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Cruxio Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 14	Posted - 2015.05.25 00:10:00 - [1] - Quote Somebody told me that caldari dropships are not viable. I don't know if he is right or not but I like to either prove him wrong or take the challenge. I am not a dropship expert or rich, I fully expect this to be a rather expensive / frustrating venture. I have 13.5 mill sp, on another toon which I plan to focus on. How should I allocate my sp? Any recommended fits? And as always, thank you for your time and knowledge.
Nachos Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros 163	Posted - 2015.05.25 00:33:00 - [2] - Quote don't fly dropships as a newbro. They are hard to learn how to fly, expensive if you want to kill things with them and the AV weaponry right now (swarms) are OP. Skill into tanks if you want to be a KD *** dropships are a no-no for new-bro** xavier zor xavier zor
jordy mack WarRavens 483	Posted - 2015.05.25 00:45:00 - [3] - Quote myrons are hard coz of the delay after activating the shield hardeners. practice in a gorgon, i fit a repper, hardner, scanner and cru. good allround support ship that u can bump into things without catching fire. o7 g'luck Less QQ more PewPew
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 00:53:00 - [4] - Quote Myron is amazing. Works very well with 2 missile gunners. 2 x heavy basic shield extenders 1 x Basic Shield Hardener 1 x basic scanner Complex PG upgrade Complex CpU Upgrade 2 x MT-1 Missile Launchers I specialize in plasma cannons. I also hate snipers with a passion.
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 2	Posted - 2015.05.25 00:57:00 - [5] - Quote Don't hit things, collision damage for shield dropships is quite ridiculous. Armor dropships can survive hitting many things, a shield dropship will be lucky to survive a graze. Shield regen is fast but can be delayed by damage unlike their armor counter parts, running when hit is very important, fit an afterburner. Don't worry about fitting armor in your lows, as a rule with shield vehicles you need shields to survive and you need extra fitting mods in the lows to get those shields. Don't overstay your welcome. Try to always be a moving target and have some altitude to trade for speed. Don't be surised when invisible av starts hitting you from everywhere. Try and learn. Dropships are always more fun with friends, bring some along. Good luck, fly safe o7 Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 626	Posted - 2015.05.25 01:48:00 - [6] - Quote Nachos wrote: don't fly dropships as a newbro. They are hard to learn how to fly, expensive if you want to kill things with them and the AV weaponry right now (swarms) are OP. Skill into tanks if you want to be a KD *** dropships are a no-no for new-bro** I wouldn't say AV is OP. It's just the fact we've got Proto AV balanced for Proto tanks but only standard dropships and LAV's. We want cake and tea.
Nachos Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros 164	Posted - 2015.05.25 01:52:00 - [7] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Nachos wrote: don't fly dropships as a newbro. They are hard to learn how to fly, expensive if you want to kill things with them and the AV weaponry right now (swarms) are OP. Skill into tanks if you want to be a KD *** dropships are a no-no for new-bro** I wouldn't say AV is OP. It's just the fact we've got Proto AV balanced for Proto tanks but only standard dropships and LAV's. Swarms are overpowering vs Dropships. xavier zor xavier zor
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.05.25 02:02:00 - [8] - Quote Cruxio wrote: Somebody told me that caldari dropships are not viable. I don't know if he is right or not but I like to either prove him wrong or take the challenge. I am not a dropship expert or rich, I fully expect this to be a rather expensive / frustrating venture. I have 13.5 mill sp, on another toon which I plan to focus on. How should I allocate my sp? Any recommended fits? And as always, thank you for your time and knowledge. Friendly advice: for that total SP you got, don't go dropshipping yet. You need many more things before. Just have a cheap basic DS as a lift to get to high positions. On the main topic, yes caldari dropships are viable yet they are quite not as durable. And they are very vulnerable to ramming... Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 824	Posted - 2015.05.25 02:06:00 - [9] - Quote Nachos wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Nachos wrote: don't fly dropships as a newbro. They are hard to learn how to fly, expensive if you want to kill things with them and the AV weaponry right now (swarms) are OP. Skill into tanks if you want to be a KD *** dropships are a no-no for new-bro** I wouldn't say AV is OP. It's just the fact we've got Proto AV balanced for Proto tanks but only standard dropships and LAV's. Swarms are overpowering vs Dropships. No they aren't. I have gotten a dropship through an entire match with AV shooting at me when in range, others have too. They aren't designed to take concentrated fire for too long, they are dropships, not gunships.
