DUST Search - The Buff to Commandos, Logi's

Thokk Nightshade wrote:

Oceltot Mortalis wrote:

Has there been any thought to reworking the bonuses of the Commando? or adding 1 more bonus?
I've been toying around with the idea of giving the Commando a +10% Light Weapon Ammo per level.
At first, seeing a 10% bonus always looks like a huge bonus, but that's only like 6 plasma cannon shots.
Being a lone wolf fit like the commando and killing people as much as I do, I end up dying a lot to the sound of clicking weapons. It feels like a good fit for a support and/or suppression role like the Commando is.

On a Plasma Cannon it's one thing. On a RR or a CR, giving 50% more ammo at level 5 is pushing them into ridiculous territory. I have a Calmando fit with RR/CR. If this was put in place I could almost take my nanohives off the suit completely.

If we said a 5% per level on weapons with over 100 rounds carried and a 10% per level on weapons under 100 rounds carried (Sniper, MD, Plasma Cannon, etc), there could be a comprimise made I believe.

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Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 182	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:11:00 - [1] - Quote Link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 Very much needed thank you for that ! I see my Assault suit will seem to lose some armor, but my Proto Commando Will be viable. Thanks o7 I'm all for this. I get to finally utilize my Commando even more ! Edit: it won't lose Any Armor, it will lose its speed..... I'm still all for this o7
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 Very much needed thank you for that ! I see my Assault suit will seem to lose some armor, but my Proto Commando Will be viable. Thanks o7 I'm all for this. I get to finally utilize my Commando even more ! CCP just keeps watching that respec money rollin in lol, i'm excited for these changes though. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:15:00 - [3] - Quote I'm fine with the commando getting a buff. Still have no idea why the Logi needs a buff which will push into back into slayer country. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:23:00 - [4] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 Very much needed thank you for that ! I see my Assault suit will seem to lose some armor, but my Proto Commando Will be viable. Thanks o7 I'm all for this. I get to finally utilize my Commando even more ! CCP just keeps watching that respec money rollin in lol, i'm excited for these changes though. Its a good thing I'm True and not a FOTM chasers and already have it Proto ! ;D and I even have the Apex Commando
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.05.27 18:27:00 - [5] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I'm fine with the commando getting a buff. Still have no idea why the Logi needs a buff which will push into back into slayer country. Consistency's sake. I believe rattati said something about making it necessary to fill equipment slots on logis Aloha snackbar
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 532	Posted - 2015.05.27 19:26:00 - [6] - Quote My usual corp sqaud involves lots of Commandos and me as the logibro. We already wreck, I'm curious to see how things turn out. [58.4m SP - Next skill: Ion Pistol Prof. 3] Sazu + Crazy Cat Lady + Regnier Feros = OP squad
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2015.05.27 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote I wish they could restrict a Recpec :/ now everyone will have a commando
Moochie Cricket The Templis Dragonaurs 1	Posted - 2015.05.27 20:29:00 - [8] - Quote These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. FOR THE STATE
Aramis Madrigal 0uter.Heaven 420	Posted - 2015.05.27 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I'm fine with the commando getting a buff. Still have no idea why the Logi needs a buff which will push into back into slayer country. All of the logi's should have something to recommend them as logi/slayers. The min and cal slot layout is very amenable to a slayer build. The amarr gets a side arm and the gal has scans.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 848	Posted - 2015.05.27 23:16:00 - [10] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. Please tell me you are joking. horrible shield regen and an 8 second delay ON THARTHAT horrible regen. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.

Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 628	Posted - 2015.05.27 23:19:00 - [11] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 Very much needed thank you for that ! I see my Assault suit will seem to lose some armor, but my Proto Commando Will be viable. Thanks o7 I'm all for this. I get to finally utilize my Commando even more ! CCP just keeps watching that respec money rollin in lol, i'm excited for these changes though. Its a good thing I'm True and not a FOTM chasers and already have it Proto ! ;D and I even have the Apex Commando You're not True, you're Apocalyptic Destroyerr. We want cake and tea.
Moochie Cricket The Templis Dragonaurs 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 00:03:00 - [12] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. Please tell me you are joking. horrible shield regen and an 8 second delay ON THARTHAT horrible regen. It's one of my goto suits in PC. Triple damage mods and proficiency 5 in RR murders everything you point it at. FOR THE STATE
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 851	Posted - 2015.05.28 00:57:00 - [13] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. Please tell me you are joking. horrible shield regen and an 8 second delay ON THARTHAT horrible regen. It's one of my goto suits in PC. Triple damage mods and proficiency 5 in RR murders everything you point it at. I have prof 5 RR and run double damage mods on my adv. I am fine until more than 1 person is around and I have to try amd find cover to regenerate. I agree the killing power is nasty but survivability needs some love. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 01:34:00 - [14] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. Please tell me you are joking. horrible shield regen and an 8 second delay ON THARTHAT horrible regen. It's one of my goto suits in PC. Triple damage mods and proficiency 5 in RR murders everything you point it at. Meanwhile i can take HMG bullets in the face and still be able to kill the guy wielding it. Ah.. not gonna happen anytime soon after assault nerf. About OP. Nerfing one thing to buff another is always bad. It will lead to more buffs and nerfs. Broken balance cycle. Ps. This will hurt newbros that worked for their first suits. We will move on, we'll use any suit. But they aren't us (us = high end vet) Caldari Loyalist Uka ki onuoto Kirjuun. Nei ya arekaini saaja hui ka Heiian! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10	Posted - 2015.05.28 01:49:00 - [15] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 Very much needed thank you for that ! I see my Assault suit will seem to lose some armor, but my Proto Commando Will be viable. Thanks o7 I'm all for this. I get to finally utilize my Commando even more ! CCP just keeps watching that respec money rollin in lol, i'm excited for these changes though. Its a good thing I'm True and not a FOTM chasers and already have it Proto ! ;D and I even have the Apex Commando You're not True, you're Apocalyptic Destroyerr. well known alt? Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.05.28 01:54:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: You're not True, you're Apocalyptic Destroyerr. well known alt?[/quote] He wishes. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 185	Posted - 2015.05.28 02:32:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: You're not True, you're Apocalyptic Destroyerr. well known alt? He wishes.[/quote] Smh -__- you guys know what I meant.
Oceltot Mortalis 85	Posted - 2015.06.22 21:34:00 - [18] - Quote Has there been any thought to reworking the bonuses of the Commando? or adding 1 more bonus? I've been toying around with the idea of giving the Commando a +10% Light Weapon Ammo per level. At first, seeing a 10% bonus always looks like a huge bonus, but that's only like 6 plasma cannon shots. Being a lone wolf fit like the commando and killing people as much as I do, I end up dying a lot to the sound of clicking weapons. It feels like a good fit for a support and/or suppression role like the Commando is. Aspiring Forum Warrior. Commando Advocate / Gallente Advocate / Legion Advocate / Avocado Advocate
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.22 22:30:00 - [19] - Quote I like how some people cry "respec" or that CCP will be banking on that... Some people have enough SP to not need a respec, or have one already. Achura Bloodline Loyalist of the State Join Caldari FW
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 860	Posted - 2015.06.22 23:03:00 - [20] - Quote I have no problem with logis and commandos being buffed but I feel logis should have had a HP buff instead of speed. Speed is more useful in a lot of situations rather than raw HP and this could cause a problem. Wanna play eve?

VAHZZ Liquid.Hound 3	Posted - 2015.06.22 23:28:00 - [21] - Quote I wish they would give me a free respec again...or somebody give me a 20 usd psn card...I am in dying need of a respec, not for commandos or logis, but for assault and scout, i will go against the grain! GÖ¢ Soon, we shall meet again, in a galaxy far, far away. GÖ¢ *Scouts United*
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 909	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:14:00 - [22] - Quote Oceltot Mortalis wrote: Has there been any thought to reworking the bonuses of the Commando? or adding 1 more bonus? I've been toying around with the idea of giving the Commando a +10% Light Weapon Ammo per level. At first, seeing a 10% bonus always looks like a huge bonus, but that's only like 6 plasma cannon shots. Being a lone wolf fit like the commando and killing people as much as I do, I end up dying a lot to the sound of clicking weapons. It feels like a good fit for a support and/or suppression role like the Commando is. On a Plasma Cannon it's one thing. On a RR or a CR, giving 50% more ammo at level 5 is pushing them into ridiculous territory. I have a Calmando fit with RR/CR. If this was put in place I could almost take my nanohives off the suit completely. If we said a 5% per level on weapons with over 100 rounds carried and a 10% per level on weapons under 100 rounds carried (Sniper, MD, Plasma Cannon, etc), there could be a comprimise made I believe. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Oceltot Mortalis 86	Posted - 2015.06.23 00:27:00 - [23] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Oceltot Mortalis wrote: Has there been any thought to reworking the bonuses of the Commando? or adding 1 more bonus? I've been toying around with the idea of giving the Commando a +10% Light Weapon Ammo per level. At first, seeing a 10% bonus always looks like a huge bonus, but that's only like 6 plasma cannon shots. Being a lone wolf fit like the commando and killing people as much as I do, I end up dying a lot to the sound of clicking weapons. It feels like a good fit for a support and/or suppression role like the Commando is. On a Plasma Cannon it's one thing. On a RR or a CR, giving 50% more ammo at level 5 is pushing them into ridiculous territory. I have a Calmando fit with RR/CR. If this was put in place I could almost take my nanohives off the suit completely. If we said a 5% per level on weapons with over 100 rounds carried and a 10% per level on weapons under 100 rounds carried (Sniper, MD, Plasma Cannon, etc), there could be a comprimise made I believe. You say ridiculous, but its not like you can shoot more than one bullet at a time. Suppressive fire consumes ammo (obviously) and I would venture to guess that about 30 percent of the shots I fire, from PLC and AR/LR/SCR are suppressive with the commando. This would open up the equipment slot for diversity outside the nanohives that I almost exclusively carry with my commando. I personally would forfeit the damage bonus to have this if we had equal slots as the Assault for damage mods. Aspiring Forum Warrior. Commando Advocate / Gallente Advocate / Legion Advocate / Avocado Advocate
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 804	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:02:00 - [24] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: These changes are unneeded for the caldari commando, that thing is a beast already. Please tell me you are joking. horrible shield regen and an 8 second delay ON THARTHAT horrible regen. Some people just have no idea how mechanics work or how good things are. When someone says something like Cal Commando is beast or Cal Logi is the greatest or Cal Assault is awesome, you already know they are completely pants on head ******** when it comes to balance. You can try to inform them, but they will probably just start bitching about CCP Gallente Bias or how great the magsec is or some dumb conspiracy theory about how hit detection for toxin SMGs is better than for normal SMGs. People are insane.


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