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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.15 12:55:00 -
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I think CCP is considering to normalize nades tier progression. Good to hear.
Now to the point. Before trying to reduce its dmg (some players demand), take in mind that core locus is actually a good counter for killing players under reps.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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jordy mack
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.05.15 13:58:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I think CCP is considering to normalize nades tier progression. Good to hear.
Now to the point. Before trying to reduce its dmg (some players demand), take in mind that core locus is actually a good counter for killing players under 1000hp.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 14:07:00 -
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That be cool. Im just that bad at cooking and since the nade damage outweighs my scouts health.... fluxes for me!
Though i do like using fused nade from time to time. As a scout i just dont like anything that kills me not that it requires a nerf i know that i screwed up.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:16:00 -
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We could end up with STD grenades that do the same damage as Cores, but with a smaller radius. A Nerf to Core Locus might turn out to be a MLT and STD buff.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2055
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:20:00 -
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In other words.. which is more irritating gameplay.. a group of upto 1000 ehp suits running in a gang with reps??
Or Core Locus making those groups regret having to hold each others hand??
Cores are annoying, just check the hatemails I send manboar..
But imo, mercs running in a bunch saying this is teamwork is worse..
So once Cores are nerfed.. expect more murder packs coming to a pub near you soon 
Te Sbundo'd
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:35:00 -
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I don't think they should be nerfed. If anything, the standard and advanced versions need a buff to 400 and 500.
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:49:00 -
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Core nades need a nerf... and standar - adv nades need a buff... If I trigger a nade of my BPO - Shaman logi.... and don't throw it... only take me the Shield and 50 of armor damage... In a real world... if you trigger a nade and keep it in your hand... you are a dead men.
Core nades kill you even eight meters away with the blast....
Most of the people who defend the core-nades are players who get easy "cheapest" kills with the nades.
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.05.15 16:02:00 -
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Nerf my core locus you say?
Well...here is what I have to say...
**** YO COUCH (pâÄ+Æt¢è+ô)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö-¦)n+ën+¦n++ Gö+GöüGö+
(pâÄ+Æt¢è+ô)pâÄ **** YO COUCH!!!
"I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter."
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1501
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:06:00 -
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Its only the blast radius that annoys me. Same radius as an Assault MD round, with 5x the damage..
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
RUST415
3294
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:09:00 -
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Radius could use a small nerf. It shouldn't be the size of a flux grenade.
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Patt MaCrotch
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:00:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:
"Most of the people who defend the core-nades are players who get easy "cheapest" kills with the nades."
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:05:00 -
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Patt MaCrotch wrote:Aidualc wrote:
"Most of the people who defend the core-nades are players who get easy "cheapest" kills with the nades."
This...... is a very true statement.
Nades aren't easy cheap kills. They are fun and semi-easy kills.
You will never nerf my nades!
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.05.15 20:59:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:
Most of the people who defend the core-nades are players who get easy "cheapest" kills with the nades.
Most of the people who complain about the core nade are just plain **** at dust and probably would get killed by a STD locus nade anyway.
Core nade DMG and radius are fine, just needs to not be restocked by hives. |
Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.15 21:00:00 -
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There's a few fallacies in the logic here.
a) Repairers generally have a very long range when compared to the blast radius of a grenade. My Lai Dai Flux Repair tool can repair at 20m+
b) Generally speaking, the only thing being repped mid-combat are Sentinels which have splash damage reduction. A grenade isn't exactly the optimal choice for trying to break it's tank, let alone while it's being repped.
c) Generally speaking, Core Locus Grenades are used for quick/easy kills of lighter targets as a whole and a 'cop out' of a losing battle.
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huopiang
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.15 22:29:00 -
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They are fine. The nanohive feeded spam is the problem
Make them available from resupply only once |
Knightshade Belladonna
Kentucky Fried Clones
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Posted - 2015.05.15 23:02:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:In other words.. which is more irritating gameplay.. a group of upto 1000 ehp suits running in a gang with reps?? Or Core Locus making those groups regret having to hold each others hand?? Cores are annoying, just check the hatemails I send manboar.. But imo, mercs running in a bunch saying this is teamwork is worse.. So once Cores are nerfed.. expect more murder packs coming to a pub near you soon
because these proto modded( complex dmg mods) mass driver wielders could never stop that , nah , not that .
The core locus nade is abused like a mofo , admit it, and take the nerf when it comes.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.05.16 00:17:00 -
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My issue with cores isn't so much its damage, as its blast radius. I don't see why each variant not only gets a great damage boost in -addition- to an increase in its blast size?
While every other weapon in the game only gets a damage difference of %10 between the basic and proto variants, the core gets a %100 increase to its damage as well as an additional %20 range. Bring them all to the same size at 6m and I'd be a happy camper.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.05.16 00:18:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:In other words.. which is more irritating gameplay.. a group of upto 1000 ehp suits running in a gang with reps?? Or Core Locus making those groups regret having to hold each others hand?? Cores are annoying, just check the hatemails I send manboar.. But imo, mercs running in a bunch saying this is teamwork is worse.. So once Cores are nerfed.. expect more murder packs coming to a pub near you soon
so one solo person running core nades is the counter to a protostomp? right...
no that doesnt sound op at all.
also i cant see ur sent mails for some reason. can u resend me ur psn id and password.
this has to be a troll right?
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.16 02:09:00 -
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I run flux nades on 90% of my fits.. So a nerf to Cores is not going to bother me
What will.. is one less counter to a group camping an area (depending how they change)
So if I had to choose, I'd pick Core spam over Camper spam easily..
Grenades should always be lethal.
