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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:33:00 -
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Gåæ
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:33:00 -
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Sure, where's my 2.5 mil?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
New Eden's Heros
2
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:34:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sure, where's my 2.5 mil?
You dont get it.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:39:00 -
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New player with 3 million sp?
Hell nooo
Five million sp
Repeat start New player with 5 million sp |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:42:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sure, where's my 2.5 mil? You dont get it.
I perfectly understand I'd just like to get 2.5 for free :D
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
168
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:44:00 -
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I would propose that instead of starting off with 3 mill that those points would go towards predefined areas such as the RR for Caldari, ScR for Amarr, AR for Gal, and CR for Min those skills to lvl 3
shield skills for cal
armor skills for gal and amarr
and a mix of the two for min
leave enough sp to skill into a suit to adv lvl but make it mandatory to spend on a drop suit
the rest can be allocated as you wish |
Vicious Minotaur
2
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:46:00 -
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Nope.
What next? Subsidized proto gear? Officer suit handouts? Marrying your dog?!
Think ahead, to what lies down that slippery slope! You don't want your daughter marrying one of those... dogs, do you?
I am a minotaur.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:03:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Nope.
What next? Subsidized proto gear? Officer suit handouts? Marrying your dog?!
Think ahead, to what lies down that slippery slope! You don't want your daughter marrying one of those... dogs, do you?
What next if no fixes?
Trending to barely 2400 tops weekend and 1800 tops weekdays
#dealwithit |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:10:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Nope.
What next? Subsidized proto gear? Officer suit handouts? Marrying your dog?!
Think ahead, to what lies down that slippery slope! You don't want your daughter marrying one of those... dogs, do you? What next if no fixes? Trending to barely 2400 tops weekend and 1800 tops weekdays #dealwithit
Nothing can be done at this point to significantly increase player count. That ship has sailed.
#dealtwith
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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GeorgeN76
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:27:00 -
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The starter skill points really do need to be upped. I have a low skillpoint Caldari alt and its just sad!
Scouts and Swarms
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sir RAVEN WING
3
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:39:00 -
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If so.
I am getting a new account.
Transfer ISK
Boom Proto
Boom More
Boom Stomping
Boom the newberries are making vets quit
Boom newberries quit
Boom DUST just died.
So no.
"Are you crushing them?" - Delt
"Yeah." - Medicure
"You're doing God's work son." - Delt
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VAHZZ
2
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:43:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:If so.
I am getting a new account.
Transfer ISK
Boom Proto
Boom More
Boom Stomping
Boom the newberries are making vets quit
Boom newberries quit
Boom DUST just died.
So no.
King of trolls.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:48:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I would propose that instead of starting off with 3 mill that those points would go towards predefined areas such as the RR for Caldari, ScR for Amarr, AR for Gal, and CR for Min those skills to lvl 3
shield skills for cal
armor skills for gal and amarr
and a mix of the two for min
leave enough sp to skill into a suit to adv lvl but make it mandatory to spend on a drop suit
the rest can be allocated as you wish
This would be good if they opened up the npe to explain what any of that shxt means before you roll a character. Explaining playstyles, combat philos, and technological background would make it plenty easy for new players to decide where they want to stand on the field. MMOs usually draw on the 3 pillar system (tank, dps, healer) so players have a clear understanding of where they are when they set out..although DUST is a tad more flexible in playstyles, there should still be a base level for players to draw from.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Dementia Maniaclease
30
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:49:00 -
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More sp to start with?!
Madness!
That would just make too much sense!
I propose though that if this idea is to be implemented
1 there are "missions" you must complete, similar to eve.. (wait before you go nuts over this not being eve)
2 every other mission is "now spend these skill points in (x)"
(X) being either a weopon, dropsuit, CORE SKILLS.. or whatever
3 YOU DON'T GET TO LEAVE THE BATTLE ACADEMY UNTIL YOU HAVE AT LEAST 3 MILION SP IF NOT 5
I believe something as simple as this would encourage new players, and will retain them
Because them proto players won't chew through them (nearly) as quickly
Beware the mighty chinchillasaurus rex!
