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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:19:00 -
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Hey guys, Ripley Riley made a post asking what the average K/D and W/L ratios would be, and all of the answers were wrong, so I decided to explain.
The average K/D in Dust 514 would be around 0.98, why? Well its actually quite simple, every time someone kills, someone dies which would result in an average K/D of 1, but there are suicides as well, so it would be around 0.98, This counts for a lot of games where you have a K/D ratio. So if your K/D is higher than 0.98, then you are in the upper quartile of players, and if your K/D ratio is under 0.98 then you are in the lower quartile of players. The average W/L ratio is a little bit harder to work out as you might have more people on one of the teams in a match, meaning that more/less players will get a loss/win. But the average would be around 1.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:29:00 -
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This Logician INTP-A approves.
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:38:00 -
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that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers |
Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:40:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers
My math is perfect, you need to look at your logic.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:43:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers
You are saying that the average K/D ratio can be in the hundreds, people don't get kills without killing someone, every time you kill, someone dies. Furthermore what is 10,000,000 divided by 10,000,00? It is 1.
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:49:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers You are saying that the average K/D ratio can be in the hundreds, people don't get kills without killing someone, every time you kill, someone dies. Furthermore what is 10,000,000 divided by 10,000,00? It is 1.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:51:00 -
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You are oversimplifying that thread.
He is asking what a "mediocre" player's KDR might be.
A logi can have a .90 KDR and still be considered well above average given the fact that logi's aren't meant to kill.
At the same time, a sniper can have a KDR of 1.1 and be well bellow average given the nature of sniping and how low risk it is.
Its not about saying that all kills and all deaths are naturally going to average out to 1.
That is a basic math concept that you are trying to super impose on a much more complex issue.
It might be more relevant if the only purpose of the game was to kill each other, and all suits and weapons were exactly the same, but they aren't. Game modes and winning requirements differ, and as a result, KDR becomes a much more complex statistic.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:You are oversimplifying that thread.
He is asking what a "mediocre" player's KDR might be.
A logi can have a .90 KDR and still be considered well above average given the fact that logi's aren't meant to kill.
At the same time, a sniper can have a KDR of 1.1 and be well bellow average given the nature of sniping and how low risk it is.
Its not about saying that all kills and all deaths are naturally going to average out to 1.
That is a basic math concept that you are trying to super impose on a much more complex issue.
I understand that, BUT what I'm saying is the average K/D of a player. Anyway the average K/D of a role is impossible to calculate. That is why I gave him the average of all players.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:55:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers My math is perfect, you need to look at your logic.
I think he meant with ingame tracking its impossible to go under a 0 KDR.
Example
2 new academy toons.
1 toon kills the other toon 100 times.
Match ends and he has a 100 kdr.
The toon that died 100 times gets a 0 kdr because of how things are tracked.
The listed kdr average for the 2 toons is now 50.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:56:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:This Logician INTP-A approves.
This Logician INTP-T also approves
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:56:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers You are saying that the average K/D ratio can be in the hundreds, people don't get kills without killing someone, every time you kill, someone dies. Furthermore what is 10,000,000 divided by 10,000,00? It is 1. have you seen the leaderboards?
Yeh, what about them? Those guys who have 240,000 kills, they gave people 240,000 deaths, so you are an idiot to think that the average K/D is in the hundreds, just shut up you are making a fool of yourself.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:58:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:that is not what he was asking and that math is way off, you cant go under 0 for kd so anyone that has a kd thats higher then 1 would offset the numbers meaning the avg could be in the upper 100's with all the kd padding players such as redline snipers and certain tankers My math is perfect, you need to look at your logic. I think he meant with ingame tracking its impossible to go under a 0 KDR. Example 2 new academy toons. 1 toon kills the other toon 100 times. Match ends and he has a 100 kdr. The toon that died 100 times gets a 0 kdr because of how things are tracked. The listed kdr average for the 2 toons is now 50.
Yes but that is just how the game displays it. Meaning that my maths is correct.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:08:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:One Eyed King wrote:You are oversimplifying that thread.
He is asking what a "mediocre" player's KDR might be.
A logi can have a .90 KDR and still be considered well above average given the fact that logi's aren't meant to kill.
At the same time, a sniper can have a KDR of 1.1 and be well bellow average given the nature of sniping and how low risk it is.
Its not about saying that all kills and all deaths are naturally going to average out to 1.
That is a basic math concept that you are trying to super impose on a much more complex issue. I understand that, BUT what I'm saying is the average K/D of a player. Anyway the average K/D of a role is impossible to calculate. That is why I gave him the average of all players.
Its not impossible if someone, like maybe say Rattati, combed through his data, and gave a list of the KDRs for tiers and races over a period of time.
Which he did.
Edit:
It was sorted by Haerr for by KDR for ease of reading here.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:09:00 -
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"cough cough" prick who thinks hes a know it all "cough cough"
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