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Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.06.01 23:44:00 -
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Can you please tell me where the 'risk vs reward' is? |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:34:00 -
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yeah, apex suits were a bad design choice. A burden for the future game design.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:36:00 -
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Apex suits were not terrible a design choice, nor was adding isk back to faction warfare. The method that they added isk back to facwar however was done poorly.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:39:00 -
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Bpo suits destroyed the salvage system in Fac War.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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danthrax martin
Bad Blueberries
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:40:00 -
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maybe the risk is to that kdr stat that some people and corps live by?
Suicidal A/V Moron
Suicidal Logi
"All I wanted was a Pepsi!"
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Void Echo
Helix Order
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:05:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:maybe the risk is to that kdr stat that some people and corps live by?
This.
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Founder of Helix Order.
For the Federation, For Freedom, Till all are Free.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:12:00 -
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Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Can you please tell me where the 'risk vs reward' is?
Where it's always been.
If you don't modify your APEX suit at all you've got a suit tiered between basic and ADV. Risking nothing and gaining little.
If you want to add things to it you're risking more. If the APEX suit just doesn't cut it (which would be most competitive matches) Then you have to put it away and pull out real proto.
Apex suits help poor people, which is a good thing. Nobody is going to win matches because of APEX suits.
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:21:00 -
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The risk is that you had to play who knows how many matches and use a bit of isk to earn a free decent suit.
A suit that is pretty good, can beat down STD suits, has a good chance at beating ADV and can compete in a 1v1 with a proto.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:26:00 -
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Clone count and the tragedy of the commons
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:38:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:maybe the risk is to that kdr stat that some people and corps live by? Null and void since you can mod them now.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:40:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The risk is that you had to play who knows how many matches and use a bit of isk to earn a free decent suit.
A suit that is pretty good, can beat down STD suits, has a good chance at beating ADV and can compete in a 1v1 with a proto. That's like saying the risk of a proto suit is that you have buy it. No its you loosing it and the apex suits lack that.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Kinky Fat Bastard
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.06.03 04:23:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:[quote=Kinky Fat Bastard]Nobody is going to win matches because of APEX suits.
Wow. Very shortsighted and wrong.
Matches can be won with milita suits - spam mil heavies to take a point etc.
But of course you know better |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.03 04:46:00 -
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Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Can you please tell me where the 'risk vs reward' is? The risk is there for scrubs who dont have any BPO's at all.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:39:00 -
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I think APEX suits were a good idea to earn back what you lost grinding for the suit, and BPOs to minimize losses in FW since they had removed ISK from Factional. BPOs, i dont know much outside of a unique skin but the risk vs reward is only applicable IMHO, to PC and people that have Proto but don't have ISK coming out of every orifice.
After a certain level of experience and enough ISK, the risk vs reward is practically nonexistent. Why i have respect for people that run BPOs/cheap/lol fits, but at the same time what actually do they have to sink ISK into? Besides restocking fits and maybe paying for some Officer gear and the BPOs we can trade, not much.
So the risk vs reward is similar in both ways. You have enough BPOs to to make a free or close to it suit that can never run out so its basically preservation, then we have the rich that can afford all the Proto and Officer gear they could ever want, now, the loss of a fully decked out Proto suit over several times is never an issue.
So now neither of you are actually losing anything, except Officer gear but if you have enough of it stocked up your not losing out any time soon. So basically the only people who are actually taking risks are the poorer ones that have expensive gear but don't have enough ISK to run it much, so they're the only ones the risk vs reward applies to.
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:49:00 -
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Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:[quote=Kinky Fat Bastard]Nobody is going to win matches because of APEX suits. Wow. Very shortsighted and wrong. Matches can be won with milita suits - spam mil heavies to take a point etc. But of course you know better
Agreed, what's more - Acquisition doesn't count clones, zerg rush!!
(what's funny, some no lifes still care about k/d in that game mode O_o) |
OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni... Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:42:00 -
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dzizur wrote:Kinky Fat Bastard wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:[quote=Kinky Fat Bastard]Nobody is going to win matches because of APEX suits. Wow. Very shortsighted and wrong. Matches can be won with milita suits - spam mil heavies to take a point etc. But of course you know better Agreed, what's more - Acquisition doesn't count clones, zerg rush!! (what's funny, some no lifes still care about k/d in that game mode O_o)
Problems with Zerg rush Amarr Templar 2 the rescue
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