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Shady Assassin
Nyain San
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Posted - 2015.05.26 15:39:00 -
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Reserve your APEX's today! I am undecided on the prices yet, however, I will start probably at 100M+. Why?
APEX cost + Losses (usually 1-5 suits a game - 600k per game is fair or enemy Jihad LAV ramming my ADV HAV) + time invested (Usually 10mins waits for deployment (Gallente and Minmatar) play some FW and make my life easier guys :/. I run 1 squad most of the time for Gallente and Minmatar because it is rare to have a full Q-Sync on Amarr and Caldari to verse you nowadays.
I have Lv. 10 Caldari and Amarr Loyalty & Lv. 9 Gallente and Minmatar. I gain 1977 (Lv.10) and 1842 (Lv.9).
Lv.10 - 51 games (600k x 51 = 30,600,000 ISK loss)
Lv. 9 - 55 games (600k x 55 = 33,000,000 ISK loss)
APEX cost - 10,000,000 ISK
Gallente & Minmatar APEX ONLY***
Time loss due to deployment - 200k per game is fair (10 minute wait for deployment, sometimes longer)
56-61 FW (Gall and Minn) 11,200,000 - 12,200,000 ISK
Losses due to Q-Sync on hostile team
Rare on Gallente & Minmatar, usually 10-20% of the time.
Common on Caldari and Amarr, usually 40-60% of the time.
369 LP awarded due to loss* only (Gall & Minn)
395 LP awarded due to loss* only (Cal & Amarr)
The ISK I base on the loss is simple.. take a simple Pub (300K ISK average) I lose at most
Gal & Minn - 5-10 FW battles 1,500,000 ISK - 3,000,000 ISK
Cal & Amarr - 15-25 FW battles 4,500,000 ISK - 7,500,000 ISK
Public ISK loss
56-61 Gall and Minn battles, I lose out on 16,800,000 - 18,300,000
70-80 Cal & Amarr battles, the losses are 21,000,000 - 24,000,000
Final Calculations
Gall and Minn APEX
10,000,000 (BPO) + 30,600,000 (Assets Lost) + 2,250,000 (Defeats) + 11,700,000 (Wait Times) + 17,550,000 (Pub ISK loss due to NO ISK FW payouts) + 30,000,000 (My profit from the deal)
Cal & Amarr APEX
10,000,000 (BPO) + 33,000,000 (Assets Lost) + 6,000,000 (Defeats) + 22,500,000 (Pub ISK loss due to NO ISK FW payouts) +30,000,000 (My profit from the deal) + 5,000,000 (Yes, there are wait times, believe it or not, but they are not devastating like the Gall and Minn FW ones)
I will be updating the post for the deals (If there are any buyers :) Thank you and have a good day!)
Hear That? that's the sound of.... Nova Knifes o_o
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:10:00 -
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Shady Assassin? More like shady businessman 
Apex suit not worth 100 million isk...would take at best 700 matches or so x 10-15 minutes each (116 hours) to recoup the cost of the APEX suit from you.
So being as you can get about 500-1250LP for doing terrible in FW, one can reason that at 500LP per match it would take 200 matches, 15 minutes each is 3,000 minutes divided by 60 minutes is 50 hours.
So someone could spend 10 million ISK and 100k LP in 40% of the time it would take them to recoup the cost of an APEX suit through you.
So take a walk, Nyan boy. Your math is faulty, your stance is overdramatic and I hear the whambulance a coming, I'll have them stop through fatburger and you can get yourself a double cheese whamburger and french cries for $2.95  
Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
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Shady Assassin
Nyain San
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:34:00 -
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Mike, explain where my math is "faulty". I took the average ISK
Example) 70-80 Cal & Amarr battles, the losses are 21,000,000 - 24,000,000
I stated that I wanted to obtain 22,500,000. which is in the between.
56-61 Gall and Minn battles, I lose out on 16,800,000 - 18,300,000
I stated that my price on this one is 17,550,000. which also is in the between of the two.
Gal & Minn - 5-10 FW battles 1,500,000 ISK - 3,000,000 ISK
2,250,000
Cal & Amarr - 15-25 FW battles 4,500,000 ISK - 7,500,000 ISK
6,000,000
Asset loss is 600,000 per game.
51x for the Amarr & Caldari
is still 30,600,000
55x for the Minn & Gallente
is still 33,000,000
So please, think before you speak Mike? My math is not faulty, please check it out before you comment. Have a good day o/
"Stop using a turbo controller on your Assault HMG & "Toxin" SMG Shady!" -Jacob Firebolt from GAM
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Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You.
Proficiency V.
227
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:53:00 -
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I'll sell APEX @ 20M per suit 
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.26 17:15:00 -
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Lol you're counting your loses to the price?
That's not how it works. Not in such way.
Apex is worth around 50m isk.
Should cost even less when somebody can qsync and farm 100k lp in such a short time.
Caldari Loyalist
Uka ki onuoto Kirjuun. Nei ya arekaini saaja hui ka Heiian!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu
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Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
227
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:33:00 -
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*smh* I'm sorry, I cannot in good faith even begin to think that this is close to a good deal. Your effort in getting R10 means nothing to me, nor will it to anyone else. At your price, I could just get into FW myself and earn this BPO.
Now that I think about it, I could actually pop a few bucks into the game, get 3 Gal boosters, and get it way faster/cheaper as well. There are no isk boosters, and I'm constantly losing isk. No deal.
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2015.05.26 18:47:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Lol you're counting your loses to the price?
That's not how it works. Not in such way.
Apex is worth around 50m isk.
Should cost even less when somebody can qsync and farm 100k lp in such a short time.
50m for that grind, no way. I'd say about 80m is a fair price for both parties.
Petition to ban the trainyard map.
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