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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:27:00 -
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For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:31:00 -
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Yeah, I really wish the Militia hives were buffed. Only carry one? WTF? |
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:35:00 -
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hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all.
ummm NO.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:53:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times.
Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:18:00 -
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Anyone else irked by the halfway buffed nanohives? State isukone quantums should be above ishukone guaged, come on!
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:30:00 -
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hails8n wrote:Anyone else irked by the halfway buffed nanohives? State isukone quantums should be above ishukone guaged, come on!
As a Caldarian, and my secondary suit being the Logistics ck.0, no. Just no.
It's enough.
ESPECIALLY for the Caldari Logistics. The State Ishukone Quantum Nanohives has 72 clusters, which is double of the other proto hives. It is basically carrying 12 proto hives, not taking into account the Caldari logistics bonus of 25%.
To reiterate: They are good where they're at now.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:37:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:hails8n wrote:Anyone else irked by the halfway buffed nanohives? State isukone quantums should be above ishukone guaged, come on! As a Caldarian, and my secondary suit being the Logistics ck.0, no. Just no. It's enough. ESPECIALLY for the Caldari Logistics. The State Ishukone Quantum Nanohives has 72 clusters, which is double of the other proto hives. It is basically carrying 12 proto hives, not taking into account the Caldari logistics bonus of 25%. To reiterate: They are good where they're at now.
Still, why should they have the same carry amount as adv hives?
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:54:00 -
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hails8n wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:hails8n wrote:Anyone else irked by the halfway buffed nanohives? State isukone quantums should be above ishukone guaged, come on! As a Caldarian, and my secondary suit being the Logistics ck.0, no. Just no. It's enough. ESPECIALLY for the Caldari Logistics. The State Ishukone Quantum Nanohives has 72 clusters, which is double of the other proto hives. It is basically carrying 12 proto hives, not taking into account the Caldari logistics bonus of 25%. To reiterate: They are good where they're at now. Still, why should they have the same carry amount as adv hives?
Because it isn't the amount carried, but the amount of clusters they have.
I'm not online to check, but I believe that the ADV restores 15%, the ADV quantum restores 21%, whereas the PRO variants restore 30% or more -- except for the Allotek which restores 15%.
Any other questions I can help you with? :)
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.07 23:57:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:hails8n wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:hails8n wrote:Anyone else irked by the halfway buffed nanohives? State isukone quantums should be above ishukone guaged, come on! As a Caldarian, and my secondary suit being the Logistics ck.0, no. Just no. It's enough. ESPECIALLY for the Caldari Logistics. The State Ishukone Quantum Nanohives has 72 clusters, which is double of the other proto hives. It is basically carrying 12 proto hives, not taking into account the Caldari logistics bonus of 25%. To reiterate: They are good where they're at now. Still, why should they have the same carry amount as adv hives? Because it isn't the amount carried, but the amount of clusters they have. I'm not online to check, but I believe that the ADV restores 15%, the ADV quantum restores 21%, whereas the PRO variants restore 30% or more -- except for the Allotek which restores 15%. Any other questions I can help you with? :)
I understand , but the dev notes said a 3x carry buff to all hives including proto.
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:02:00 -
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hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount.
It does when there's no ******* reason anyone would ever use that many hives.
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:05:00 -
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That is correct...
Either that was an error on their part, or they did this preemptively due to the probable Core Locus Grenade spam.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:13:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount. It does when there's no ******* reason anyone would ever use that many hives.
Who's to say I wont need 9 nanohives? Maybe you don't, but as a logi I resupply my whole team.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:03:00 -
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Bump
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The Eristic
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:42:00 -
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Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.05.08 07:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount. It does when there's no ******* reason anyone would ever use that many hives.
I would use that many nanohives. |
hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.08 17:28:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount. It does when there's no ******* reason anyone would ever use that many hives. I would use that many nanohives.
Word.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.08 19:16:00 -
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:06:00 -
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.11 07:30:00 -
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Same goes for Remote explosives. The carry amount should be used higher per tier.
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Fluffy Exterminatus
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:59:00 -
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screw tht just make them equal price to other pro gear. 12k instead of 30
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:32:00 -
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Yup. Adv and some proto hives have the same carried amount. That means it's better to run adv hives than some proto hives.
If they wanted to tune down nade spamming then they should set adv hives to 3-4 at max (proto would have 6 ofc).
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:30:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Yup. Adv and some proto hives have the same carried amount. That means it's better to run adv hives than some proto hives.
If they wanted to tune down nade spamming then they should set adv hives to 3-4 at max (proto would have 6 ofc).
Basic should be 3, adv 6, and proto 9.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2015.05.11 18:10:00 -
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hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount.
No, it's is very relevant. As that is the reason why hives were nerfed in the first place.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:hails8n wrote:deezy dabest wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. ummm NO. Explosive spam is already bad enough at certain times. Thats irrelevant. It doesnt make sense for adv and almost all the proto hives to have the same carry amount. No, it's is very relevant. As that is the reason why hives were nerfed in the first place.
Ok so, Nerf core nades, they're overused anyways . Just dont take it out on my rep hives.
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:30:00 -
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I see an incorrect notion that one variant supposed to be better than the other flat out.
I also see an incorrect notion from the developers on the same line of thinking
Both of which needs correcting.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.11 21:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I see an incorrect notion that one variant supposed to be better than the other flat out.
I also see an incorrect notion from the developers on the same line of thinking
Both of which needs correcting.
So what do you propose? When I read it would be a 3x buff I expected a 3x buff not a flat out 6 carried. As for the loyalty variant equipment, they should be flat out better than just isk variants, because theyre an incentive to play FW(the only lore game mode) .Ex. Republic boundless rep tools are flat out better than their isk counterpart, state kallakiota injectors too. Also if you can get adv/pro remotes a +1 carry buff, because 4 carried and 5 deployable doesnt make sense.
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.12 01:11:00 -
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Fluffy Exterminatus wrote:screw tht just make them equal price to other pro gear. 12k instead of 30
That too
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:22:00 -
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Ok compact nanos have been double nerfed, so buff proto hives to 9 now.
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MythTanker
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:28:00 -
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hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all.
Why the **** do you need 9 proto nanohives?
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hails8n
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:36:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:hails8n wrote:For example the state quantum hive is supposed to be better than the ishukone guaged, but it only has 6 carried. Heres the nanohives that require a buff to 9 carried: Wiyrkomi triage, allotek (R), Ishukone nanohive,Ishukone flux, state ishukone, state ishukome quantum, and the militia hives to 3 I guess. Thats all. Why the **** do you need 9 proto nanohives?
Its tier progression. Proto uplinks have a higher carry amount than adv links., same with remotes.
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