.
We all remember the days when an ADS would hover around a point in a PC denying a whole team even if they had swarms. No one wants that again because it ruins the game. You can't simply be a pilot in an attack ship without serious AA which is where swarms are at now.
Even Battlefield caught on to the stupidity of having air superiority just wreck everyone and removed things like jet fighters.
With the team chat gone, we need to really start leveraging the squad finder!
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
772
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Posted - 2015.06.02 19:55:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers.
Still funny how dropship pilots never complain about large railgun turrets that have far more killing power against dropships than swarms ever had. |
Moochie Cricket
The Templis Dragonaurs
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 20:02:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:I am sorry, but I like them where they are. They need to be transports not attack vehicles. The LAV received a massive nerf too, you don't seem to be complaining about that. The only ground to air weapons are swarms and forge guns. I think any kind of buff will not be what you want because it will be balanced.
We all remember the days when an ADS would hover around a point in a PC denying a whole team even if they had swarms. No one wants that again because it ruins the game. You can't simply be a pilot in an attack ship without serious AA which is where swarms are at now.
Even Battlefield caught on to the stupidity of having air superiority just wreck everyone and removed things like jet fighters.
Plasma cannons, av nades, assault hmgs, mass drivers, flaylocks, turret installations, tanks, and rdvs.
You missed a few.
FOR THE STATE
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Moochie Cricket
The Templis Dragonaurs
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 20:03:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers. Still funny how dropship pilots never complain about large railgun turrets that have far more killing power against dropships than swarms ever had.
Maybe because large turrets require aiming?
FOR THE STATE
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Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:14:00 -
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Why do you care? You play 1 game every 6 months then come to the forums to QQ. You have failed to adapt. |
Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:16:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers. Still funny how dropship pilots never complain about large railgun turrets that have far more killing power against dropships than swarms ever had. Maybe because large turrets require aiming?
Lol #aiming.
Pointing is a more accurate description. |
Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:19:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers.
There was a mention that ADS will be worth it, along with a useful skill tree, and that they'd be a hard counter to tanks (with a gunner).
I would link the post/thread, but I'm on mobile.
Best I can do atm, Fox.
Achura Bloodline
Caldari Loyalist
Join Caldari FW via Kirjuun Saaja
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Foxhound Elite
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
748
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:32:00 -
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Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Why do you care? You play 1 game every 6 months then come to the forums to QQ. You have failed to adapt.
I've been off due to real life comittments but i'm active as ever for a while now, i've been here all along. I'd just like to see some progression to keep this game alive. Adapting is easy, if your boots on the ground. It's a shame when the skies don't belong to the pilots.
Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
162
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:46:00 -
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They do need a buff of some sorts. 3 shots from my basic swarm can drop most of them. 5-6 shots would be better.
CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
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thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:50:00 -
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They need to get buffed and the prices need to come down.
At least in boring matches several of the would be snipers would at least be giving me something to practice on with my FG.
Thor's Emporium
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:52:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Why do you care? You play 1 game every 6 months then come to the forums to QQ. You have failed to adapt. I've been off due to real life comittments but i'm active as ever for a while now, i've been here all along. I'd just like to see some progression to keep this game alive. Adapting is easy, if your boots on the ground. It's a shame when the skies don't belong to the pilots.
Sorry that I rammed you three times 
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:59:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:I am sorry, but I like them where they are. They need to be transports not attack vehicles. The LAV received a massive nerf too, you don't seem to be complaining about that. The only ground to air weapons are swarms and forge guns. I think any kind of buff will not be what you want because it will be balanced.
We all remember the days when an ADS would hover around a point in a PC denying a whole team even if they had swarms. No one wants that again because it ruins the game. You can't simply be a pilot in an attack ship without serious AA which is where swarms are at now.
Even Battlefield caught on to the stupidity of having air superiority just wreck everyone and removed things like jet fighters.
Okay they should be transports, transportation requires a few things to work.
1.) Large maps that make the need for ground troops to be transported
2.) Adequate pay for preforming the role
3.) The ability to land and extract troops
None of those exist in dust. Without these you get the "transport" role dropships currently have. Getting av to high places that then make vehicles useless for the rest of the game.
If we have serious AA then transports won't work due to collision damage and the fact that a pilot won't be able or want to go anywhere close to the ground.
I think everyone thinks LAVs are in a bad place, of course they make the transport role of the dropship obsolete if they are good because they are far more reliable and av can't get Los as easy. Still why should a pilot care about cars with the state dropships are in? Do you even care about cars?
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
731
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Posted - 2015.06.02 22:20:00 -
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Ha, if they buff em, Judge would make dramatic return and his servants would pledge allegiance
Saying what's on people's minds
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Foxhound Elite
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
752
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:40:00 -
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It's an absolute shame that CCP aren't doing anything for dropships anymore. If they want a dynamic battlefield they need to keep dropships in the picture.
Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
776
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:04:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:Ya know, the whole idea of one swarmer being able to destroy, out-range and out-speed (with its missiles at max velocity) any dropship. Cheers. Still funny how dropship pilots never complain about large railgun turrets that have far more killing power against dropships than swarms ever had. Maybe because large turrets require aiming?
As someone who used a militia sica with a damage modded railgun as my primary AV before the tank patch made sicas ****, I can assure you that despite what you may think about the relative skill involved, the tank was WAY easier to kill dropships with. |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:07:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:I think it is perfectly fine as is. I mean, as a calmando swarmer I have to press and release R1 THREE WHOLE TIMES to kill a dropship. Not only that but I ALSO have to be pointed in the general direction of the dropship. To top it off, all I have to defend myself is a prof5 proto rail rifle with ONLY three damage mods. What I do takes skill, unlike you scrubby pilots.
*The Spooks*
Well see right here guys ! Thia is our goal, Seems as if everything is working as intended. Carry on.
*Locks Thread* |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:09:00 -
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When you have more fun in an LAV than in an ADS, and can Fit a Methana better than one, there's a serious problem here that hasn't been assessed. |
Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:11:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:It's an absolute shame that CCP aren't doing anything for dropships anymore. If they want a dynamic battlefield they need to keep dropships in the picture.
You got to remember the Golden Question CCP always asks about the ADS.
"What is an Assault Drop Ship?"
Note that the DS is perfectly fine. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.06.04 07:04:00 -
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Right after they learn how to QQ better than tankers and AV users. |
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