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
980
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Posted - 2015.05.20 01:50:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I would propose that instead of starting off with 3 mill that those points would go towards predefined areas such as the RR for Caldari, ScR for Amarr, AR for Gal, and CR for Min those skills to lvl 3
shield skills for cal
armor skills for gal and amarr
and a mix of the two for min
I'd like something along these lines.
Level 1 in each of the selected race's weapons, as weapons are relatively cheap to skill up
Level 3 in main tank and related mods (I'd do 3 Armor Upgrades, 3 Shield Upgrades, 3 Biotic Upgrades for Minmatar), to point people towards the style of a given race
Level 3 in each of their basic frames (or have each bloodline unlock just one or two to Level 3 by default - Med/Light, Med/Heavy, Light/Heavy), as the almost 300k per class one has to dump into the unbonused suits to unlock roles is extremely inefficient, especially for low SP chars
Most people *expect* things like race and/or bloodline to make a difference in games where they're selectable, even if they're unfamiliar with the game world. Dust is kinda "Hey, here's a metric ****ton of stuff and two metric ****tons of numbers, hope you don't screw up!" Racially preallocated starting SP would not limit what a character could become as it grows, but would definitely help add a little direction, survivability and, frankly, playability out of the gate.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 03:00:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:I would propose that instead of starting off with 3 mill that those points would go towards predefined areas such as the RR for Caldari, ScR for Amarr, AR for Gal, and CR for Min those skills to lvl 3
shield skills for cal
armor skills for gal and amarr
and a mix of the two for min I'd like something along these lines. Level 1 in each of the selected race's weapons, as weapons are relatively cheap to skill up Level 3 in main tank and related mods (I'd do 3 Armor Upgrades, 3 Shield Upgrades, 3 Biotic Upgrades for Minmatar), to point people towards the style of a given race Level 3 in each of their basic frames (or have each bloodline unlock just one or two to Level 3 by default - Med/Light, Med/Heavy, Light/Heavy), as the almost 300k per class one has to dump into the unbonused suits to unlock roles is extremely inefficient, especially for low SP chars Most people *expect* things like race and/or bloodline to make a difference in games where they're selectable, even if they're unfamiliar with the game world. Dust is kinda "Hey, here's a metric ****ton of stuff and two metric ****tons of numbers, hope you don't screw up!" Racially preallocated starting SP would not limit what a character could become as it grows, but would definitely help add a little direction, survivability and, frankly, playability out of the gate.
Again leaning toward this games NPE not explaining jack shxt. When most of us joined there were 4 suits, 5 guns, and 3 vehicles lol. Not much to worry about there but now theres quite a bit more and no real way to explain them to newbros besIdes trial and expensive error. This needs to be fixed and then maybe it would be good to go.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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captainIreland
Mcalpines Fusiliers
Covert Intervention
36
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Posted - 2015.05.20 03:11:00 -
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Start player's of by making them pick a gun of there choice' that come with maxed proficiency and 500k sp to spec in a suit
I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.
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Dementia Maniaclease
30
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Posted - 2015.05.20 03:17:00 -
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I still swear by missions
Example
Place uplink (s) near the waypoint to support your team
Or
Kill the enemy hacking your objective
And reward those actions with the sp
I do like the idea of tying in the bloodlines though for some base allocated skills
That has always annoyed me that is does nothing!
Not even cosmetic differences!
Beware the mighty chinchillasaurus rex!
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.05.20 03:29:00 -
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Give all new players a first tier suit of their choosing with all avail modules etc on that suit opened to level 1. Once they pick that's it , suits picked. Then it promps the player to put the modules etc on on that suit. Only new character crations can get this.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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