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 6	Posted - 2015.05.25 02:12:00 - [10] - Quote I don't see why players might think myrons are any harder to use than grimsnes... grimsnesi? They just handle slightly differently. I have whatever the vehicle shield recharge delay skill is maxed out. Seems to help. I also highly suggest afterburners. They give you the boost you need to escape and let your shields recharge, which they will quickly. Some details can be ignored

Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 762	Posted - 2015.05.25 02:37:00 - [11] - Quote Learn to fly first. Gal DS is easier than Cal DS to learn in because the Cal DS is so maneuverable it will sling you around and easily slam you into things like the ground. Learn in a standard DS, not a militia. They are easier to fly becasue CCP made them easier with a different flight mechanic that evens the ship out automatically. Learn evasive maneuvering. Learn to fly in a way that increases your ability to pick up speed fast and to present a moving target. Namely, never go directly forward or backward. Always yaw then roll and thrust to the side and swing around or serpintine from point to point. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 02:57:00 - [12] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: They aren't designed to take concentrated fire for too long Actually quite contradictory to what their in game blurb talks about. A dropship is supposed to be abnke to come in, drop off troops,support them and then leave; or inversely to come in and support, pick up troops and then leave. Currently, it's get hit and immediately leave or die, abandoning your ground troops to their fate because if they get in then they're definitely dead, whereas they might be able to fight their way out on the ground! Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Nachos Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros 167	Posted - 2015.05.25 04:20:00 - [13] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Nachos wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Nachos wrote: don't fly dropships as a newbro. They are hard to learn how to fly, expensive if you want to kill things with them and the AV weaponry right now (swarms) are OP. Skill into tanks if you want to be a KD *** dropships are a no-no for new-bro** I wouldn't say AV is OP. It's just the fact we've got Proto AV balanced for Proto tanks but only standard dropships and LAV's. Swarms are overpowering vs Dropships. No they aren't. I have gotten a dropship through an entire match with AV shooting at me when in range, others have too. They aren't designed to take concentrated fire for too long, they are dropships, not gunships. lol if you are one of those pilots that come closer than 200m to infantry every 5 minutes xavier zor xavier zor
jordy mack WarRavens 483	Posted - 2015.05.25 04:45:00 - [14] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I don't see why players might think myrons are any harder to use than grimsnes... grimsnesi? They just handle slightly differently. I have whatever the vehicle shield recharge delay skill is maxed out. Seems to help. I also highly suggest afterburners. They give you the boost you need to escape and let your shields recharge, which they will quickly. it's obvious but i'll explain it for the new/slow ppl. it is harder coz by the time u activate ur hardners, your main hp tank is gone. as opposed to armor ds having a shield buffer and being able to rep while taking damage. Less QQ more PewPew
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 05:35:00 - [15] - Quote Don't be aggressive. With a Myron make sure you get in, get out. If you are dropping people off, do so and get out of there etc. Especially if there is AV. Here's how I fit mine Complex light Extender Complex Booster Complex Scanner MCRU Basic Repairer CPU Proto Missile left side, proto rail right side. Pretty versatile fit, and survivable enough to get out of most situations. !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
jordy mack WarRavens 485	Posted - 2015.05.25 11:55:00 - [16] - Quote also remember that shield boosters can be interupted, so if ur using one make sure ur clear of all incoming damage before using it. ppl have posted a few interesting fits here. i personally like 2x hardners (extra tanky or always ready) but it's personal preference and playstyle for the most part. one last thing i will tell you is that you will most likley need to lvl up (the skill that reduces shield mods cpu usage, cant remember the name) to 3ish to be able to fit alot of decent mods. but the good news is this will allow u to build decent tanks too. but seriously go armor first. Less QQ more PewPew
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.25 12:19:00 - [17] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Myron is amazing. Works very well with 2 missile gunners. 2 x heavy basic shield extenders 1 x Basic Shield Hardener 1 x basic scanner Complex PG upgrade Complex CpU Upgrade 2 x MT-1 Missile Launchers Pvt Numnutz wrote: Don't hit things, collision damage for shield dropships is quite ridiculous. Armor dropships can survive hitting many things, a shield dropship will be lucky to survive a graze. Shield regen is fast but can be delayed by damage unlike their armor counter parts, running when hit is very important, fit an afterburner. Don't worry about fitting armor in your lows, as a rule with shield vehicles you need shields to survive and you need extra fitting mods in the lows to get those shields. Don't overstay your welcome. Try to always be a moving target and have some altitude to trade for speed. Don't be surised when invisible av starts hitting you from everywhere. Try and learn. Dropships are always more fun with friends, bring some along. Good luck, fly safe o7 Best fitting advice and flying advice. The only thing I can add is try to use a myron as a support gunship. As in, activate hardner, get in range for your gunner, and be ready to pull out the second your hardeners are on cooldown. Shields are planty viable vs swarms, just dont expect alot of WP or try to dance your way out of trouble. Also, regular dropships are best used on medium to large maps, your myron doesnt have the maneuvarability to dodge redline installations the way a python can. Once you understand the range of those installations on each map, you'll understand which parts of the map you should or shouldn't fly in. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.


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