One person w/Nades > Squad of campers hiding in CQ
To bunch up, then complain about being countered is total bullcrap
Te Sbundo'd
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1401
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Posted - 2015.05.16 02:14:00 -
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Core locus ain't OP its just the only effective grenade.
I want to actually fear a grenade at my feet like the old days instead of stepping over it cause all hades but proto won't kill me.
I say un-nerf the nades.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2012
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:22:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:We could end up with STD grenades that do the same damage as Cores, but with a smaller radius. A Nerf to Core Locus might turn out to be a MLT and STD buff.
Larger radius means larger effective damage.
Remember that.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.16 06:25:00 -
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all they need is to take off the cooking time. you pull ' throw 'done. meant to flush ppl out of cover . u stay you get hurt . no more head shot bonuses for cores... lets push for this instead of changes damages.hell even battle field took away cooking and its 10 times the game dust will ever be . |
Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.05.16 09:12:00 -
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So... people complaining about the only grenade being effective and actually a grenade being... a grenade. Go figure
How many M8, M1, MLT, and STD grenade kills do you see?
Choices at the moment: Flux, Locus, and AV
Only 3 choices for one slot. Fluxes are good all across the board, AV it depends, but all locuses are crap except for the core. Why use any other kind of locus if a MLT flux does more damage even to armor based suits.
If cores are nerfed then there is literally no point in using a locus, instead use a flux because not only does the hit detection work more than 50% of the time, it kills 100% of shields while the other frags do not many times.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.16 14:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:There's a few fallacies in the logic here.
a) Repairers generally have a very long range when compared to the blast radius of a grenade. My Lai Dai Flux Repair tool can repair at 20m+
b) Generally speaking, the only thing being repped mid-combat are Sentinels which have splash damage reduction. A grenade isn't exactly the optimal choice for trying to break it's tank, let alone while it's being repped.
c) Generally speaking, Core Locus Grenades are used for quick/easy kills of lighter targets as a whole and a 'cop out' of a losing battle.
a) long range repairer isn't very popular. They're not such a problem as other cuz their repair rate isn't as high,
b) not only sentinels are under reps. Assaults are also commonly used for this. One Core locus can kill an assault under reps or leave him with enough low hp pool to finish him off. Sentinels under reps can be countered by Core locus. How? By killing the logi behind him. And you can only do this via nade,
c) it is used for cheap kills but it's also used to shatter camping groups, counter repping target etc.
As some said before. Dmg should stay, thier blast radious should be reworked in one of these ways :
- simply reduce ther blast radius
- give them multi leveled blast radius damage.
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thecreaturehub fan
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.16 16:34:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:TheD1CK wrote:In other words.. which is more irritating gameplay.. a group of upto 1000 ehp suits running in a gang with reps?? Or Core Locus making those groups regret having to hold each others hand?? Cores are annoying, just check the hatemails I send manboar.. But imo, mercs running in a bunch saying this is teamwork is worse.. So once Cores are nerfed.. expect more murder packs coming to a pub near you soon so one solo person running core nades is the counter to a protostomp? right... no that doesnt sound op at all. also i cant see ur sent mails for some reason. can u resend me ur psn id and password. this has to be a troll right?
Funny its the exactly opposite logic of anti-AV, it should take a team to kill a single tank, but a single guy with a nade should be able to take out a proto squad. 
I suppose the argument looks valid if your defending your crutch.
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MassiveNine
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
904
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Posted - 2015.05.16 16:35:00 -
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huopiang wrote:They are fine. The nanohive feeded spam is the problem
Make them available from resupply only once
Figures the best idea in this thread would be skimmed over. But I'd like to take it one step further and say that grenades should only be refilled from a supply depot, and only once as well. It would fix nearly all of the grenade spam we have.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.16 18:42:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Core locus ain't OP its just the only effective grenade.
I want to actually fear a grenade at my feet like the old days instead of stepping over it cause all hades but proto won't kill me.
I say un-nerf the nades.
Preach. That's why I keep saying that the std and adv need buff. The ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LETHAL but they aren't.
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Twitter- @48SOF
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1404
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Posted - 2015.05.16 18:46:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Core locus ain't OP its just the only effective grenade.
I want to actually fear a grenade at my feet like the old days instead of stepping over it cause all hades but proto won't kill me.
I say un-nerf the nades. Preach. That's why I keep saying that the std and adv need buff. The ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LETHAL but they aren't.
lol yea.
ex.1 - ADV nade
cook perfectly, toss at scouts face. barely damage shields.
ex.2 - PRO nade
cook perfectly, toss at assaults face, destroyed along with equipment and another guy.
This isn't the Core made being OP, but the M1 being crap.
(both real examples BTW)
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Open Beta Vet - 43 mil sp
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2765
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Posted - 2015.05.16 18:52:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:huopiang wrote:They are fine. The nanohive feeded spam is the problem
Make them available from resupply only once Figures the best idea in this thread would be skimmed over. But I'd like to take it one step further and say that grenades should only be refilled from a supply depot, and only once as well. It would fix nearly all of the grenade spam we have.
I agree. With this one change a significant chunk of the core nade complaints would be addressed.
After that, a radius reduction(prolly normalization between tiers) for cores so that it's not flux-like, leave damage where it is.
Those two changes might be enough, imo.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1471
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Posted - 2015.05.16 18:56:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Nerf my core locus you say?
Well...here is what I have to say...
**** YO COUCH (pâÄ+Æt¢è+ô)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö-¦)n+ën+¦n++ Gö+GöüGö+
(pâÄ+Æt¢è+ô)pâÄ **** YO COUCH!!!
Whoa, calm down Rick James, go snort some *******.
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