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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.05.30 13:13:00 -
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It's only reason for existing is to oppose the Gallente Federation. The State's society has been gutted of all traditional values in all but the most private of affairs. The resources and motivation of the state are all militaristic in nature. The only cohesive force holding the Corporations united is the threat of Gallente invasion. Moreover, these same corporations manage to keep the general populace within the confines of a modern complex of serfdom with the same implied menace.
The very instant the Federation were no longer a threat the State would explode into a spray of warring and self interested factions.
The other Empires need not the others for their own survival, but the State is forever dependent on the Federation for its mere existence.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:20:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's only reason for existing is to oppose the Gallente Federation. The State's society has been gutted of all traditional values in all but the most private of affairs. The resources and motivation of the state are all militaristic in nature. The only cohesive force holding the Corporations united is the threat of Gallente invasion. Moreover, these same corporations manage to keep the general populace within the confines of a modern complex of serfdom with the same implied menace.
The very instant the Federation were no longer a threat the State would explode into a spray of warring and self interested factions.
The other Empires need not the others for their own survival, but the State is forever dependent on the Federation for its mere existence.
YES! Exactly! It also doesnt help that they haven't had a central leader since they ousted Tibus Heth like the other three factions do. Sanmatar Shakor is the central leader of the Republic, President Jacus Roden is the central leader of the Federation, and Empress Jamyl Sarum is the central leader for the Empire. What do the Caldari have for central leadership? A squaballing group called the Chief Executive Panel, made up of the top people from each of their 8 megacorporations. I think they got rid of Tibus just to fulfil their own crave for more power.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2015.05.31 07:43:00 -
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I literally don't even know where to begin telling you how and why you are wrong. I want you to know that if I could take away the one like you got on this post, I would.
>The State has no culture
>Muh Federation
>What's the Raata Empire?
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.31 07:52:00 -
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If the Federation were no more, the FREDOOOM would move to the other empires and turn them into the FREE Amarr Empire, the FREE Caldari state, and the FREE Minmatar Republic.
It's like stars, one explodes, more are born from the dust.
Only the dust is FREDOOOOM!
"Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - Cat wisdom
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.05.31 07:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's only reason for existing is to oppose the Gallente Federation. The State's society has been gutted of all traditional values in all but the most private of affairs. The resources and motivation of the state are all militaristic in nature. The only cohesive force holding the Corporations united is the threat of Gallente invasion. Moreover, these same corporations manage to keep the general populace within the confines of a modern complex of serfdom with the same implied menace.
The very instant the Federation were no longer a threat the State would explode into a spray of warring and self interested factions.
The other Empires need not the others for their own survival, but the State is forever dependent on the Federation for its mere existence.
.... you dont think things through do you?
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Aria Acropolis
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:24:00 -
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Don't blame us. Blame Heth for all this madness :D |
Aria Acropolis
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:26:00 -
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Without us, there is no such thing as Corporations. After all, you rely on us too to sustain the EVE economy since were capitalists selling any form of military hardware across different clusters. |
DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:41:00 -
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Aria Acropolis wrote:Without us, there is no such thing as Corporations. After all, you rely on us too to sustain the EVE economy since were capitalists selling any form of military hardware across different clusters.
There's been corporations ever since the idea of having an economy was accepted. Anyways, none of the Empires rely on the Caldari Empire for any equipment. Granted that that the Republic has bought weaponry from the State, but it is only because it is cheaper than building their own because of discounts in exchange for exclusive rights to natural resources from Minmatar worlds. Ironically, the State clandestinely supply the Ammatar as well to keep both of their resources at low levels.
If the state didn't exist then that part of the Universe may finally know peace.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.01 01:56:00 -
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Both Gallente and Caldari are heavily capitalist entities. Just different forms of capitalism.
May I remind you that both Caldari and Gallente were once in the same Federation. Gallente found the Caldari and brought them to technological advancements and economical advancements but culturally they did not mesh well and that's the main problem between the Gallente and Caldari.
You'd be surprised how similar these two factions are. That's why I like the story and history of the conflict between Gallente and Caldari.
And while, corporations in the Caldari State do have somewhat of a war economy they have a lot more things they could do if they weren't at war.....but then again. The biggest drive to technological advancements is war itself.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2015.06.01 06:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Anyways, none of the Empires rely on the Caldari Empire for any equipment.
Oh, you must mean besides:
A) Sovereignty over Jita, the single largest trading hub in all of New Eden
B) The invention of Tier II Warships
C) The antidote to the Vitoc virus used to control slaves
D) The first race outside of the Jove to reverse-engineer the pod capsule
E) The largest and most efficient arms, ships and electronic trade in the cluster
F) Being hands down the most innovative and technology advanced of the four empires.
Quote:If the state didn't exist then that part of the Universe may finally know peace.
The same can be said about you and your entire kin.
Honestly, I'm not even trying to form a decent argument right now but if you want me to go full bore on this I am more than willing.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Confirmed Badguy Cera YC116--
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Aria Acropolis
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:51:00 -
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And that is how i met my brother Neon |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.01 22:55:00 -
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The issue here is that one side is not trying to understand the cultural identity of the other choosing to remain wilfully ignorant while the other is an communally focused group that zealously protects its cultural purity in a modernised war time society.
The assertion that the Caldari State would collapse in upon itself if it were not engaged in conflict with the Gallente Federation is an nonsensical to a rational mind as allowing the Intaki proper federal representation is to an Hawk aligned Senator. Each individual megacorporation is in its own right an governing state designed to encompass aspects of Caldari culture, provide for its people, and provide a goal for them.
The reason the Caldari oppose the Federation is because their own cultural ideals do not mesh with those of the Gallente not solely for the sake of conflict which I would assume at this point most Caldari are content to put behind them. In their mind all the Gallente have ever sought to do was impose their cultural privilege over the Caldari basically eroding the Caldari identity through cultural export on a massive scale.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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