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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:20:00 -
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I was just in my randomly rolled Amarr Scout with a laser rifle and a magsec (context) and doing really well for some reason.
I think my best run was 19/6, using a standard suit with a terrible fitting because it was literally randomly generated. The majority of those kills were with the magsec
I have like 0 skills in them, and I think I might dump 2.5m just to see what they're like with a sidearm damage mod at proto. It is basically a long-range breach SMG with tighter spread that has a slightly easier time with shields. The only downside being the tiny charge up before firing that I barely noticed, and of course not as much damage to armor.
They used to be more common when first introduced, but did the +15% to armor change for minmatar weapons really make it absolete
Don't get me wrong, I love the breach SMG as much as the next guy, but the range on the magsec seems to make it more versatile and worth it to ADS with.
Opinions?
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:26:00 -
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Even the Milita one packs a punch.
Some people say the weapons kicks = uhhhh NOT TRUE.
I can melt and scout and a heavy instantly.
Also why doesnt the weapon have a Reflex sight and A SILENCER = WHY!!!
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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castba
Rogue Instincts
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:31:00 -
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Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:32:00 -
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castba wrote:Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately
^
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:35:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:castba wrote:Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately ^
Yeah, I tried it. Most often, might as well have been shining a flashlight at people.
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Makuta Miserix
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:39:00 -
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It's not that bad of a weapon. It's just not as reliable as the other sidearms.
I only have it on 1 or 2 fits. SMG's, ScP's, and BP's are on the others with the occasional Flaylock Pistol.
Proud supporter of Scouts.
- Makuta Miserix the Assault/Logi part time Scout.
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DanielCM
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:40:00 -
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Was thinking the same myself. Got an officer Magsec from the lab the other day (sorry can't remember the name) the stats on that thing look mighty.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:57:00 -
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Because we all have boundless breach SMG's for that with no charge up.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:02:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Because we all have boundless breach SMG's for that with no charge up.
Oh yes. Yes, we do.
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:34:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I was just in my randomly rolled Amarr Scout with a laser rifle and a magsec ( context) and doing really well for some reason. I think my best run was 19/6, using a standard suit with a terrible fitting because it was literally randomly generated. The majority of those kills were with the magsec I have like 0 skills in them, and I think I might dump 2.5m just to see what they're like with a sidearm damage mod at proto. It is basically a long-range breach SMG with tighter spread that has a slightly easier time with shields. The only downside being the tiny charge up before firing that I barely noticed, and of course not as much damage to armor. They used to be more common when first introduced, but did the +15% to armor change for minmatar weapons really make it absolete Don't get me wrong, I love the breach SMG as much as the next guy, but the range on the magsec seems to make it more versatile and worth it to ADS with. Opinions?
Why you open pandora's box
now everyone will be using a min assault, assault scrambler rifle, magsec SMG and jumping 20m in the air....ULTIMATE FoTM BAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!! 
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jordy mack
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:11:00 -
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wats the damge profile?
it seems to shake alot after 10 or so shots.
i'm comparing breach smg and magsec atm, trying to decide which i like better.
Less QQ more PewPew
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castba
Rogue Instincts
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:26:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:wats the damge profile?
it seems to shake alot after 10 or so shots.
i'm comparing breach smg and magsec atm, trying to decide which i like better.
-10/+10 for the magsec.
-15/+15 for the smg
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:27:00 -
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castba wrote:Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately
I thought I was going crazy, so the no damage thing is something others have experienced as well?
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 04:31:00 -
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For the most part I think it's a great weapon. Some people say the min smg is better. I dunno. I think it's a matter of personal opinion
Shields, the silent killer.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.26 07:53:00 -
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I love holding down R1 with my charge to fire weapon and getting laughed at because muh bullets aren't coming out. 
Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 07:56:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:castba wrote:Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately I thought I was going crazy, so the no damage thing is something others have experienced as well?
Yeah... It's a common thing on rail weaponry -- especially this thing.
The spool time is sometimes a detriment when you're dealing with a surprise CQC encounter, or trying to finish someone off mid range.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.05.26 08:04:00 -
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Switching to magsec and grabbing trigger too fast causes it to not fire at all.
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nelo kazuma
Ecce Initio RLC.
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Posted - 2015.05.26 08:19:00 -
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I got it lvl 5 proficiency as well awesome weap :) wish it had rr scope though
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.05.26 08:32:00 -
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Its more situational. I use it with my caldari assault fits when i know i'm going to be in relative cqc ahead of time, and i cant depend on my RR because of its kick. Like you probably did with your amarr scout/laser rifle. Where you have second or two to realize the enemy is coming in closer than you would be comfortable with. Its more defensive IMO than offensive.
Its not very good as an emergency sidearm, which is what most people use them for. In an emergency cqc , the smg is still king.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.26 09:46:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:castba wrote:Love the magsec... when it works.
The vast majority of the time, my magsec rounds do no damage. Just too unreliable unfortunately I thought I was going crazy, so the no damage thing is something others have experienced as well? Yeah... It's a common thing on rail weaponry -- especially this thing. The spool time is sometimes a detriment when you're dealing with a surprise CQC encounter, or trying to finish someone off mid range.
It doesn't happen with the RR for me, just the magsec, where I clearly fire bullets and they get a blue marker but yield no damage. The charge up doesn't hurt me that much as its more of a flanking sidearm rather than a backup.
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