DUST Search - What do you think is the best scout for skirm/PC?

Luna McDuffing wrote:

It depends what you want to do. If you are more concerned in killing people then the gallente is better at that. Yes, the min and its nova knife are awesome but, it is better suited for a 1 vs 1 or rather sneak attack then off to something else. The gallente is like a light assault. On the other hand if you are more concerned in capturing objective and changing the battle map the the minmatar scout wins hands down. Put a link on that scout and you will see for yourself.

What i do is observe the map. I notice where the enemy is compared to where the blueberries are. I then identify the bottle neck. You see, what happens is that people get stuck trying to conquer or defend a single objective. Even when they are getting kill left and right they keep running right in. This is where you as a scout or even better as the min scout come in. You run around the problem and you strategically place a link away from the bottle neck. You take out the 1 guy defending that lonesome objective and then you speed hack it. You then move on to something else.

In summary here is the game plan by the numbers.

#1 identify area where troops are needed or need to move away from.
#2 move to say area via cover.
#3 place a link near by to entice the troops to move in.
#4 evaluate the defenses of the objective. Too heavily defended move on. Easily taken go for the kill.
#5 hack the CRU first if there are any. Helps with moving the troops
#6 hack the objective
#7 move on to something else. Your job is done you don't need to linger.

What makes the min scout good at this is that it moves fast and hacks fast. That speed hacking makes all the difference.

Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.

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YUUKI TERUMI 0uter.Heaven 5	Posted - 2015.05.25 06:30:00 - [1] - Quote I have both gallente and minmatar scouts and I was wondering which one (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar) was the best for skirmish and PC.... Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 885	Posted - 2015.05.25 06:34:00 - [2] - Quote Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. No Skill Required
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 06:34:00 - [3] - Quote YUUKI TERUMI wrote: I have both gallente and minmatar scouts and I was wondering which one (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar) was the best for skirmish and PC.... Gallente scout is the best scout for pc and pubs. Im just a glorified blueberry
YUUKI TERUMI 0uter.Heaven 5	Posted - 2015.05.25 06:37:00 - [4] - Quote Well, min assault is a good choice to assault an obj but it doesnt have two equipent slots... thats why I usually dont run it in skirm.... Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.
Oswald Rehnquist 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 06:50:00 - [5] - Quote Min or Gal scouts Min scout is more role focused, the suits overall stats dealing with movement plus hacking is useful Gal scout has the stealth and the highly valued low slots, thus it has more versatility than the Min Below 28 dB
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 481	Posted - 2015.05.25 07:29:00 - [6] - Quote Min Scout is quite good, especially for glitching hit detection and throwing RE;s at the feet of heavies. BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 07:33:00 - [7] - Quote Not the Amarr scout (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Otrera Goddess Nos Nothi 354	Posted - 2015.05.25 07:33:00 - [8] - Quote Hands down the gal scout is the best and most versatile suit to use.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 10:23:00 - [9] - Quote I love the MinScout in skirmish. It just rakes in the WP with those objective/installation hacks. :(
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.25 13:00:00 - [10] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/This+was+actually+nice+_ffe1c8354afe9b8251e90b420f97d8a7.png "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game 271	Posted - 2015.05.25 14:40:00 - [11] - Quote How can you compare skirmish to PC? Creator of "The last objective rule" in FW . Just another scrub in a D1ck corp.
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 937	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:01:00 - [12] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? Let's be real, they're the same thing. Literally the same exact thing. One is just laggier I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:14:00 - [13] - Quote If you can spawn in early, Minmatar Scout for the initial hacks and Uplink. After that, Gallente Scout.
The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game 271	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:19:00 - [14] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? Let's be real, they're the same thing. Literally the same exact thing. One is just laggier Meh, i ve always played wrong then, i ve never played a skirmish on 1 objective but i have to move, when you brawl in a PC city map you usually attack/defend the same point for a whole match. Gal scout is the best in skirmish but if you fight in a city map i will say caldari scout cuz of the blue shields... H0riz0n Unlimit - Nexus Balusa Horizon -> RND -> I.H. -> DMG! . Loyal till the end.
VAHZZ 2	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:21:00 - [15] - Quote Ganja's are the suits you want to use, they are the OG. ** the Minja, Ganja is king of scouts. Bruh**
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 148	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:28:00 - [16] - Quote Can ya'll tell me why the Amarr is considered a bad scout before I skill into it? CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Eros Adonai Corrosive Synergy No Context 359	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:28:00 - [17] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Ganja's are the suits you want to use, they are the OG. ** the Minja, Ganja is king of scouts. Quite Director - Corrosive Synergy**
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.25 15:32:00 - [18] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: Can ya'll tell me why the Amarr is considered a bad scout before I skill into it? Slower than Minmatar Assault, Bad range, so you can't take advantage of your precision, Range Extenders suck in general, Profile. I assume these are the top reasons, however, with the proper builds, you can have low profiles, decent speed, and an excellent precision. The range Extender situation is pretty bad. With one complex Extender, you get around 7m more range, then it starts going downhill because of the penalty, so yes, it's bad.
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 2	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:13:00 - [19] - Quote Golden Day wrote: YUUKI TERUMI wrote: I have both gallente and minmatar scouts and I was wondering which one (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar) was the best for skirmish and PC.... Gallente scout is the best scout for pc and pubs. I bed to differ. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
YUUKI TERUMI 0uter.Heaven 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:42:00 - [20] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? D4GG3R's right Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.

Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 193	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:44:00 - [21] - Quote It depends what you want to do. If you are more concerned in killing people then the gallente is better at that. Yes, the min and its nova knife are awesome but, it is better suited for a 1 vs 1 or rather sneak attack then off to something else. The gallente is like a light assault. On the other hand if you are more concerned in capturing objective and changing the battle map the the minmatar scout wins hands down. Put a link on that scout and you will see for yourself. What i do is observe the map. I notice where the enemy is compared to where the blueberries are. I then identify the bottle neck. You see, what happens is that people get stuck trying to conquer or defend a single objective. Even when they are getting kill left and right they keep running right in. This is where you as a scout or even better as the min scout come in. You run around the problem and you strategically place a link away from the bottle neck. You take out the 1 guy defending that lonesome objective and then you speed hack it. You then move on to something else. In summary here is the game plan by the numbers. #1 identify area where troops are needed or need to move away from. #2 move to say area via cover. #3 place a link near by to entice the troops to move in. #4 evaluate the defenses of the objective. Too heavily defended move on. Easily taken go for the kill. #5 hack the CRU first if there are any. Helps with moving the troops #6 hack the objective #7 move on to something else. Your job is done you don't need to linger. What makes the min scout good at this is that it moves fast and hacks fast. That speed hacking makes all the difference.
YUUKI TERUMI 0uter.Heaven 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:45:00 - [22] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: D4GG3R wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? Let's be real, they're the same thing. Literally the same exact thing. One is just laggier Meh, i ve always played wrong then, i ve never played a skirmish on 1 objective but i have to move, when you brawl in a PC city map you usually attack/defend the same point for a whole match. Gal scout is the best in skirmish but if you fight in a city map i will say caldari scout cuz of the blue shields... Well, Galscout is the best for pc in the city because it can scan very well, you can tank it enough to face a heavy without dying and it has a low profile. Galscout+REs in a pc fight = heavies down Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.
YUUKI TERUMI 0uter.Heaven 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:46:00 - [23] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: It depends what you want to do. If you are more concerned in killing people then the gallente is better at that. Yes, the min and its nova knife are awesome but, it is better suited for a 1 vs 1 or rather sneak attack then off to something else. The gallente is like a light assault. On the other hand if you are more concerned in capturing objective and changing the battle map the the minmatar scout wins hands down. Put a link on that scout and you will see for yourself. What i do is observe the map. I notice where the enemy is compared to where the blueberries are. I then identify the bottle neck. You see, what happens is that people get stuck trying to conquer or defend a single objective. Even when they are getting kill left and right they keep running right in. This is where you as a scout or even better as the min scout come in. You run around the problem and you strategically place a link away from the bottle neck. You take out the 1 guy defending that lonesome objective and then you speed hack it. You then move on to something else. In summary here is the game plan by the numbers. #1 identify area where troops are needed or need to move away from. #2 move to say area via cover. #3 place a link near by to entice the troops to move in. #4 evaluate the defenses of the objective. Too heavily defended move on. Easily taken go for the kill. #5 hack the CRU first if there are any. Helps with moving the troops #6 hack the objective #7 move on to something else. Your job is done you don't need to linger. What makes the min scout good at this is that it moves fast and hacks fast. That speed hacking makes all the difference. Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 941	Posted - 2015.05.25 16:54:00 - [24] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: D4GG3R wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? Let's be real, they're the same thing. Literally the same exact thing. One is just laggier Meh, i ve always played wrong then, i ve never played a skirmish on 1 objective but i have to move, when you brawl in a PC city map you usually attack/defend the same point for a whole match. Gal scout is the best in skirmish but if you fight in a city map i will say caldari scout cuz of the blue shields... I think that depends on the role you are filling in the battle. You are usually a heavy if I'm not mistaken so typically are fighting over that undercover letter. I usually get stuck in the pocket or Am getting sent all over the map. Different play styles perceive game modes differently :) I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 18:30:00 - [25] - Quote Minmatar in skirmish, Gallente in PC. Hacking speed is far more important than Ewar stats, but you'll have to sacrifice in PC to prevent yourself from being perma-scanned by tryhards. Some details can be ignored
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 942	Posted - 2015.05.25 18:49:00 - [26] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar in skirmish, Gallente in PC. Hacking speed is far more important than Ewar stats, but you'll have to sacrifice in PC to prevent yourself from being perma-scanned by tryhards. Ewar is dead. I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.25 18:52:00 - [27] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. ^ This. At the moment, Scouts are outclassed in CQC maps - especially PC - by Min Assaults with Shotguns. It's very frustrating, and I can't wait for the movement values for Assaults and Logis to get fixed. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game 273	Posted - 2015.05.25 18:55:00 - [28] - Quote YUUKI TERUMI wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: D4GG3R wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: How can you compare skirmish to PC? Let's be real, they're the same thing. Literally the same exact thing. One is just laggier Meh, i ve always played wrong then, i ve never played a skirmish on 1 objective but i have to move, when you brawl in a PC city map you usually attack/defend the same point for a whole match. Gal scout is the best in skirmish but if you fight in a city map i will say caldari scout cuz of the blue shields... Well, Galscout is the best for pc in the city because it can scan very well, you can tank it enough to face a heavy without dying and it has a low profile. Galscout+REs in a pc fight = heavies down Amarr can scan, gal can damp, but invisible means one shotted, permascanned means no RE since you cant throw them anymore at 15 metres H0riz0n Unlimit - Nexus Balusa Horizon -> RND -> I.H. -> DMG! . Loyal till the end.
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 19:01:00 - [29] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. No its not. Thats the stupidest load out. Now I'll see more pricks using that stupid min assault with shotgun. Its a min assault so its supposed to be slow not fast like a ******* scout. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 942	Posted - 2015.05.25 19:05:00 - [30] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. No its not. Thats the stupidest load out. Now I'll see more pricks using that stupid min assault with shotgun. Its a min assault so its supposed to be slow not fast like a ******* scout. The only place the Min Assault outclasses a Gal scout is on the rings map (as long as you play intelligent). Every other map you can outmaneuver any suit and get behind it with a gal scout. Two shots later it's game over. I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs

Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.25 19:12:00 - [31] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Min assault with shotgun is the correct answer. No its not. Thats the stupidest load out. Now I'll see more pricks using that stupid min assault with shotgun. Its a min assault so its supposed to be slow not fast like a ******* scout. Have you been in any PC recently? I've seen 50% of a team running Min Assaults with Shotguns before; just yesterday, in fact. It has a lot of HP, high speed , it can have a decent profile, and it doesn't even need a Cloak in the city maps. It doesn't even matter if it gets scanned. You know it's coming, but there's nothing you can do about it. You can't fight it at range because it lurks in the crevices of city maps, and it has enough HP to tank most Alpha damage you can do. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 19:39:00 - [32] - Quote Nope Ive only been in one PC battle and that was Keq vs 843. A long time ago. LoL. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!


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"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.