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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:01:00 -
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Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. |
maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:05:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting.
You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:07:00 -
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Because cal & gal like to mirror each other a lot.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:13:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Because cal & gal like to mirror each other a lot.
If that were the case, then the Gallente would have 3% range bonus and 10% dampening. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:15:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod
Amarr*
The precision is awesome at proto. You guys just don't have the range to work with.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:16:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Because cal & gal like to mirror each other a lot.
Wasn't the cal supposed to mirror amarr like in eve? I don't actually know that's why I'm asking
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Haerr
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:17:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod
Come on man, minmatars give up a lot of things (and stuff) to get to be that much quicker than the other races.
Just like the amarr gives up a lot of things (and stuff) to get to be that much slower than the other races.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:19:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Because cal & gal like to mirror each other a lot. Wasn't the cal supposed to mirror amarr like in eve? I don't actually know that's why I'm asking
Tanking-wise, yes.
Never got to doing EWAR, so I'm not sure about that in EVE. My guess is that they disable 'stuff' on enemy ships (something we can't do in Dust, anyways). |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.01 14:18:00 -
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Know why?
Because people were drowning in their tears.
QQ was so strong that they've changed their bonus.
You you only blame yourself if you don't like the shared bonus.
It's balnced.
Ps. Amarr scout *laugh*.
Last time i saw one in PC i was like.. "did they take someone from local chat?"
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.06.01 14:43:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod
And the caldari range bonus is pointless because range without precision does nothing with the new scanning
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:00:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod And the caldari range bonus is pointless because range without precision does nothing with the new scanning
Then run precision mods?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:06:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod And the caldari range bonus is pointless because range without precision does nothing with the new scanning
Helps with finding eqiupmemts.
Better that than gal precision bonus.
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deo volente2
SVER True Blood
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:07:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting.
it was fine many years ago gal had the dampening bonus, cal the precision, both with the same % and same secondary bonuses and they were equal, so of course people kicked and screamed and cried at he injustice of equality, so ccp 'fixxed' it the only way they can,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
too busy playing
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:14:00 -
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Can't tell if serious or not. I'll take it as if you are, but I do agree that the bonuses could have another go around. Short answer is its more or less built like Sentinels were it was meant to be the same bonus despite the slight difference in appearance.
Scouts ewar was balanced more around other scouts rather than anything else, the numbers guy really was focusing on scout v scout, at least between the 3 that participate in scanning, the min has better killing, utility, and movement options instead.
With every scanning scout, 2 precision mods beat out one dampening, 2 damps beat out the precision mods. So essentially, they are nearly the exact same for scanning, despite the illusion that they are radically different. That being the case, the scouts with the dampening bonus have the advantage the scouts without as this can provide cover from scanners. The last bit on scout popularity then just deals on whether it is low slot or high slot focus.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:21:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Joel II X wrote:Seriously. Why?
Either buff Gallente Dampening Bonus, or nerf Caldari Dampening. I refuse to share the same numbers with them (it's bad enough they have the same bonus).
Our primary bonus is equal the Caldari's secondary bonus. That's pretty insulting. You think that's bad? Look at the amar scout. We get a precision bonus that doesn't work half of the time. And the assault m1 can out run us without a sprint mod And the caldari range bonus is pointless because range without precision does nothing with the new scanning Helps with finding eqiupmemts. Better that than gal precision bonus.
Absolutely true, though through testing with this, I'm now of the belief that tacnet isn't 100% functional, because equipment would disappear from tacnet and reappear in tacnet without any change in distance or rings. Equipment also disappears and materializes again on tacnet as I walk closer to it, which is how I first discovered it.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:46:00 -
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Lore wise caldari have better cloaking tech and thus you would think that they have better stealth capabilitys. But since this is Dust we are living in bizarro world.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.01 15:57:00 -
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Actually when it comes to Gallente and Caldari they both prefer Stealth and scanning but in different areas.
In EVE, the Caldari also have ECM to throw into the mix but we don't have that yet so ill stick to what we have no.
Caldari prefer To scan passively, as seen before by their original stats where they were the best passive scanners.
Gallente Prefer to have passive stealth, as seen by dampening modules.
Caldari prefer to active stealth, as seen by the cloak (even though Gallente and Caldari created cloaks when they were united, Caldari utilize the tech more)
Gallente prefer to scan actively, as seen by the active scanner.
To a degree, the Gallente and Caldari do have a lot more in common than people think but the Old DEVs took it way too far when they mirrored every single stat between the two.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.01 16:10:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Lore wise caldari have better cloaking tech and thus you would think that they have better stealth capabilitys. But since this is Dust we are living in bizarro world.
Caldari mostly deal with ECMs, which makes ships lose locks. Nothing even remotely related to anything in Dust. Well, maybe the Cloak since players lose "locking" if used properly and they can't see.
Gallente mostly use RSDs, which lower the range and lock on time of other ships. In a way, it's like the Dampeners that we have in Dust, can't lock on to you if they can't see on their radar.
Sgt Kirk provided more depth than I ever could. I barely played eve and mostly have to rely on guides to keep track of it. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 16:15:00 -
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Because shields suck.
The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
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