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          Bright Cloud 
          Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 18:34:00 -
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          Fitting modules, espacially fitting modules which became broken as hell with the latest hotfix. If you have no idea what im talking about then i shall enlighten you: i mean PG+CPU upgrades.
  Now im gonna make a example of a fitting which basically turns the Amarr "Opus" assault into a Advanced A/1 assault with more PG+CPU. Currently the Enhanced PG upgrade gives you a whopping +26PG for 17CPU in exchange (highslot module), then we add a complex CPU module (bugged with no PG drawback) which gives us +35% CPU.
  So with max skills and both modules fitted we have the follwing values: CPU: 344-17= 327 (-17 because of the PG module fitting) PG: 82
  As a reference the Advanced amarr assault has a fitting space of: CPU: 323 PG: 66
  Im not asking here for a nerf of apex suits im here to ask CCP to fix the Enhanced PG upgrade and the Complex CPU module. Ironically the modules in question are all ISK variants while their AUR/LP modules actually have proper values like more CPU required to fit, less PG granted or more PG taken away for more CPU fitted.
 Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?! 
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          Aeon Amadi 
          Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 18:52:00 -
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          Amusingly, the modules are performing the way they should be - it's only broken on APEX suits.
 You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go 
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          Bright Cloud 
          Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 18:57:00 -
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          Aeon Amadi wrote:Amusingly, the modules are performing the way they should be - it's only broken on APEX suits.    Yeah but on the other hand to turn your apex suit into a advanced suit it costs more ISK in terms of modules as it would be to just go ahead and buy a advanced assault from the market.
 Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?! 
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          VAHZZ 
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 18:59:00 -
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          You are making me want an APEX suit, and I'm broke. This thread makes me sad.
 "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter." 
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          Meisterjager Jagermeister 
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 19:10:00 -
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          VAHZZ wrote:You are making me want an APEX suit, and I'm broke. This thread makes me sad.   Hey VAHZZ, you hear that? Shhh, listen closely......yeah that. LP suits are calling your name.
 AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge 
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          VAHZZ 
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 19:14:00 -
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          Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:VAHZZ wrote:You are making me want an APEX suit, and I'm broke. This thread makes me sad.  Hey VAHZZ, you hear that? Shhh, listen closely......yeah that. LP suits are calling your name.  
 
  Give me loyalty points  
 
 
  You know what?
  I'll do it, Serpentis Spartan Assault is calling my naaaaaame.
 
  wait, I'm no assault. DAMMIT JAGER! I'M STILL IN THE SAME POSITION!
 "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter." 
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          Meisterjager Jagermeister 
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 19:15:00 -
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          VAHZZ wrote:Give me loyalty points   You know what? I'll do it, Serpentis Spartan Assault is calling my naaaaaame. wait, I'm no assault. DAMMIT JAGER! I'M STILL IN THE SAME POSITION!  But VAHZZ, one needs not a single point in assaults to use Federation Spartan Assault!
  And Serpentis fits on starter fits just as well.
 AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge 
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          VAHZZ 
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 19:20:00 -
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          Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Give me loyalty points   You know what? I'll do it, Serpentis Spartan Assault is calling my naaaaaame. wait, I'm no assault. DAMMIT JAGER! I'M STILL IN THE SAME POSITION!  But VAHZZ, one needs not a single point in assaults to use Federation Spartan Assault! And Serpentis fits on starter fits just as well.  
 
  Ok you convinced me. Now all I need is a Serpentis PC corp....
 "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter." 
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          Summa Militum 
          TotalAscendancy
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 19:36:00 -
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          To me what makes the Apex suits overpowered now is the fact that you can fit Prototype gear to it; Advanced gear should be the cut off. 
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          Ahkhomi Cypher 
          Opus Arcana
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 20:20:00 -
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          i <3 my APEX suits
 No Skill Required 
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          Adipem Nothi 
          Nos Nothi
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 20:23:00 -
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          Aeon Amadi wrote:Amusingly, the modules are performing the way they should be - it's only broken on APEX suits.    ^ this
 Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley 
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          MrShooter01 
          Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 21:14:00 -
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          Apex owners think they've cheated the system
  Meanwhile 2x fitting mods take away the slot advantage over advanced suits, cost more isk than an advanced suit, and still end up with less pg/cpu than an advanced suit   | 
      
      
      
          
          Bright Cloud 
          Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2015.05.10 21:25:00 -
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          MrShooter01 wrote:Apex owners think they've cheated the system Meanwhile 2x fitting mods take away the slot advantage over advanced suits, cost more isk than an advanced suit, and still end up with less pg/cpu than an advanced suit     Actually the advanced suit in my example has less PG+CPU then the apex. So there is deffo a advantage in terms of fitting espacially on PG.
 Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?! 
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